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Old Jan 13th, 2009, 03:22 PM
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Malpensa airport to Venice

Our March trip is a go, and I am trying to get a fix on trains. The Trenitalia website is a bit challenging for me.

We arrive at Malpensa around 8. I know there is a train from the "main train station" at 11:35 that gets us into Venice around 2:10. Is there one train station in Milan or two? Can I buy the tickets to Venice at the airport, or do I wait until we get into the Milan train station to do that?

Molto grazie!

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Old Jan 13th, 2009, 03:33 PM
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This should do you -- but try to ignore the nonsense about how difficult the train station is. It's train station. Don't haul your life's belongings to Italy and you'll be fine.

http://www.fodors.com/forums/threads...amp;dirtyBit=1

Have fun in Venice.
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That discussion that Zeppole has become embroiled in and refers here has become a joke. In answer to your questions:

From Malpensa you take the airport bus to the Milano Centrale train station. It takes about an hour.

As you get into the Centrale station you buy a ticket for the next train to Venice, it will come with the mandatory seat reservation (fee included in the ticket price), so you have to take that train and sit in that seat in that carriage number.

In the unlikely event that a train which is about to depart has filled up, there will be another very soon.

You will watch the big overhead board until the track number for your train gets posted (it is the last column to the right, "binario&quot and make your way to that track. On your way to the train, look for the yellow boxes near the platform access where you have to stick your ticket into a slot to timestamp it.

Find your carriage number (the numbers are displayed near each end of the carriage, either in a display window and/or with a magnetic plaque near the door) and get on, look for your seat number, and settle in.

Slide your bags into the space between the slanted seatbacks, or onto a rack at the end of the carriage (keep an eye on them when the train stops so nobody helps themselves on their way out) or place them in an overhead rack.

The correct phrase is molte grazie - molte is the plural, as in "many" thanks - molto is singular as in molto bene - very good, really "much" good), or you can say Tante Grazie.

Molte is pronounced Mol-tay where the -tay is short.

Enjoy your trip.
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Old Jan 13th, 2009, 05:38 PM
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There are multiple train stations in Milan, but Venice trains depart from Milano Centrale. Your final destination for Venice is Venezia SL (Santa Lucia).

You could buy your train ticket at Malpensa but you might like to wait until you get to Milano Centrale, just in case there is some unforeseen traffic jam for the bus.
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Old Jan 13th, 2009, 06:44 PM
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Ellenem - where in the Malpensa airport do you buy the FS train tickets like those for Milano Centrale to Venezia S.L. ?
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Old Jan 13th, 2009, 07:13 PM
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Thank you all, gentle folk, for specifics on trains as well as Italian lessons!

E.
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<i><font color=blue>&quot;as well as Italian lessons&quot;</font></i>

Now that's a funny joke.
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Don't worry, ebcutter, it's very easy, and you may even be able to catch a much earlier train, so don't waste time buying train tickets at the airport.

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Old Jan 17th, 2009, 02:48 PM
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ebcutler

As an FYI, you want to take the coach bus from MXP airport to the city center of Milan.

http://www.malpensashuttle.it/e-default.htm

You do NOT want to take the train (Malpensa Express) from the airport into Milan as it goes to Cadorna Nord station and not Milano Centrale. Okay, it is do-able, but then you'd have to take subway or a taxi from Cadorna to Centrale ..... it's direct &amp; easy to take the bus as it drops you off directly in front of Milano Centrale. I wouldn't bother purchasing your train ticket until you get to the station.

And one last thing, there are 2 train stops in Venice. &quot;Mestre&quot; is on the mainland, and &quot;Santa Lucia&quot; is on the island of Venice. I'm assuming that's your destination?
http://europeforvisitors.com/venice/...ad-station.htm
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Old Jan 17th, 2009, 03:06 PM
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loves2sing, I'm sure they do both give very good advice. Certainly the comments of Zeppole I've read on various threads have been interesting and useful.

I appreciate your *calming* words.

Ellen
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Thanks, MademoiselleFifi, I hear you. I'm saving all these good instructions so the trip from airport to train station and then back again should be no problem. I'm much reassured that I DON'T need to buy tickets in advance or somewhere other than the train station.

Ellen
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Old Jan 17th, 2009, 03:17 PM
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How ironic, Tess-Durberville, that I had just finished watching the most recent BBC production of &quot;Tess of the d'Urbervilles&quot; when I saw your message!

Yes, thanks, we're headed to Sta Lucia. And I *finally* grasp the importance of taking the shuttle!
I studied a map of Milan, too, to see exactly what you all were telling me.

I appreciate the help!

Ellen
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I am going to defend NYCTS on this one (not that she needs my defense). But she was very helpful to me in what started this whole Milan station debate. She was not rude or trying to impress me with her knowledge. She just gave me her impression. And yes, sometimes people do travel with lots of luggage. I know I would if I were staying 6 months, even with laundry service.

Sorry Zeppole, even though much of your advice is helpful, you did get a little defensive over a train station. It's just a train station! And NYCTS was just trying to help me with the logistics should I maybe have luggage to deal with. She didn't feel a need to berate me if I did either.

Ellen, you might have wanted to read the whole thing before asking anyone to concede to anything. To me it was you who should have apologized for responding to a conversation that you apparently knew little about.

Anyway, lets all play nice, okay? For goodness sake, we are all here to plan vacations! We want answers to our questions, not judgments on our style of travel. I am so tired of the &quot;oh my, why would you ever want to go there&quot;, or &quot;why would you need so many shoes&quot;, or &quot;why must you spend an hour getting ready every morning&quot; kind of responses.
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Old Jan 18th, 2009, 10:21 AM
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I'm amazed that Europe is so behind in handicap access, but then I don't really use trains in the US so maybe we aren't as up-to-date as I would assume. It's very difficult in many stations where you still need to navigate stairs with luggage. Is it so impossible to install an elevator or escalator?

ebcutler - What problem are you having with Trenitalia? If you enter Milan Centrale to Venice Santa Lucia and enter a date within the next 7 days (preferrably the day of the week you will be traveling) you will be able to get schedules and pricing.
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Old Jan 18th, 2009, 10:34 AM
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kybourbon,

Italy spends on fortune on preserving cultural monuments. Really a fortune. Of course it would like to install more escalators in the thousands of train stations that are now more than one hundred years old, but it can't afford to.

loves,

there comes a point in which using Fodor's as a literary outlet for one's long dramatic narratives gets misleading to people inquiring about getting from a to b. Milano Central not only isn't a difficult station, it's a very good one for changing trains. And it is no bigger (a city square block) than most urban train stations in the world.

As for sticking up for its architecture, millions and millions of foreign tourists pass through Milano Centrale and never look up, and even if they do, they don't know what they are looking at as they hurry to tick off their 10 Best Sites checklist or buy more shoes. The station might be the most successful piece of Mussolini-Fascist era architecture left standing in Italy. Of course if you are determined to drag 100 pounds of luggage through it.
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loves2sing, I do appreciate your defense of NYCTS. I did not understand that this *conversation&quot; with Zeppole had a history on another thread, and I perceived, perhaps mistakenly. a couple of comments as being aimed in a rather snide way toward me, personally, as I had begun this particular thread.

I agree that everyone really ought to play nice. I think we all could use more care in how we respond, particularly if we are offering a disagreement or differing point of view.

I may be enough of a newbie to Fodors to hear a negative tone, given the nature of postings, where none may be intended.

I do think, however, that arguments that really get away from the thread might better be taken off line, as they are in a number of lists I belong to, or relocated to a new thread where everyone can weigh enthusiastically on the qualities of a particular train station or the amount of luggage one *really needs* to carry or whatever.

I do apologize to all.

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Hey, kybourbon, I just couldn't seem to make it give up information and schedules. Since then I've gone in through links provided from you kind folk, and gotten times from Milan Centrale to Venezia Sta Lucia, which I needed.

Most of all, I really needed what several individuals offered: specific guidance on taking the shuttle from Malpensa to MC and related suggestions.

I'm kinda visual and it now I have a better *picture* of how it all works.

Thanks, Ellen
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Hi, Zeppole, Yep, I'm a need the basic facts kind of person. And, no, I tend to pack carefully and bring as little luggage that my vanity will let me get away with.

My memory, certainly rather faded at this point, is that MC is a dramatic piece of architecture and a large train station rather like another other large train station.

Way back in 1973, I spent a semester in England and took my first trip to Italy. One of my art history profs offered us all kinds of fascinating contemporary stuff, and one thing was a short film on the train station itself. It was a kind of early post-modern thing that emphasized scale and fascist qualities, but it was great fun to watch.

Thanks for all your help. Ellen
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