ChevyChasen

i need a room for two with breakfast.

in general, in europe, when there are prices quoted as
single 70€,
double bed 90€,
rates incl breakfast

would you expect that the price means a room for two, and two people get breakfast.

have you ever came across a different interpretation? i.e. that that woudl be €90 per person, or a room with a bed for two but breakfast for one?

i know for a definative answer i should contact each hotel, but i am trying to shortlist through a number of hotels quickly and email the finalists only.thanks

Kate

Prices normally state whether they are per room or per person. If the price is per room, then a double room would provide for 2 people and 2 breakfasts, whilst obviously a single room would provide for just one.

francophile03

The rates should be for two people if it's a double. Usually a single would be for one person only. Sometimes the hotel will lower the rate for a double if you tell them it's for one person only (i.e. double room for single use). Breakfast included would include all the guests that are in the room unless specified differently.

Travelnut

In France, if you see the term "breakfast offered" that means it is included in the room rate (not a separate charge).

Generally speaking, my experience has been that France charges for breakfast separately, and Germany, Netherlands, Switzerland and Italy include it in the room rate. (there are always exceptions of course).

rex

My experience has been equally often that the price of breakfast in included in the stated room charge in France.

My experience (admittedly limited) with Ireland is that room prices are often stated as "per person" - - and they word it in an unequivocal way. The Jurys hotel chain is an exception, and they make a marketing statement out of quoting their room rates as "per room, not per person".

Best wishes,

Rex

Christina

If the price is quoted for a double and it says it includes breakfast, it would have to be for two people.

Contrary to Rex, I have never been in a hotel in France that included the breakfast in the room rate in 20 years -- by included, I mean you got no room deduction if you said you didn't want it and that it really could not be itemized separately. I've never seen the term "breakfast offered" that Travelnut mentions, either, but if I did, I would presume the opposite -- if it is "offered" that would mean you would pay for it outside the rate quoted. If it were really included, the term would say something about included.

Christina

I did not mean to say I don't think what Travelnut says is true or her (?) experience, just that I've never seen that phrase on a room quote in France, and the terminology is not what I would expect it to mean.

Travelnut

I think I've seen the "offered" term on France-hotel-guide.com, which usually lists the breakfast cost separately, but when I saw "offered" there was no separate price shown. (or maybe it was Parishotels.com... or who knows, maybe it was a specific hotel!) Evidently, it isn't a common thing.

francophile03

To me if a breakfast is 'offered' it appears to be free. But I am sure the breakfast cost is figured into the room rate as some hotels make note that the breakfast can't be deducted even if it's not taken.

Travelnut

Here are some examples of what I saw:

http://www.france-hotel-guide.com/h75006univers2.htm

http://www.france-hotel-guide.com/h75016murat2.htm

rex

<<Contrary to Rex, I have never been in a hotel in France that included the breakfast in the room rate in 20 years -- by included, I mean you got no room deduction if you said you didn't want it and that it really could not be itemized separately.>>

<<But I am sure the breakfast cost is figured into the room rate as some hotels make note that the breakfast can't be deducted even if it's not taken.>>

Hmmm... well my experience matches that of francophile03, not yours, Christina...

On the second item...

<<I've never seen the term "breakfast offered" that Travelnut mentions, either, but if I did, I would presume the opposite -- if it is "offered" that would mean you would pay for it outside the rate quoted. If it were really included, the term would say something about included.>>

and by contrast...

<<To me if a breakfast is 'offered' it appears to be free.>>

While I agree that the term is not that I can recall encountering (or certainly not frequently), my interpretation would match the latter, not the former.

Travelnut cites the URL for these two hotels on "france-hotel-guide" - - and the phraseology "Offert / offered" is clearly what they say. I took a look on tripadvisor.com for both, and used their "quick quote" - - on venere, on expedia and on hotels.com they quote (varying) rates - - and everyone says "breakfast included". Period. (One says "full breakfast&quot.

Back to what ChevyChasen originally asked, I interpret "it" ("rates incl breakfast&quot to mean that the rate includes breakfast for two guests staying in one room with one double bed.

RufusTFirefly

I've never seen the term "double bed" used as a main room description. I've seen "double room" or "double" then perhaps an explanation "double bed" (as opposed to twin beds).

I would have to see the actual listing to be sure--maybe "double bed" refers to single used as a double. Though I've never seen single as a double referred to this way either.

But the rates incl breakfast is very clear--however many people you pay for in your room will get breakfast included in the price.

sheila

I have to say that in the UK, the price is usually per person, with some of the cheapis and chains marketing to the contrary. ALWAYS check in the UK