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Old Jul 5th, 2003, 05:06 AM
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BEACHES TURKS AND CAICOS

I HAVE TRAVELLED ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND HAVE NEVER BEEN AS PUT OFF BY A "SO CALLED
RESORT AS THIS"
BEACHES AND SANDALS IS AN EXPENSIVE RESORT
OWNED BY A MAN THAT HAS SO MUCH MONEY THAT HE CANNOT BE TOUCHED.
THS SO CALLED RESORT IS A UNBELIEVEABLE SHAM.
AFTER STAYING THERE A WEEK WITH A COLLEAGUE OF MINE OUR CONCLUSION WAS THAT THE ATMOSPHERE WAS AS FOLLOWS: FIRST TWO DAYS
WERE LIKE ADULT CAMP (FOLLOW ALL THEIR RULES
OR BE PENALIZED) 2ND TWO DAYS WERE LIKE "BOOT
CASMP" MORE RULES, WITH AN OBSESSION BY THE STAFF TO PENALIZE WHEN YOU CAN'T FOLLOW THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW. OUR LAST TWO DAYS WERE LIKE PRISON CAMP.
THIS IS NOT SOUR GRAPES. MY COLLEAGUE AND I ARE VERY EXPERIENCED SCUBA DIVERS, ADVANTANCED, AND SAFETY CERTS. WE WERE FORCED TO GO THRU THE BASIC SKILLS THAT YOU LEARN IN A RESORT COURSE BEFORE WE COULD DIVE. I WOULD APPLAUD THEIR SAFETY IF THERE WAS NOT AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE BEHIND. IF YOU DO NOT DEMONSTRATE YOUR SKILLS TO THEIR SATISFACTION YOU ARE FORCED TO TAKE A REFRESHER COURSE AT A CHARGE OF 150.00 U.S.
PERSON.
WHILE MY COLLEAGUE AND I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THESE BASIC SKILLS OTHER PEOPLE WERE PUT OFF AND DID NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE "ALL INCLUSIVE DIVING".
THE CAPTAIN OF THEIR BOAT ACTS LIKE A DRILL
SERGEANT. WE WERE FORCED TO TAKE OUR RUBBER SOLED SANDALS OFF AND BOARD A DIVE BOAT IN BARE FEET SO WE WOULD NOT "DIRTY THE DECK"
NOTHING LIKE SLIPPING ON A WET BOAT DECK TO ENHANCE YOUR VACATION. WE WERE ASSIGNED
PLACES ON THE BOAT NEXT TO SPECIFIC TANKS
AND NOT ALLOWED TO MOVE FROM THAT PLACE.
EVERYTHING THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE DONE TO MAKE US MISERABLE WAS.
BEACHES RESTAURANT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OPEN FROM 3AM ON, SO WE COULD HAVE BREAKFAST
BEFORE WE LEFT ON THE BOAT WAS CLOSED ALL WEEK.
WHEN WE APPROACHED THE DIVE SHOP AND REQUESTED THAT WE DEPART AT 8:30 INSTEAD OF
8AM SO WE COULD HAVE SOME BREAKFAST THEY FLATLY TURNED US DOWN.
WHEN WE APPROACHED THE MANAGER AT THE HOTEL AND ADVISED HIM OF THE FACT THAT THE RESTAURANT SCHEDULED OPENINGS PROHIBITED US
FROM BREAKFAST AND LUCNC (NOTHING FOR LUNCH WAS LEFT WHEN WE GOT BACK FROM DIVING), COULD HE PLEASE ACCOMODATE THE GROUP OF PEOPLE DIVING WE WE TOLD NOTHING COULD BE CHANGED THE RESORT WAS ONLY AT 30% CAPACITY
AND THEREFORE WE HAD TO SUFFER FOR IT.
FOOD: THAT'S REALLY A JOKE. YOU MUST STAND IN LINE FOR HALF AN HOUR TO SIGN UP FOR THE RESTAURANTS YOU WOULD LIKE TO DINE IN. THE MOST POPULAR ONES AR BOOKED FOR DAYS. YOU
ARE NOT ALLOWED TO BOOKE THE SAME RESTAURANT
TWICE. THIS WOULD BE TO EASY.
THE RESTAURANTS WERE NOT AIR-CONDITIONED AND
WE SAT IN TEMPERATURES WELL ABOVE 92 TO 94
DEGREES AND WAITED FOR TWO HOURS BEFORE WE WERE SERVED ANY FOOD OR BEVERAGES.
BUTCH STEWART THE OWNER OF BEACHES AND SANDALS SHOULD BE HUNG OUT TO DRY. HE RUNS A SCAM. HIS HELP IS NOT ALLOWED TO OPENLY ACCEPT TIPS SO THEREFOR THEY ARE BELLIGERENT WHEN IT COMES TO HELPING.
MR. STEWART IS BASED IUN THE U.K. HE OWNS AIR JAMAICA AS WELL, OR DID WHEN I WAS AT BEACHES.
HE HAS SO MUCH MONEY THAT WHEN YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT ANYTHING IT IS TOTALLY IGNORED.
THE TRAVEL MAGAZINES ALL MAKE ALOT OF MONEY ON HIS ADVERTISING AND SO THEREFORE WOULD NEVER PRINT A LETTER LIKE THIS.
I DIARIED A GOOD MANY OF THE MAJOR INCONVENIENCES AND HAD ALL THE PEOPLES NAMES IN MANAGEMENT THAT I HAD SPOKEN TO WHEN I WAS THERE.
WHEN I WROTE A LETTER TO AMERICAN EXPRESS
SUGGESTING THAT I IN NO WAY RECEIVED HALF OF WHAT I PAID FOR, AND DOCUMENTED IT, I WAS TOLD THAT THEY THOUGHT THIS WAS HORRIBLE AND THEY WOULD TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. THE
REPRESENTATIVE I SPOKE TO ACKNOWLEDGED THAT
THE PEOPLE WHOSE NAMES I GAVE HER WERE INDEED THE FOOD AND BEVRAGE AND HOUSE MANAGERS OF BEACHES.
WHAT THIS REPRESENTATIVE DIDN'T REALIZE IS THAT BUTCH STEWART GIVES AMERICAN EXPRESS
INCENTIVE AWARDS TO TRAVEL AGENTS WHO BOOK HIS PROPERTIES. AGIAN THE SAM OLD STORY.
AMERIICAN EXPRESS COULD DO NOTHING BECAUSE THEY
DIDN'T WANT TO "BITE THE HAND THAT FEEDS THEM"
I AM A 57 YER OLD WORKING PORFESSIONAL WHO LIKE TO ENJOY MY VACATIONS.
I WAS TOLD BY A TRAVEL AGENT THAT THIS WAS A FIVE STAR PROPERTY.
I WOULD RATE THIS AS A NO STAR!!!!
THIS SO CALLED RESORT IS MADE FOR SUCKERS WHO
THINK LIKE I DID THAEY ARE ACTUALLY GIONG TO GET WHAT IS PROMISED.
I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH BAD THINGS ABOUT BEACHES BECAUSE I TRAVELLED THERE 2 WEEKS AFTER OUR
TRAGEDY ON 9/11.
I HAD NOT PAID AMEX AND COULD HVE CANCELLED
MY TRIP, BUT I WILL NOT HAVE TERRORISTS DICTATE TO ME WHAT I SHOULD DO.
I LIVE ABOUT 80 MILES NORTH OF N.Y.C. AND MY HUSBAND
WORKS IN THE N.Y.C. THOSE WERE TOUGH TIMES FOR ALL OF US IN THE USA. THE ONLY GOOD THNG I SAW WHEN I WAS THERE, THANK GOD, WERE
THE PROUD YOUNG AMERICANS DIDPLAYING THEIR LOVE FOR THIER COUNTRY WITH FLAGS ETC, ON THEIR DOORS.
I WILL NOT GO INTO ACCOMODATIONS IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER MESSAGE DESCRIBING HOW ABHORENT
THEY WERE, I AGREE TEN FOLD.
I HAVE BEEN TO THE POOREST PARTS OF THIR WOELD COUNTRIES INCLUDING AFRICA, AND THE PEOPLE WORKING WERE ALWAYS NICE.
I CAN"T BLAME THE PEOLE FOR THEIR ATTITUDE TORWARDS US, IF I WORKED FOR BUTCH STEWART
I'M AFRAID I WOULD'NT BE ANY BETTER.
HE CAN'T GO ON DECEIVING PEOPLE FOREVER.
SOMEDAY HE WILL GET HIS COME UPPANCE.
PLEASE THINK TWICE BEFORE YOU GIVE YOUR MONEY
TO A MAN WHO HAS NO SCRUPLES WHAT-SO-EVER!!!!
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Old Jul 5th, 2003, 05:34 AM
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BEACHES MESSAGE 2 BY DAGGLES. PLEASE IGNORE ALL TYPOS IN ORIGINAL MESSAGE.
I CORRECTED IT BEFORE I POSTED IT, I AM NOT ILLITERATE I'M JUST COMPUTER ILLITERATE
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Just wondering why it took almost 2 years to post this report. I was there Sept of last year. Had a totally different experience.
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I had a totally different experience also, and it was just about a month after 9/11. Things were still slow, and sometimes a bit confused or awkward, but the staff was kind and accomodating. We never had a lack of food, and the kitchen even packed us a box lunch one day, so we could get away from it all. All we had to do is ask.

As far as diving is concerned, no matter how experienced you are, most dive outfits want you to take a skills test, or refresher course if you have not been diving lately. Most check the log book for similar dives within the last 6 months. If not, skills check or refresher course. I usually do a refresher course, no matter what, if I've not been diving for a whole winter season. Most of my dive pals do the same.
Beaches is what it is. It's not for everyone, but it was great for our group, which includes teens, some who dive and some don't, adults, singles, and couples, it's got something for everyone. We all had a blast. Might even return some days, but there alot of other reefs to explore.
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I absolutely agree with Daggles. Beaches is a sham but some people like the joint. To each their own. I'll never spend my hard earned $$ there again. What I find most amosuign with Beaches advertising is their so called "voted #1 family resort" distinction. Exactly who or what forum voted this place #1- Beaches never tells you in their ads. Could it be that Beaches voted itself the #1 resort? The Rants and Raves forum on this site has many interesting comments about Beaches. I agree with all of the negative ones. Anyone considering a vacation in a place that has such a disparity of opinions about it should really think hard and long about booking there. Why take a chance? Sure wish I listened to the posts I read about Beaches. It would or saved me from a big, EXPENSIVE, disappointment. Beaches is a product of false advertising.
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I would never in a million years go to a Beaches, Sandals, Couples or Breezes (are there more still?) but it's good to see this sham exposed and the name of the person behind it mentioned!
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