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Jun 9th, 2004, 08:16 AM
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OO, what that sentence means is that if you align yourself with luxury hotels that you have an allegiance to because they are the source of your pride and sustenance, and if you align yourself with the local convention and visitors center, then you do have an agenda. If you hadn't mentioned these things, then I wouldn't have known that you had an agenda or a conflict of interest. My agenda in promoting SS Beach and the Gulf coast beaches is that I love their quaintness, their low-key-ness, their baseness. I don't prefer the larger hotels. And frankly, I don't care if tourists don't flock to the beaches (contrary to goals of convention and visitors bureaus) because then I'll have the beach all to myself. I've been here long enough to know that people (including myself) drain our natural resources and Florida, unlike other states, has a fragile environment that is being strained beyond the point of recovery.

Keep in mind that you're the one who's admitted to your allegiances, just as HH has. You're being called upon to rationalize them (by comments wondering how you could patronize Redner, for instance). HH doesn't have any problems defending her POV. I would think you'd also be willing to jump into the fray.

I guess I shouldn't have used the word puke. Is everybody sick today? This is making me vomit.
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Jun 9th, 2004, 08:30 AM
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Tampa and the Beaches west of Tampa are vastly different worlds, as anyone who frequents the area recognizes immediately. TG, your feeling for the beaches is quite authentic ... it's one of the qualities about you I like. I believe that when one crosses the Bay, heading west, everything changes, even the language and nuance of life. Gosh, isn't it time for one of us to said Life Is A Beach! Shouldn't somebody post signs out on I 275 welcoming those who just come for a visit? Leave your money!
 
Jun 9th, 2004, 08:43 AM
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TG, I have an appt and have to leave in exactly 7 minutes to make it in time, but I have to say, that is just plain crock! I NEVER recommend this hotel and I could care less where anyone stays at the beaches. Quite to the contrary, I'll recommend all around this one and when people are asking for places to stay in town, the downtown hotel isn't mentioned with ANY more frequency than the Marriott or Wyndham. Selling this hotel is not my job or intent ever. There's a sales force that does nothing but that and they woulnd't do it on a bloody travel BB. There was a time even, when I specifically pointed someone away from us when we were one of two hotels under consideration, simply because I thought a downtown location was better suited to his needs. DO NOT go down that road...you can click my name and find the posts I've mentioned!

The only reason I don't jump into your fray is because I frankly don't care where visitors stay. It makes virtually no difference to me, and if you have a problem with believing that, it's your problem, not mine. There is no conflict of interest. Can you say the same thing? I've enjoyed posting here for years with never a promotion for this hotel--simply because I enjoy discussing the area I live in and helping those thinking of heading in our direction. Same can be said for Savannah, where, frankly I've recommended all around our former hotel.

And why would the CVB prefer that tourists not flock to the beaches? Geez louise, TG. Whatever draws anyone to our area is positive.

Now that was my 7 minutes, with unfortunately no time to proof it. I'm off to a more relaxing day. I'm very sorry for this controversy but it most certainly has been an eyeopener.
 
Jun 9th, 2004, 09:02 AM
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OO, this was not meant to trash you. I think you're misreading my comments. To have a conflict of interest does not necessarily mean that one acts on it. I'd like to state that OO has never promoted her own hotel, which I think is a really great place. I personally know some folks who were involved in its inception and they did a remarkable job of creating a high-rise in an environmentally sensitive area. In many ways, they improved on Mother Nature, if that's possible.

I've responded to OO because of information about herself that OO has shared. I'm not upset about anything that anyone's said, except eltrain who was giving wrong information.

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Jun 9th, 2004, 09:36 AM
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TG, may I offer you a tiny reflection. You're in a situation that nothing can alter. Absoluetly Nothing.

Truthfully, it matters not that you didn't say or intend what is being reacted to. Nothing will change this.

As a fellow SS'er, may I tell you Life Is Too Short! LOL, TG, that wouldn't be original, would it ... I mean, there'd be no money in such a t-shirt, right?

If there were, I'd buy you a brew, and we'd toast SSB.
 
Jun 9th, 2004, 10:12 AM
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Boy I'm getting dizzy. I'm not sure where everyone is on this post anymore. The YMCA, Joe Redner, Tampa, the beaches, Jax, Mermaids, sailboats, bridges and the Christmas shop. Whew.
I don't feel attacked at all though. What has irked me from the beginning, and aren't we all excited that I'm gonna say it yet again?, is posting such a generalized, totally negative, pessimistic comment, and then continuing on (I believe Wbowles said correctly, was for effect) and amplifying it with exagerated untruths about porn and smut (plural). With that description, I think of Orange blossom trail with beer studded, cigarrette butted sand mixed in for effect. It's an insult to this area and an unfair description. What's wrong with me saying that?
I'm not saying it's perfect here, and those other "better places to go in Florida", I'm certain, have there issues as well. But, I can stand by an insistance that it's not ALL tacky, ugly and cheap! It is a beautiful area, and a family oriented area as well. I don't care what anyone says, I know it is b/c I live here. I think those of us that live here would know better than someone who flitted in for a week hell bent on having a miserable time and not see the glass half full.

I really have no issues about nice, new hotels vs a Mom and Pop. I like them, and enjoy them both. Heck, we just spent a week at the Palm Beach Shores in Singer Island. A lovely, beach front resort. Didn't have a beach front room, but it didn't bother us. And just over the bridge, it was not a safe area at all. We experienced this first hand, and then was told by a local about the crime in that area. The sea lice was in bloom, the restaurants within walking distance were so so, very few pristine, new homes on the island, and some older hotels here and there, and we saw three sharks swim by at MacArthur Park beach.
All negatives, correct? But what would I say about our trip? The water was gorgeous, just gorgeous. We had a blast. We found a good restaurant, we went a little bit further up the road in a safer area to do our shopping recognizing that the unsafe area just over the bridge has enormous potential, we put our polarized glasses on to fend off the migrating sharks , we walked to the marina through the neighborhoods with the old homes that were built in the 50's and admired them, we took a hike through a beautiful park called MacArthur Park, and we rinsed with fresh water immediately when we got out of the Atlantic. Was everything hunky dorey? No. But I'd go back in a heartbeat and recommend to anyone who asked.
We used to spend a lot of time in Crystal River back in the 70's, staying at the Port Paradise Hotel near the big spring. Anyone know of this hotel? Not too fancy, eh? Wasn't in the 70's either. But, what a great location and terrific for kids and it was always clean. My Mother was always one who would go outside and find some fresh flowers somewhere, stick it in a vase and make the place feel like the Marriott's finest hotel.
And rest-assured there were beer drinking binges and XXX in Crystal River back in the 70's. And, as I recall, we passed them while driving in the car too!
Since puke is the catch phrase of the day, perhaps an attitude like that may make some of you want to. But, it don't bother me, at least I always enjoy my vacations, no matter where I go.
Oh, and by the by, we, in this cheap, ugly beach community have our own YMCA that started recently. It's called the Y without walls. We welcome it with open arms and appreciate those that saw it to fruition.
Ugh,what a horrible place to live!!
Now, is that damn bridge STILL up? Don't those people ever work???
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Jun 9th, 2004, 10:23 AM
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Holy Cow! I'm exhausted just Reading that War And Peace post. You got a job?
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Jun 9th, 2004, 10:32 AM
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This reminds me of my husbands family. blacktie, you're right. it's a no win situation. I'm thinking of reinventing myself to save face.

jor, get back to work.
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Jun 9th, 2004, 10:37 AM
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Glad to oblige.
And I'll be the first one to, shamelessly, admit that I don't know when to shut-up. Que cera.
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Jun 9th, 2004, 10:58 AM
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TG, no need to save face, you didn't do anything. People react, and can't climb back, and who knows why ... maybe their breakfast didn't settled correctly, or their stocks are down ... or somebody took the bop out of their bop-she-bop. Or daddy took those t-bird keys away. Anyway, toiling in the vineyards of regret and compromise language, to cool down a set of jets, isn't worth the effort!!!! Oh, I could say more, but goodness, the soaps are on, and can you believe what she did with ... my goodness, is that even anatomically possible? Wow, don't touch that dial.
 
Jun 9th, 2004, 10:58 AM
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This is a fairly regular group here and we all know it takes ALOT to get OO's dander up--matter of fact I'm not sure it's ever happened!

OO I got the "bless your heart", LOL!

TG, I see no reason to re-invent yourself as you have a lot of regional knowledge. Who hasn't had emotions get the best of them? I think everyone should just shake hands and call it a day.
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Jun 9th, 2004, 11:07 AM
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Oh gawd, I went and trodded on the regulars? groan.
But, I'm game,...
A day.
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