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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 10:57 AM
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Lots of gross generalizations here! Just wondering how many states y'all have been in who are condemning states by whether they are red or blue...Ahhnold, been to Oregon and Washington, lately? We're very friendly here, and quite blue. (Well, not blue, in spite of the weather - you know what I mean!)

Really, this question is very hard to answer. I'd say you can find friendly people most anywhere. I think that, in big cities all over the world, people adopt a disinterested look so they don't get hassled by weirdos, who, based on the sheer number of people around, are present in greater quantity.

Yes, there are regional differences, but really, the people in the US are pretty darn friendly all over (big cities possibly excepted, as noted above).

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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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On second thought, reading that last post, Ahhnold, we aren't THAT friendly!!!
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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WorktoWander and others, how about this true story (last week):

Three guys, who are totally unknown to me but just see me mostly at a roadside "hi" distance, show up at my frozen closed up house in a blizzard- get a key from a neighbor- sit there with the space heater THEY brought with them to get the temp up indoors to 60 degrees. Leave one of their number there. Come back every day for 3 days. Get the part at a location 45 miles away, and put it in the furnace and then TELL me (the owner) that I can pay them when I see them. REALLY! That's the way it is if you say "Hi" there and communicate (rural Michigan).

In Chicago the first hour would have been $80, and I would have had a pipe-busted wreck of a house anyway.

All is well now plus they only want to take $40 when they "see" me.

When I am incredulous at the time and attention people normally give each other, even those considered strangers, I am reminded how many things I myself probably have taught myself not to "see". And this isn't in the abstract but in eyeball distance.

Somebody very "friendly" noticed that the snow wasn't melting where it should have been. Now that's friendly in every sense.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 11:00 AM
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orcas, I go to Oregon twice a year and it is not as liberal as massachusetts.

you did strike down gay marriage with a vote, correct? Well in Mass. we can't even get it to a vote.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 11:05 AM
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Orcas, I meant that literally. Nothing out of the gutter.

You know the saying, "She wouldn't even give me the time of day", meaning not even acknowledge someone.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 11:09 AM
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ahhnold, Somehow, I don't get the link between a place being friendly or not, blue or red, and gay marriage.

I do think that, were I African American or Hispanic, I might not think rural areas were so doggone friendly.

PS. I live in Washington now, though I'll still claim Oregon, too as it is in my heart. Due to our political structure, the legislatures in our two Pac NW states are heavily skewed to the less liberal conservative areas of the states which contain a very small percentage of the population.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 11:22 AM
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So what is this silly stuff about which state is the friendliness? My ideal "state" has no borders. Is this a question of who smiles at you at the service station and says "y'all come back?" Or is it the superficial fuzzy friendlenss of folks who smile but won't really accept you as a friend
"because you aren't from around here"? Or is it a real concern for someone's welfare despite a seemingly aloof manner? Or is it in being gay friendly, meaning a genuine acceptance of LGBT folks as friends?

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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 11:30 AM
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Orcas you are buying into another generalization altogether. My town of Cassopolis in MI is about 60% African-American, and many of the small towns in the South are the same.

And believe me in Chicago there are areas which I frequent that are nearly 80 to 90% Hispanic and that I find are extremely unfriendly towards me in my commuting experience. My brother can't even get directions from anyone when he asks and he speaks Spanish, nearly fluently.

And it isn't just the people in the cities. All our suburbs are mostly user unfriendly as well. People are walking around with "lists" in their heads, achieving /getting ahead- driving a child, you name it, and don't feel they have any time for anyone or anything much beyond their own limited and usually selfish agendas. All overbooked too, for the most part. They seem to not have time to even "smile" outside of their circle. Manners and much more are considered time wasters. And friendly people "weirdos".

I've seen a woman down a small ravine in a near blizzard with the cars passing by at the rate of 20 to 40 a minute- as if she wasn't there. And when I got her a phone, it was still barely hello/goodbye.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Friendly is pleasantly acknowleging strangers, having the good manners to treat everyone pleasantly (whether you like them or not) and going out of your way to help.

Like my father who traipses down the road, across a bridge spanning a canal and up two blocks. He stops at each lakeside summer mansion along the way to check the thermometers he's asked the residents to leave visible through the windows so he can make sure no pipes are freezing. At 65, he does this daily throughout the winter months for these acquaintances.

And for the one guy who cheaped out on the thermometer he put up to protect his multimillion dollar home? It didn't work. Dad bought and installed a good one and didn't say a word to him.

All of his wealthy "summer friends" reciprocate by not calling the cops on his friendly, wandering black Lab who makes daily begging rounds.

Friendy manners grow everywhere. They're just a little thicker on the ground in some places.

Tell us more stories of random acts of friendliness - it's so much more fun than what we're starting to do here.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 11:49 AM
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Just like life, you can't have the peaks without the valleys.

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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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I lived in TX 6 years--I would not describe Texans as friendly. I will leave it at that. Coloradoans are a friendly sort, as well as Hawaiians. But it is all subjective isn't it? And based on your own personal view of what it means to be "friendly" to someone.

I find people immensely friendly in my current state of residence, WI. To focus on Worktowander's call for random acts of friendlinesss--I have seen a lot here. For example, our first winter here a neighbor that we hadn't met plowed our driveway for the entire season. I still don't know why! He still does it when we can't get to it right away. Also, I find people go out of their way to help you here, be it at a grocery store, retail store, gas station, etc. Another example, I once dropped a $20 bill in our mall and someone saw it and returned it to me immediately.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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We always plow our neighbors out if we get to the piles first- but we all have snow blowers. My Dad had a man shovel his walk in the city of Chicago all the time without even asking and it was just man/shovel power. But no more, he moved.

On the other hand and in the same vein, we all had to shovel out parking spots within Chicago, and many would put chairs or furniture in the freezing street so no one else could park there. It got to be like turf wars. That's not friendly, in any sense.

MN, IA, WI are friendly, especially in the country. IN is in areas, they even have Hoosier Helpers on the highways.

CO has been friendly to us sometimes and in some areas, but not all.

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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 12:21 PM
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I'll throw in a "random acts of kindness" story here. And this is from the big city of Chicago, so I'll sort of contradict what I said about big cities not being so friendly here. It just depends....

My father was injured in a car accident in midlife and in a wheelchair thereafter. He lived in on the southside of Chicago in a neighborhood where the majority of people were African-American. Once, before there were curb cuts everywhere, he tried to go over a broken curb to get to the street level and cross, and he was pitched out of the wheelchair into the street. A couple of African American guys eating in a restaurant across the street saw this happen through the window and came running out to help him back into his chair. Maybe white folks would have done the same, but I will say that, in general, we noticed people who were African American went out of their way to be helpful and kind to him in his wheelchair. Strangers would even invite him to join them in family barbeques when he'd go on walks through the neighborhood parks, quite frequently, in fact. And that's the truth!
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 12:34 PM
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Orcas: it may have been more to do with their economic status. I've found that the least affluent people usually (not always) to be the most willing to share things and help others. Maybe because that's just how things happen in those social circles; you don't have money to "hire someone". You help your neighbor and pray the favor will be returned when you need aid. Sometimes our finacial riches tend to shield us from our human riches.

I've bicycled across the US twice and gone ME to FL once, and other shorter east coast trips a number of times. Seldom have I met unfriendly people. I do grant that being on a bicycle makes me more "approachable" than someone in a car ... but I still maintain there's lots of friendly people everywhere and that no state has a monopoly on them. Yes, some cities the people are often busy and often don't offer, but they don't don't usually ignore when asked.

Too many generalizations in this entire thread, including mine!
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 12:48 PM
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Generalizations get a bad rap. Without generalization every human would need to reconstruct their entire reality every day. Almost like re-inventing fire every time you went to cook.

Especially in subjective things like rating "style" or evaluating something that is rather abstract like friendliness- you aren't measuring in exacts.

Something isn't bad just because it has too many generalizations within it. Another value judgment- mine.

Opinions are opinions- they should be able to be expressed without censuring- but as opinions.

I know one thing, and that is that I'd rather be walletless and a victim of misfortune, where people notice and aren't having to be defensive. And that goes for the good times then, as well.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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rb_travellerx, I agree with your generalizations about social class and the extention of kindness. I found this also true in Europe years ago when I visited as a single young adult. The less money the people had, the more generous they were to me. Very interesting.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 01:56 PM
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Yes, rb, probably very true. And they almost always have time to extend for the process of friendliness itself.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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My top 3:

1. Oklahoma. Great people, very friendly, and they really value relationships. These are people who are not only nice to your face, but back it up with nice gestures.

2. Minnesota. Very friendly people who have that sixth sense of knowing when someone needs help. I've never seen people who value community more than Minnesotans.

3. Colorado. Maybe it has something to do with all that sun. Coloradans aren't "go out of their way to help you" friendly like OK and MN, but a few days there and you'll realize that everyone just seems to be polite, happy, and nice to each other.

StephCar pegged Texas... maybe it is friendly on the surface, but once you spend serious time there your opinion changes dramatically. And I'll leave it at that.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 03:00 PM
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The friendliest states I've encountered are Louisiana, Nebraska, and Alabama.

I happen to have blue state political beliefs but live in a somewhat red state (louisiana). I think there is something to be said for the friendliness quotient in the blue states versus the red states.

But I think that has more to do with the urban v. rural issue- blue states have more of their population in cities, while red states are more rural. Therefore, I think the friendliness is really a rural v. city thing.
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Old Dec 19th, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Yee Haw, Alabama!! Belle
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