“intersections where U-turns are permitted and controlled by an arrow from the left-most lane, motorists turning right on red onto the same road must yield to those making U-turns before turning,

Well, bully for you, but that is not necessarily true elsewhere. So check it out.”

So is travelerfromtx supposed to check every state’s DMV website in the country or does this include the whole world?

Logic would dictate that a right-turner would have to yield to someone already making U-turns. Isn’t the person who says “that’s not true” supposed to provide the evidence?

starrs--

IMO "rude" is sitting at the light--presumably checking E-mails or texting--until the yellow comes on and then darting through. It isn't rude to beep at someone who's been sitting for a second or two.

BTW--one of my many pet peeves is people who are waiting at a red and take advantage of any one-car space in traffic or of people who politely don't want to block the intersection to turn right, regardless of how heavy the traffic is. May they get stuck behind someone who waits through two light cycles before proceeding.

"It isn't rude to beep at someone who's been sitting for a second or two. "

Depends on how far south you are.

I'm with dwdvagamundo, however far south you are (I'm in NC).
It is incredibly rude to hold up a whole line of people because you won't pay attention to driving your car. It's getting worse as more and more people consider their cell phones more important than their role as driver.

I'm actually starting to look forward to self-driving cars... meanwhile you'd better believe I use my horn.

I agree (though I don't know what the second of dwdvagamundo paragraphs means). Only a schmuck would sit behind someone who could be turning at a right on red and not beep.

vjp - true, although I was actually thinking more about standard traffic lights. Where I live it is becoming quite common for people not to notice a light has changed.

I'll go take a picture of the traffic sign I saw when I posted this.
As you can see, results may vary.

Make sure you are not busy taking the photo when the light turns green! BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP.

If you really want to do that, you maybe able to find it on Google Streetview instead

vjp--I meant that in Georgia, at least, the privilege of turning right on red goes with an obligation to yield the right of way to cars approaching on the left. Too many motorists waiting to turn right on red attempt to push their way into a stream of slowly moving or stopped traffic whenever they can find a space to shoehorn their car in, rather than waiting for the light to change.

The result is that most everyone (myself included) blocks the intersections so that people on the right won't have room to turn, which further backs up already gridlocked traffic.

dwdvagamundo, are you a Georgia native?

As others have said, but be sure to come to a full stop first. I got a ticket in Florida for not doing so though the coast was 100% clear for reasons too complicated to explain.

HTtY

starrs--no. Like many in Atlanta, I'm a Yankee--from Michigan originally. Does it still show?

I'll plead the 5th.

I recently moved to Florida too and I got honked at as well for stopping at a red right arrow. In NY and CA you cannot turn right or left on a red arrow (the two other states I've lived in).


References:

http://test-www.dmv.ca.gov/pubs/hdbk..._lgts_sgns.htm

http://dmv.ny.gov/about-dmv/chapter-4-traffic-control-2

Fabio: It's the US's revenge for ZTLs.

"In NY and CA you cannot turn right or left on a red arrow (the two other states I've lived in)."

Topherella, I'm a little confused with what you said. Yes, in Florida (unlike NY or CA) you can turn right after stopping at a red right turn arrow as well as at a regular red light (unless otherwise marked), but you can't turn left at one unless it is into a one way street from another one way street.

Guys, the OP posted over a year ago.

>>Guys, the OP posted over a year ago.

Interestingly, in Charlotte there was just an article about this and apparently a red turn ARROW really means NO turn on red as opposed to a red light, where you can turn right after stopping.

We have yellow turn arrows for allowing the turn on a red light.
And yes, I had already noticed it was a year old.

The red arrow hax been a feature of some traffic signals in the DC area for decades and folks there are quite familiar with them.
In Fort Lauderdale we have special u-turn lanes with both steady (don't) red arrows and blinking (stop and then proceed) ones.