Tipping: Do you leave cash or just add tip to the bill?
Apr 3rd, 2002, 05:10 AM
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Can I throw in another question in this same vein? How do you feel about gratuities being added for parties of 8, 6 or even 5? Just this week, three families went to lunch, two families of four, one of three. They added a 15% tip to each of the bills. Sure, we were all at one table, but there were three checks handed out. What do you think?
Apr 3rd, 2002, 06:08 AM
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I think it's great. Actually I always tip 20% unless the service was bad, so the automatic tip saves money and the hassle of figuring out how much everyone owes (especially if everyones had a few glasses of wine!).
Did you ever get home and say "No wonder the waiter was so nice when we were leaving" only to realize you left a 30% tip? No, we're not THAT generous we just had impaired math ability.
Did you ever get home and say "No wonder the waiter was so nice when we were leaving" only to realize you left a 30% tip? No, we're not THAT generous we just had impaired math ability.
Apr 3rd, 2002, 07:49 PM
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Waiters (I am a former one)rely on tips to make their living. Other than tips, they are making minimum wage or worse. I agree -if bad service then forget the tip! For good service, tip or go to restaurants where tipping is not necessary.
To answer the large group tip incldued on bill question - without the tip included, a large party is no party for a waiter. That is why tip is often included even for large parties who ask for separate checks. They take a lot of time, take up a lot of a waiter's station, and total bill's are typically smaller overall.
And, often in the havoc of everyone putting in money to pay the bill, much of the tip gets forgotten or left out (everyone's had occasion where they have to put in extra money for the bill to cover the schmuck who only gave $10 for a $15 entree and left before the bill arrived and before tip is even considered).
If your party is six or more people - always ask if the tip has been included. If it has been included, this should be clearly indicated on your bill (and on the menu).
To answer the large group tip incldued on bill question - without the tip included, a large party is no party for a waiter. That is why tip is often included even for large parties who ask for separate checks. They take a lot of time, take up a lot of a waiter's station, and total bill's are typically smaller overall.
And, often in the havoc of everyone putting in money to pay the bill, much of the tip gets forgotten or left out (everyone's had occasion where they have to put in extra money for the bill to cover the schmuck who only gave $10 for a $15 entree and left before the bill arrived and before tip is even considered).
If your party is six or more people - always ask if the tip has been included. If it has been included, this should be clearly indicated on your bill (and on the menu).
Dec 7th, 2012, 10:06 PM
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"Someday I hope to get up the nerve to ask her how she feels about this."
I am a Hairdresser,own a little salon, working behind the chair. I can tell you how I feel when just some of my clientele do not leave a tip. Its feels awful. Because I work hard as well as other non-owner hairdressers.
And as I read in some comments "Why tip your hairdresser if he/she owns the shop? I know the obvious reasons!" feel even worse.
The reasons that you know obviously wrong reasons. Because as the hairdresser I have to get my paycheck too, as everybody else. The rest of the payment for the service will go to the business money from which I have to pay rent, bills, supplies, fees, insurances, marketing, taxed and so... And what is left? Not much or nothing sometimes.
If we talk about tip paid by credit cards, yes we got deducted 3% from the tips to share the portion for credit cards charges. But its all about preferences how customer will pay. The all tips has to be taxable anyway. But cash tips will save a hairstylist a 3%.
I am a Hairdresser,own a little salon, working behind the chair. I can tell you how I feel when just some of my clientele do not leave a tip. Its feels awful. Because I work hard as well as other non-owner hairdressers.
And as I read in some comments "Why tip your hairdresser if he/she owns the shop? I know the obvious reasons!" feel even worse.
The reasons that you know obviously wrong reasons. Because as the hairdresser I have to get my paycheck too, as everybody else. The rest of the payment for the service will go to the business money from which I have to pay rent, bills, supplies, fees, insurances, marketing, taxed and so... And what is left? Not much or nothing sometimes.
If we talk about tip paid by credit cards, yes we got deducted 3% from the tips to share the portion for credit cards charges. But its all about preferences how customer will pay. The all tips has to be taxable anyway. But cash tips will save a hairstylist a 3%.
Dec 8th, 2012, 08:16 AM
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This has to be one of those "secrets of the universe" topics for sure (there never seems to be any agreement on "the" answer.
We keep hearing rationalizations from cheapskates about how
you don't need to tip (much) in places where the food server is making "a decent wage"
you don't need to tip that person in the hotel who cleaned your bathroom and the toilet because "that's what they are paid to do anyway"
you should always ask what everybody else does before you do any tipping because it isn't the service you received that counts; it's what the "custom" is
Quite frankly, I couldn't care LESS about what everybody else does since they are not the ones who received the services and let's get real here:
the tipped person will never forget it and YOU will never miss the money.
We keep hearing rationalizations from cheapskates about how
you don't need to tip (much) in places where the food server is making "a decent wage"
you don't need to tip that person in the hotel who cleaned your bathroom and the toilet because "that's what they are paid to do anyway"
you should always ask what everybody else does before you do any tipping because it isn't the service you received that counts; it's what the "custom" is
Quite frankly, I couldn't care LESS about what everybody else does since they are not the ones who received the services and let's get real here:
the tipped person will never forget it and YOU will never miss the money.
Dec 8th, 2012, 09:33 AM
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summer2010,
You really expect to be tipped and you own the shop. Look at any etiquitte book and you will find that tipping the owner is not the norm. You should set the price to make however much you can or however much you deem reasonable, etc. Personally, I love places that don't accept tips.
You really expect to be tipped and you own the shop. Look at any etiquitte book and you will find that tipping the owner is not the norm. You should set the price to make however much you can or however much you deem reasonable, etc. Personally, I love places that don't accept tips.
Dec 8th, 2012, 11:00 AM
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I agree spirobulldog, the owner should be charging a price that means they do not have to rely on tips,
We have just come back from a trip to the US, and managed the tipping thing okay, although we were always puzzled when we paid by credit card. The server would bring the bill to the table. We gave them the credit card which was taken away. Then eventually brought back and then there was the space for the tip. DH would add the tip and sign the Visa slip.
We wondered whether our Visa had been charged the original amount, and what happens when we add the tip. When we checked our Visa statement, it seems the original amount goes through, then it gets reversed out, and the new figure including tip, added.
Why isn't there a space to add the tip on the original bill, so you don't have to do the second step, or should we have just added the tip straight away?
We have just come back from a trip to the US, and managed the tipping thing okay, although we were always puzzled when we paid by credit card. The server would bring the bill to the table. We gave them the credit card which was taken away. Then eventually brought back and then there was the space for the tip. DH would add the tip and sign the Visa slip.
We wondered whether our Visa had been charged the original amount, and what happens when we add the tip. When we checked our Visa statement, it seems the original amount goes through, then it gets reversed out, and the new figure including tip, added.
Why isn't there a space to add the tip on the original bill, so you don't have to do the second step, or should we have just added the tip straight away?
Dec 8th, 2012, 11:48 AM
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To the person who gives her stylist little chatchkes from travels, etc. I doubt that will pay the rent or put food on the table.
To the visitors wondering about their charge card. They bring the bill to you for you to check the orders, and for the amount. The bill you sign--with the tip amount--isn't itemized. I have never seen what you are describing on a billing statement, unless you asked for the first one to be cancelled.
To the visitors wondering about their charge card. They bring the bill to you for you to check the orders, and for the amount. The bill you sign--with the tip amount--isn't itemized. I have never seen what you are describing on a billing statement, unless you asked for the first one to be cancelled.
Dec 9th, 2012, 06:11 AM
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Now that I check most of my bills on line I also notice that as soon as I charge a meal at a restaurant, just the amouunt of the bill is posted on my account. Several days later it is changed to include the tip. If you don't check your account daily you would not know this even happens.
Dec 10th, 2012, 04:16 AM
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I realize this is an old thread, but, I'll add my 2 cents anyway.
My hair stylist is the owner, she's also the only person. I do tip her, just add the amount to my check. She works hard and deserves it.
I add tips to the credit card in restaurants. I rarely have any cash on me. And, as others have mentioned I want the FF miles.
On very rare occasions, and only when we've sat the bar for dinner has the bartender actually asked us for his tip in cash. He said that he gets a 'cut' from the tables, but, at the bar he doesn't get any of that tip when people eat there. Since it's so rare, we try to comply. Assuming we like the bartender.....
My hair stylist is the owner, she's also the only person. I do tip her, just add the amount to my check. She works hard and deserves it.
I add tips to the credit card in restaurants. I rarely have any cash on me. And, as others have mentioned I want the FF miles.
On very rare occasions, and only when we've sat the bar for dinner has the bartender actually asked us for his tip in cash. He said that he gets a 'cut' from the tables, but, at the bar he doesn't get any of that tip when people eat there. Since it's so rare, we try to comply. Assuming we like the bartender.....
