Grasshopper, AMEN to your message.

happi189, Whoa cowboy, I'm getting a real sense of irony about your screen name.

... and bonniebroad, through it all, slobber and drool, fleas and bile, you've doggedly dogfought without dogma, a dogbane to doggerel, the best defender of a dog's rights I've seen in a dog's age, a veritable do-gooder, and whether one says ok, nien or lies doggo, you are doggone good, so I'll dogleg it on out of here, but will always think of dogs in hotels as I do the dogtrot in my houndstooth. This has been fun!

meow to all the kid haters.
LOL
come on now, that was a good one on my part.

Don't let the screenname fool you. I can get pretty unhappy when my buttons get pushed. I'm just a pet lover who is "happi" to defend our furry friends. This forum started with a comment about dogs at nice hotels with "is this just crazy, or just a sign of the times?"

I suppose I could of responded with yes, times are a changing. Pets in nice hotels, what is this world coming too. Give me a break!

BTW, that's "cowgirl!", thank you very much!

"Kids can be pretty annoying if not trained how to act."

So are yow now suggesting we should make sure kids don't deficate on the carpet by shoving their nose it? Would you also suggest a leash and a few good tugs on it if they, you know, act like children?

Ha, Blacktie, you and the snake were eons too late.

>Don't let the screenname fool you. I can get pretty unhappy when my buttons get pushed.<

No kidding busterina. That was the irony part. Sorry about the gender mixup.

A timely article from the HeraldSun about pet allergens being everywhere! Really interesting.......

http://www.heraldsun.com/durham/4-498586.html

meant to say "in virtually all homes".... not everywhere! Sorry....

Let's not all jump on miss "happi" for her "unhappi" ways.
She obviously has no kids. I remember being totally insensitive and not getting it before I ever had a child.

... The Durham paper does have this interesting article, as bonnieboard says, but best of all is a lovely picture of bonnie and her new baby, her husky dog, and a huge cojo type peering into the camera lens. Apparently Coach K is staying, allergens or no.

I know a lot of people are going to disagree with this - but I think it is a positive move that pets are now allowed in many more hotels - as long as they are under control.

The problem is the same as the problem with children - there are always a number of people who think their little darling - pet or child - can do no wrong - no matter how ghastly their behavior.

I must admit that all of my expeiences with pets in hotels have been positive - while a large number with children have not. Unfortunately, there are not many hotels than bar children - although if there were I would definitely put them at the top of my list.

And don;t misunderstand me - I don;t dislike children at all - and am very fond of individual children - but the number that are out of control (including two belonging to friends of mine) seems to be growing exponentially - not through any fault of the children but through the parents' refusal to give the children the time and attention they need.

Blacktie, geesh! Is that me? Wow, I'm so cute, my baby is precious........... and the dogs are so dog-gone handsome (neither of them has that D**B*** problem that we discussed!) Thanks for pointing me out!

My comment about "training kids" was deliberate. It's symantics. Say it however you want. We train dogs, and teach kids, whatever.

My point is that kids should be "taught" how to act, behave, just like people have to teach, train dogs. Kids don't learn through osmosis! One system that parents of children and dogowners both use is the reward system. This works well with both dogs and children. For example. Fido heels, Fido obeys and gets a scooby snack. Three year old doesn't interupt Mom or Dad when they are on the phone, so he gets a popsicle. Simple.

actually nytraveler i think it's more than a spending time issue.
i think parents nowadays love to TALK to their unruly toddlers. i still believe in a good spanking and THE LOOK (certainly not the same spanking i would get from my parents- although they must have worked because i certainly never thought to talk to my parents the way i see some little ones do these days!).
let me tell you, our 2-year-old knows not to try us when we give him THE LOOK (yes at 2!). and the rare times he's been upset in public is because he's been tired and we just leave from wherever we are, because it's not his fault that he's tired and doesn't know any other way to express himself. i think that's the part that people who don't have kids don't get.
i don't agree with the reward system for kids. a child needs to simply learn how to behave because it's the right thing to do.

... oh, yes, that dreaded ((&)) b***, amp;

Caribtraveler, couldn't agree with you more about NOT rewarding kids. My Mom had seven kids who did the right thing because she said to do it that way! She wouldn't have dreamed of rewarding us for doing what we should be doing to begin with. Like kids who expect to be paid for helping clean house.............. Hello! You live there! Mom & Dad do not get paid.........

Oh contrary, Happi has three children. They are all grown up now. When they were young I could take them anywhere. Any hotel, pubic restaurant, grocery store and they didn't crawl all over the furniture and run down the isles and halls screaming. They said, Thank you and Yes Ma'am. They sat on their butts in a restaurant and used utensils to eat. My children screamed and ran around at the park or in our backyard, where it was appropriate.

exactly bonniebroad!