You guess wrong. Those driving around Queens and not tourists from Fargo....

Stop being such a baby. Mommy, mommy someone honked at me. There are 175 languages spoken on Queens, honking is the Esperanto, the universal language of Queens. It could be all those people from Long Island passing through.

If that is worst you can say about NY after two months, then you had a good stay. You want to see bad drivers try Boston and Arizona.

There was a study a few years back and folks in different parts of the country were timed to see how long it would be before they honked at another car at a light. In NYC it was split-seconds - as soon as the light changed, the second car in line would honk. I don't remember the exact times but in some parts of the country the time lag was 20 seconds and in other parts of the country it was TWO CYCLES OF THE LIGHT before the second car honked. I can drive for days in my area and not hear a honk. It really is more unusual than common. I guesstimate that I honk the horn about 3 times a year.

What giro said is true. Saying so certainly doesn't make him/her crybaby.

25% of the Manhattan population and 50% of NYC is still a heck of a lot of cars in a small amount of space. The taxi drivers may be from out of town but the majority of drivers in NYC are not from out of town.

There's nothing wrong with pointing out that NYC drivers are aggressive. Heck, I found myself racing a cab at a light to merge left. I don't normally drive that way but found I got caught up in the energy.

It's a bit funny/strange for someone who talks about preemptive elbowing to have a problem with a post pointing out the drivers in NYC are aggressive and honk their horns almost immediately. I agree with giro that the aggressive drivers in NYC aren't from Fargo.

There are bad drivers everywhere but NYC is certainly known for aggressive and noisy (horn-honking) drivers.

Here is an excerpt from an published by the NY Times earlier this year:

New York City, it turns out, is among the safest cities in the nation to travel in.

The last two years have had the lowest numbers of traffic deaths since the city began keeping records about a century ago, according to Transportation Department statistics.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/07/ny.../07safety.html
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So safety is not a concern but honking is. HONKING! Well let's lower the amount of hinking and increase the deaths so we are more in keeping with national statistics.

Yes, the lowest rate of households for owning cars is too high. Let me ponder that one for a moment.

No city in the US has a greater porportion of people taking public transportation to work. But there is probably something worng with that also.

No one is talking about dangerous driving, they are talking about honking! Honking! That is why you do not live streets leading to the tunnels.

WAHHH, someone is honking at me.

"New York City, it turns out, is among the safest cities in the nation to travel in"

No one said it isn't.


"The last two years have had the lowest numbers of traffic deaths since the city began keeping records about a century ago, according to Transportation Department statistics."

Congrats.


"Stop being such a baby. Mommy, mommy someone honked at me."
"WAHHH, someone is honking at me."

Typical Adu.

I'm sorry. Wait, this should work.

"Hey you guys, stop honking out there. Especially you guys in Queens. Thanks."

See, it is quieter already.

I agree, but it is a futile battle.

When I perceive that somebody is going to try to walk through or over me, I stand still and let them find the path that will take them where they want to go without touching me.

HTTY

Aduchamp, why don't you tell the city's lawmakers that honking is perfectly ok and those signs stating it is a $350 fine to honk should be taken down.
Having lived in both Boston and also Arizona, I agree that these two locales qualify for the worst too.
I suppose some Arizonan will now call me a baby for not wanting to go 80 on its suburban roads.

Aduchamp, why don't you tell the city's lawmakers that honking is perfectly ok and those signs stating it is a $350 fine to honk should be taken down.
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They are working on outlawing the perp walk this week.

You will be happy to know that I wrote Dick Wolfe, the famous TV producer, and suggested a new series-Law and Order: HOR-NY.

Do not leave your kids unattended at parks. A lady from Estonia got arrested when she left her kid in the playground and went to buy cigarettes.
Do not enter Macy's and stop and stare. There is a crowd trying to get in.
NYC buses do not accept paper money. Do not offer cash to the bus drivers.
Ladies from Europe, Brazil, Africa, everyone knows you could be topless on the beaches and parks in your country, it's not ok to do so in America. Please do wear bras when walking down the street, or if you prefer not to, do not wear
see-thru blouses/tops.
Also, ladies, do not wear those over-sized sunglasses which make you look like some celeb.

I tried to find the study I referenced above. No luck yet, but here's an interesting read -

http://commuteorlando.com/wordpress/...rns-bother-me/

Ladies from Europe, Brazil, Africa,you dont have to listen to pomah

yes, they do as they cause drivers to slow down and stare, and even car accidents.

I read the article that Starr referenced. It was from Orlando, a city which relies on creating the falsest of realities as its main source of income. Where Mexico is next to Japan in EPCOT and children flock to a four fingered rodent and college students dressed as dwarfs swelter in the Florida heat and humidy all in the name of profit. Yes, I can understand the foundation for his point of view.

Aduchamp1, you might try to learn and practice the Serenity Prayer.

I disagree with POMAH's advice to the bra-less wonders, but if women decide to follow that advice that they not start wearing a bra without a top. Sue Ellen Mischke did that causing Cramer to crash George's car.

or just try saying "serenity now"

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Adu - honking for safety reasons or warning of danger is what is permissible under law. And one should honk to warn a driver or pedestrian of danger. But that is not the problem re honking in NY. Taxi drivers are the worst offenders honking at anything that appears to hold them up for 2 seconds. A common misuse of the horn: Car at a corner is about to make a right turn but is waiting at the corner, the reason he is waiting is that there are pedestrians crossing in front of him. Nevertheless - car behind incessantly honks. What would he like the other driver to do? Hit a couple of pedestrians so he can move ahead?

There are so many problems with pedestrians that honking is the least of which, especially among cabs. Namely rolling to within inches of a pedestrians as cabbies make their turns or timing their turns so they just pass pedestrians as they turn.