Roundtrip in new york - where?

May 2nd, 2004, 12:46 PM
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You could hit all of New England in that time.

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May 2nd, 2004, 02:00 PM
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As far as the rental car, 12 days will likely be 2 weekly rental charges, so an extra day or a day or two less may not actually affect your rental costs, and rental car reservations are very easy to cancel. Car rental in NY is very expensive compared to the rest of the United States, but I don't know how it compares internationally. You should book ahead though because car rentals in the summer in NY are in high demand. You might want to think about adding another couple of days in NY at the end of the trip, so you can drive back without having to try to time it to a flight and a couple of days to relax and catch the sites you missed the first few days.

If you want to go to Niagra Falls, go. I think the falls are very impressive, I think the bigger problem is that there is not a ton of stuff in the area, and that is what may make the drive make it seem not worthwhile. However, there are several beautiful places to stop along the way. It might help if you give an idea of likes/dislikes - how much driving you are ok with, if you are more interested in cities, rural areas or vacation/resort/beach spots.
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May 2nd, 2004, 02:11 PM
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Here's my latest addition to the advice you have already received.

Days 1-4 NYC

Days 5-6 rent car and drive towards Boston, perhaps stopping at western most part of Cape Cod - your son might like the ocean. Skip Plymouth Rock (even if you get other suggestions) - it is just a large rock in a mesh wire cage.

Days 7-9 Boston

Days 9-10 Drive to and see Niagara Falls

Days 10-11 Brief visit to Toronto and fly home from Toronto.

That gives you one extra day to add someplace else along the way. This is just a rough framework of a trip - you can make stops along the way to see other things, depending on your interests,

If you want to have an interesting 12 days and don't want to spend the whole time in the car, see if there is anyway to not make it a RT out of NYC.

By now you have received over 20 very different replies and are probably hoping you could just stay home!
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May 2nd, 2004, 02:12 PM
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I'm glad Tandoori Girl mentioned Niagara on the Lake. It is a lovely town, and if you're interested in wine, you can tour the Hillebrand Winery there. They have some very good wines.
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May 2nd, 2004, 04:15 PM
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Willi, have you already bought this package? An air/hotel package is rarely economical for 3 in a room. A triple room doesn't usually cost 30% more than a double yet that's what you will pay. Also, I agree you'd be better off flying in & out of 2 different cities-whether that's Toronto or Boston or Washington. You're getting bad advice from the agent. You shouldn't have to back track. It might even be cheaper to fly into Toronto, see Niagara Falls, then fly to NY. What's the price of the package & what hotel does it include in NYC?

It is true you're better off reserving a car ahead of time.
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May 2nd, 2004, 05:03 PM
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To Anonymous: You are correct. I did a little googling myself, and as it turns out, Niagara Falls is not listed in the top 7 wonders of the world. However, along with a few other places, it is considered one of the natural wonders of the world. Thanks for straightening me out on that one!!!

And Willi, I think a lot of the posters are forgetting that you mentioned traveling with your 16 year old son. Places like Niagara Falls and Toronto, or New York, or Boston, etc. will be exciting for all of you. I can't help but think your son will be bored with some of the places in New England (or Niagara on the Lake if you choose to see Niagara Falls).
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I learned something tonight. I've lived all of my life in Buffalo and Niagara Falls has always been advertised as one of the 7 Wonders of the World. I'm very surprised to see that it is not. Willi, if you go to Niagara Falls I would suggest also including Toronto. There is lots to do and see there for your 16 year old.
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May 5th, 2004, 05:22 AM
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Willi- Gail has given you the best advice. Try to change your flight plans to fly into NYC and out of Toronto. You will have a much more pleasant trip. The drive from Niagra Falls to NYC is very long. Doing it twice (there and back)is not a good idea. Definitely go to Niagra Falls and go on both the US and Canadian sides and take the tour that goes behind the Falls and go on the Maid of the Mist too. Have fun trip.
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May 5th, 2004, 06:05 AM
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Niagara Falls is a lot of fun. Riding the Maid of the Mist is a MUST DO! The Cave of the Winds is fun too! These are both on the Canadian side of the border, so make sure your passport is on you. The New York side of the falls is not as impressive, so you MUST go to the Canadian side to get the full experience. I think there is an amusement park not too far from the falls that your son might like. The falls can be done in one day (there's also a butterfly place there and beautiful grounds, they're building an expensive casino too), so you may want to discover Toronto and/or Montreal, then head down 87 to Lake Placid (olympic village), Lake George(lake and amusement park for your son), Saratoga (quaint downtown Horseracing and Dance Museum) and back to NYC as another poster suggested! If you've dreamed of seeing the falls, do it! Take the NYS thruway there (90 west) without stopping and then follow the scenic route back. Have a great time!
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May 5th, 2004, 02:17 PM
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Thank you for good advice. We will stick to our plan of visiting Niagara Falls, but will also take trip to Toronto, as so many have suggested. Then we will drive down to Washington D.C. and stay in that area before we return to NYC.

And now I have an additional question (a long one...only for those who are interested in reading a story abot may grandfather....)- He lived in US for almost 20 years before he went back to Norway where he met my grandmother. He was an engineer, working for different railway-companies in US, among them Southern Pacific and Erie Railways(where he also was a teacher at the apprentice school in Meadville). He volunteered for the US Army in World War one and was educated/prepared for the service at Camp Devens, Mass. He was then sent to Belgium/France (Ypres) in 1917. During the time he was there, he constructed a new/made an improvement of the respirator-mask which was in use against the poison gas. His model (prototype) was approved, but due to the sudden end of the war, it was not set into production. According to the written information he left behind for us to read, his respirator model was taken to Washington D.C. and kept as a ?peculiarity? of the war in the archives of the chemical wardep.
This is of course ages ago ? but maybe it still exists ..?

And then to the question does anybody know if it would be worthwhile at all trying to trace this item, and if so, how to do it/where to begin ?
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May 5th, 2004, 02:53 PM
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Well, there's no hope of finding it if it's still with the Department of Defense. But you might try contacting the Smithsonian Institution, which is considered "the nation's attic." Start at
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May 5th, 2004, 07:43 PM
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I agree with Peggy, her characterization of Pisa was right on. Niagara Falls is a very quick trip you see it and thats it. If you are coming from Norway I think it would be a shame if you didn't do D.C. so much to do and see and within a few hours of New York. Boston is okay and has something to offer but not nearly as much as D.C.
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May 6th, 2004, 02:05 PM
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Thank you Anonymous, I guess you are right about the Department of Defense. I will as a first step follow your recommendation and send an e-mail to the Smithsonian Institution. If I'm lucky, they will respond and give me further advice.
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