Relocating to the Deep South
Nov 21st, 2015, 06:26 AM
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Dukey, be careful. Folks above are going to take you to task for calling Florida the Deep South. 
"IMO there are so many other, and more important issues, to worry about when moving just about anywhere than this one."
Amen to that!
Thursday, I have no words. You hate where you live and warn travelers away from it. In summer, walking to the mailbox and back is too much of a hardship. Yet, other folks in your city get out and enjoy the great outdoors - even in summer. I've shared my POV re an invitation to join a new resident to church = a polite invitation. You've made it clear that it's a rude intrusion and offensive. Not sure what the point would be for continuing to go back and forth on that.
Lilah has learned, via this thread, that summers can be hot and humid and folks may dare invite her to church. Danger, Will Robinson! LOL!
Good luck, Lilah. Kudos to you for your adventurous spirit!
"IMO there are so many other, and more important issues, to worry about when moving just about anywhere than this one."
Amen to that!
Thursday, I have no words. You hate where you live and warn travelers away from it. In summer, walking to the mailbox and back is too much of a hardship. Yet, other folks in your city get out and enjoy the great outdoors - even in summer. I've shared my POV re an invitation to join a new resident to church = a polite invitation. You've made it clear that it's a rude intrusion and offensive. Not sure what the point would be for continuing to go back and forth on that.
Lilah has learned, via this thread, that summers can be hot and humid and folks may dare invite her to church. Danger, Will Robinson! LOL!
Good luck, Lilah. Kudos to you for your adventurous spirit!
Nov 21st, 2015, 06:35 AM
#82
@starrs - I am issuing a polite invitation for you to consider, just for five minutes, that I (and kybourbon) am right about the church invitation and you are wrong. Let a new thought in. No need to report back.
@Dukey1 - starrs is right about one thing, I was wondering whether Florida, aside from the panhandle, could be considered the Deep South, especially the northern Cuba part, lol.
@Dukey1 - starrs is right about one thing, I was wondering whether Florida, aside from the panhandle, could be considered the Deep South, especially the northern Cuba part, lol.
Nov 21st, 2015, 06:46 AM
#83
And I invite you to consider the possibility that YOUR posts are far more insulting to the listener than a simple invitation to join a new friend at their church.
"I found Unitarian-Universalism to be a good solution. Much better than Catholicism!"
" You also appear to be proselytizing/recruiting, excessively annoying activities that put you on a par with the Jehovah's Witness or Mormon on my doorstep "
"And if you happen not to be a Southern Baptist, or indeed any kind of Christian"
I am not Catholic, Jehovah Witness, Mormon nor Baptist but if I were, I'd be offended by your ranting against them on this thread.
We get it. You are horribly offended by anyone who would dare invite you to join them at their church. You've made that perfectly clear - as I'm sure you would if anyone dared do that to you in person.
Lilah has been warned. Thanks for covering that vital bit of information she should consider if she decides to move to the "Deep South".
"I found Unitarian-Universalism to be a good solution. Much better than Catholicism!"
" You also appear to be proselytizing/recruiting, excessively annoying activities that put you on a par with the Jehovah's Witness or Mormon on my doorstep "
"And if you happen not to be a Southern Baptist, or indeed any kind of Christian"
I am not Catholic, Jehovah Witness, Mormon nor Baptist but if I were, I'd be offended by your ranting against them on this thread.
We get it. You are horribly offended by anyone who would dare invite you to join them at their church. You've made that perfectly clear - as I'm sure you would if anyone dared do that to you in person.
Lilah has been warned. Thanks for covering that vital bit of information she should consider if she decides to move to the "Deep South".
Nov 21st, 2015, 07:01 AM
#84
Wow, talk about going overboard. You have a very strange definition of ranting. Don't worry - I will quit beating my head against a brick wall.
For the record, I could care less about your religion or lack thereof. I have nothing against Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons except when they show up on my doorstep. I just object to people who can't keep their religion to themselves - and especially those who require other people to live according to their moral code.
For the record, I could care less about your religion or lack thereof. I have nothing against Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons except when they show up on my doorstep. I just object to people who can't keep their religion to themselves - and especially those who require other people to live according to their moral code.
Nov 21st, 2015, 10:12 AM
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I imagine even most non-Christians are familiar with some version of Matthew 28:19, so my first question would be, how does a church that "doesn't have a recruiting process" call itself Christian? Or does it? And if it does, how would anyone who belongs to that church not understand that an inviting someone else to attend would not be perceived as proselytizing?
Nov 21st, 2015, 10:35 AM
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There was nothing worse then at a born again friends funeral, when towards the end of the ceremony the pastor took 5 minutes out to invite the mourners to join his church and accept the lord Jesus into their hearts.
Nov 21st, 2015, 10:42 AM
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@Inakauaidavidababy - reminds me of the funeral for my ex-step-daughter's mother-in-law. The entire sermon was about how pleased the preacher was that the deceased had been "saved" and was going to heaven and how worried he was about those in the congregation that had not been "saved" and were going to hell. There was rather more of the latter than the former.
Nov 21st, 2015, 11:27 AM
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How is your profiling Southern Babtists and Pentacostals alright? While calling out others? Seems like you blinked.
I felt betrayed in Hawaii when I was approached by a local. I thought she was offering true aloha and concern to me. Once we had talked for 5 minutes she pulled out her religious propaganda and invited me to join her church. I hate that false friendliness in search of fattening up the flock.
I felt betrayed in Hawaii when I was approached by a local. I thought she was offering true aloha and concern to me. Once we had talked for 5 minutes she pulled out her religious propaganda and invited me to join her church. I hate that false friendliness in search of fattening up the flock.
Nov 21st, 2015, 11:33 AM
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@starrs thank you for the laughs 
"Lilah has learned, via this thread, that summers can be hot and humid and folks may dare invite her to church. Danger, Will Robinson! LOL!" This is 100% accurate.
Not that my faith matters in any way but an invitation to church does not offend me in the least. I am well aware of "Deep South" stereotypes and look forward to learning first hand which ones are true and which ones aren't. I don't mind invitations anywhere and if I can accept, I will.
I appreciate everyone's view points on all things deep south! I should've mentioned in my earlier post that I have family friends who live in Northern Mississippi and a best friend who lives on Fort Benning in Georgia. I believe my initial move will be to Atlanta, GA and then I'll move on from there.
I am truly grateful for everyone's sincere and sound advice and opinions!
"Lilah has learned, via this thread, that summers can be hot and humid and folks may dare invite her to church. Danger, Will Robinson! LOL!" This is 100% accurate.Not that my faith matters in any way but an invitation to church does not offend me in the least. I am well aware of "Deep South" stereotypes and look forward to learning first hand which ones are true and which ones aren't. I don't mind invitations anywhere and if I can accept, I will.
I appreciate everyone's view points on all things deep south! I should've mentioned in my earlier post that I have family friends who live in Northern Mississippi and a best friend who lives on Fort Benning in Georgia. I believe my initial move will be to Atlanta, GA and then I'll move on from there.
I am truly grateful for everyone's sincere and sound advice and opinions!
Nov 21st, 2015, 11:48 AM
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"Not that my faith matters in any way but an invitation to church does not offend me in the least. I am well aware of "Deep South" stereotypes and look forward to learning first hand which ones are true and which ones aren't. I don't mind invitations anywhere and if I can accept, I will. "
Good for you!
"I believe my initial move will be to Atlanta, GA and then I'll move on from there."
Then definitely check out the Emory and Piedmont links above for job opportunities. You can't go wrong with either.
If you do head for Atlanta, give me a shout if you have any questions. Happy travels!
Good for you!
"I believe my initial move will be to Atlanta, GA and then I'll move on from there."
Then definitely check out the Emory and Piedmont links above for job opportunities. You can't go wrong with either.
If you do head for Atlanta, give me a shout if you have any questions. Happy travels!
Nov 21st, 2015, 11:54 AM
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Oh, and if you like hymns and beer you can join some fun folks once a month in Midtown. No church involved, although lots of different denominations represented as they...well, drink beer and sing hymns.
Google Atlanta beer and hymns.
Google Atlanta beer and hymns.
Nov 21st, 2015, 12:19 PM
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Well Lilah AB, first of all, good for you for having the fortitude to save and be prepared for whatever happens. That's good planning and shows that you aren't heading into this on a whim.
I think its become apparent that the current opinions of what constitutes the "Deep South" can be very diverse; primarily because so much of what most of us think of as "the deep South" was previously viewed as a place to avoid rather than to be embraced and so the culture has tried to shift to be more 'acceptable'. Too bad, in my opinion, but that's another thread. If you want to really experience the south, then the larger cities like Birmingham and Atlanta will not give you the experience you seek, in my opinion- those towns have become too focused on advancing to that level of acceptability and lost much of their former Southern Charm.
It seems that most folks would encourage you to live in or near a large city in order to find the environment that you are presumed to be more accustomed to, but if you want to live in and experience Southern culture, then I would recommend a rural setting, or at least a small town.
Someone mentioned Greenville, SC- and that is a very nice small town with much to offer. Being the home of a small university provides a lot of cultural experiences for town residents, and frankly I've found Greenville to be far ahead of the game in terms of being a "forward-thinking" city. Also, because it is a college town, you are more likely to find young people with whom you can socialize and who are likely to be more like-minded. It would deserve a look, in my opinion. Oh, and its location in the "up state" would put you in great proximity to lots of opportunities for "outdoorsy" activities, if you are so inclined.
Even more in the realm of "Deep South" culture, to my way of thinking anyway, would be somewhere like Oxford, MS which is very small, or Auburn, AL, which has a well-known university but still is seated in its rural Southern heritage...except that they did finally get a WalMart which nearly broke my heart....! I do think that somewhere with a college will help you in providing a younger population that will provide you with opportunities to socialize with folks close to your age- you did say you are "younger".
I would be cautious about leaning to retirement havens as I've found that young people get bored and lonely with few "things to do" outside of work.
Asheville, NC is a lovely city and offers much in the way of cultural arts and a friendly ambience; its growing and has a lot of good qualities. And it hasn't lost its southern charm, to me.
Greenville, NC is a possibility for its healthcare job availability if nothing else. Greenville is getting a little edgy, though, and even with ECU right there , and they have a wonderful cultural arts program that offers much to the community, friends who are there are thinking
that it may be time to move on. I think the influence of that rapper guy leaked too far into the city culture and has wrecked it for a lot of people.
Hickory, NC is another very small town that may interest you- progressive yet still holding on to its small roots.
I like both Charleston and Savannah very much, and I personally enjoy visiting either, but I have to say that I don't think I would care to live in either- I have a healthy skepticism about cities where the economy is driven primarily by tourism.
Some of the southern Louisiana parishes might appeal to your interest as well. Bayou country is certainly "Deep South" in anyone's frame of reference, and it would be a very interesting cultural shift for you; even New Orleans could be lots of fun if its not too urban for your interest. New Orleans may not fit your idea of "Deep South", however as the French and Cajun influences run deep.
I realize that this is somewhat rambling, and I apologize for that, but I thought it might help to have some town names to investigate- certainly in no particular order, but just within my frame of reference. I think that if you look toward towns with a rich history of either cotton, tobacco or rice culture, you will find the essence you are looking for.
I think its become apparent that the current opinions of what constitutes the "Deep South" can be very diverse; primarily because so much of what most of us think of as "the deep South" was previously viewed as a place to avoid rather than to be embraced and so the culture has tried to shift to be more 'acceptable'. Too bad, in my opinion, but that's another thread. If you want to really experience the south, then the larger cities like Birmingham and Atlanta will not give you the experience you seek, in my opinion- those towns have become too focused on advancing to that level of acceptability and lost much of their former Southern Charm.
It seems that most folks would encourage you to live in or near a large city in order to find the environment that you are presumed to be more accustomed to, but if you want to live in and experience Southern culture, then I would recommend a rural setting, or at least a small town.
Someone mentioned Greenville, SC- and that is a very nice small town with much to offer. Being the home of a small university provides a lot of cultural experiences for town residents, and frankly I've found Greenville to be far ahead of the game in terms of being a "forward-thinking" city. Also, because it is a college town, you are more likely to find young people with whom you can socialize and who are likely to be more like-minded. It would deserve a look, in my opinion. Oh, and its location in the "up state" would put you in great proximity to lots of opportunities for "outdoorsy" activities, if you are so inclined.
Even more in the realm of "Deep South" culture, to my way of thinking anyway, would be somewhere like Oxford, MS which is very small, or Auburn, AL, which has a well-known university but still is seated in its rural Southern heritage...except that they did finally get a WalMart which nearly broke my heart....! I do think that somewhere with a college will help you in providing a younger population that will provide you with opportunities to socialize with folks close to your age- you did say you are "younger".
I would be cautious about leaning to retirement havens as I've found that young people get bored and lonely with few "things to do" outside of work.
Asheville, NC is a lovely city and offers much in the way of cultural arts and a friendly ambience; its growing and has a lot of good qualities. And it hasn't lost its southern charm, to me.
Greenville, NC is a possibility for its healthcare job availability if nothing else. Greenville is getting a little edgy, though, and even with ECU right there , and they have a wonderful cultural arts program that offers much to the community, friends who are there are thinking
that it may be time to move on. I think the influence of that rapper guy leaked too far into the city culture and has wrecked it for a lot of people.
Hickory, NC is another very small town that may interest you- progressive yet still holding on to its small roots.
I like both Charleston and Savannah very much, and I personally enjoy visiting either, but I have to say that I don't think I would care to live in either- I have a healthy skepticism about cities where the economy is driven primarily by tourism.
Some of the southern Louisiana parishes might appeal to your interest as well. Bayou country is certainly "Deep South" in anyone's frame of reference, and it would be a very interesting cultural shift for you; even New Orleans could be lots of fun if its not too urban for your interest. New Orleans may not fit your idea of "Deep South", however as the French and Cajun influences run deep.
I realize that this is somewhat rambling, and I apologize for that, but I thought it might help to have some town names to investigate- certainly in no particular order, but just within my frame of reference. I think that if you look toward towns with a rich history of either cotton, tobacco or rice culture, you will find the essence you are looking for.
