Rattlesnake Burgers on Oahu?
Belle
May 14th, 2005, 08:47 AM
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Funny, Mr. Budman! 
This OldSouthernBelle has actually done some "skin'in" in her younger years, but I've never done a snake! Guess I've gotten lazy over the years...I even "catch and release" fish now! 
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This OldSouthernBelle has actually done some "skin'in" in her younger years, but I've never done a snake! Guess I've gotten lazy over the years...I even "catch and release" fish now! Belle.
May 14th, 2005, 09:26 AM
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The only place to find snakes in Hawaii is at the Honolulu Zoo. As Lcuy says there is the Hawaiian snake but it is a small worm looking blind creature that you rarely see even if you look for it. Yes, someone is jerking your husbands chain.
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May 14th, 2005, 12:52 PM
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I know what he's talking about! When we used to go there every year, there was this little wooden restaurant on the highway close to the pipeline that advertised rattlesnake burgers. My husband and I stopped there once and had chili con queso, I think. It seems like the last time we were there, though, that it was no longer open, or no longer the same, anyway.
Oh, look, I just found it on the web: Paniolo Cafe -- this article even mentions the rattlesnake meat. But alas, it's no longer open. http://www.hawaii.rr.com/leisure/rev...marchers12.htm.
So they weren't yanking his chain, after all!
Oh, look, I just found it on the web: Paniolo Cafe -- this article even mentions the rattlesnake meat. But alas, it's no longer open. http://www.hawaii.rr.com/leisure/rev...marchers12.htm.
So they weren't yanking his chain, after all!
May 20th, 2005, 11:39 PM
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I can't believe that iceeu2, lcuy, and chepar had lunch with me on 5/17 and did not raise this subject.
lcuy, you honor me with your speculation.
I did visit the Paniolo Cafe in the 1990's, I did order the rattlesnake chili, and yes, it did taste like chicken.
Paniolo Cafe closed in 1996 and was succeeded by Ahi's. This is what columnist Rick Carroll had to say:
"The old cowboy hat's all that's left over from the time when Ahi's used to be the Texas Paniolo Cafe, a roadside juke joint full of bad characters who stomped and hooted to country and western music on Saturday night.
The Paniolo was run by a French sailor who hit the reef on the return leg from Tahiti aboard his ketch, and washed ashore at Kahana Bay. He stepped into somebody else's broken dream and tried to set it straight but it didn't work. The place went downhill faster than ripe breadfruit in Palolo. Too pugnacious for Punalu'u, he always had a black eye and a red wine hangover.
When Ahi took over the Paniolo Cafe, the place was dull as a brown aloha shirt from Reyn's. Inside, it smelled like stale beer and smoke. The ceiling was plastered with Hank Williams concert posters. The walls had photos of long gone cowboys riding long horn bulls.
Old bales of hay, strands of barbed wire, rusty spurs, crumbly leather lariats, and fly specked 10-gallon hats rounded up the wrangler theme. Amazing what ends up in the middle of the Pacific.
The Paniolo menu featured rattlesnake steak, armadillo stew, country ribs and baked beans, fried chicken and mashed potatoes with brown gravy and white bread. Beer came in quart-size Mason jars, with wire snap top and orange rubber seal. The big Samoan bruddahs from BYU sucked 'em up on Saturday nights, sang "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights" at the top of their lungs, and wouldn't go home at closing time.
The only bright spot in the joint was the plantation-era red and white palaka print table cloths which a few old-timers like Bob Krauss still wear for shirts. I never understood why. Who wants any reminder of plantation days? You never saw Iz in palaka.
I thought the Paniolo was too cornball even for kitschy Hawaii, but folks loved it, especially Japanese tourists, but they like Tucson, too."
The closing note, of course, is that iceeu2 and lcuy went the extra step and had Chinese dim sum "chicken paws", as they are referred to in the southern United States, and are now confirmed and official Chinese Gourmands as witnessed by the Grand Poobah of Chinese Food in Hawaii, me. For those who need visual confirmation, digital images are available.
lcuy, you honor me with your speculation.
I did visit the Paniolo Cafe in the 1990's, I did order the rattlesnake chili, and yes, it did taste like chicken.
Paniolo Cafe closed in 1996 and was succeeded by Ahi's. This is what columnist Rick Carroll had to say:
"The old cowboy hat's all that's left over from the time when Ahi's used to be the Texas Paniolo Cafe, a roadside juke joint full of bad characters who stomped and hooted to country and western music on Saturday night.
The Paniolo was run by a French sailor who hit the reef on the return leg from Tahiti aboard his ketch, and washed ashore at Kahana Bay. He stepped into somebody else's broken dream and tried to set it straight but it didn't work. The place went downhill faster than ripe breadfruit in Palolo. Too pugnacious for Punalu'u, he always had a black eye and a red wine hangover.
When Ahi took over the Paniolo Cafe, the place was dull as a brown aloha shirt from Reyn's. Inside, it smelled like stale beer and smoke. The ceiling was plastered with Hank Williams concert posters. The walls had photos of long gone cowboys riding long horn bulls.
Old bales of hay, strands of barbed wire, rusty spurs, crumbly leather lariats, and fly specked 10-gallon hats rounded up the wrangler theme. Amazing what ends up in the middle of the Pacific.
The Paniolo menu featured rattlesnake steak, armadillo stew, country ribs and baked beans, fried chicken and mashed potatoes with brown gravy and white bread. Beer came in quart-size Mason jars, with wire snap top and orange rubber seal. The big Samoan bruddahs from BYU sucked 'em up on Saturday nights, sang "Wasted Days and Wasted Nights" at the top of their lungs, and wouldn't go home at closing time.
The only bright spot in the joint was the plantation-era red and white palaka print table cloths which a few old-timers like Bob Krauss still wear for shirts. I never understood why. Who wants any reminder of plantation days? You never saw Iz in palaka.
I thought the Paniolo was too cornball even for kitschy Hawaii, but folks loved it, especially Japanese tourists, but they like Tucson, too."
The closing note, of course, is that iceeu2 and lcuy went the extra step and had Chinese dim sum "chicken paws", as they are referred to in the southern United States, and are now confirmed and official Chinese Gourmands as witnessed by the Grand Poobah of Chinese Food in Hawaii, me. For those who need visual confirmation, digital images are available.
Jun 3rd, 2005, 09:17 AM
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PakePorkChop: Excuse me, but I live LA (Lower Alabama)
, about as Southern as you can get, and though I've heard of eating pickled pig's 
feet/lips/intestines (chitterlings UGH 
amp;!), I've NEVER heard of eating chicken feet!!~gt; More importantly, never heard of them referred to as "paws"??!
My grandfather had an egg farm when I was a kid, and from what I've seen of chicken's feet, I don't think I'd EVER want one to touch this kisser!
...and FYI, armadillo's have been said to carry leprosy...You won't catch me at that rodeo!
Now, explain to us what a laugh you get convincing poor, unsuspecting tourists to do such acts!
...but, I must confess, that rattlesnake, I'm alittle curious about...Belle.
, about as Southern as you can get, and though I've heard of eating pickled pig's feet/lips/intestines (chitterlings UGH amp;!), I've NEVER heard of eating chicken feet!!~gt; More importantly, never heard of them referred to as "paws"??!My grandfather had an egg farm when I was a kid, and from what I've seen of chicken's feet, I don't think I'd EVER want one to touch this kisser!
...and FYI, armadillo's have been said to carry leprosy...You won't catch me at that rodeo!
Now, explain to us what a laugh you get convincing poor, unsuspecting tourists to do such acts!
...but, I must confess, that rattlesnake, I'm alittle curious about...Belle.
Jun 3rd, 2005, 04:13 PM
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iceeu2: I have been remiss in complimenting you on your trip reports and wonderful photos!!
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I review the HI forum alomost nightly! Have been keeping up with all your posted cavorting around! Am quite jealous!
You seem like such fun people, wish I could have been there!
Hope to have my own dim sum in china town in July (that is if PakePorkChop didn't take offense of my earlier post)
- Belle
.I review the HI forum alomost nightly! Have been keeping up with all your posted cavorting around! Am quite jealous!
You seem like such fun people, wish I could have been there!
Hope to have my own dim sum in china town in July (that is if PakePorkChop didn't take offense of my earlier post)
- Belle
Jun 4th, 2005, 12:43 PM
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Southern Belle, it would be a privilege and honor for me to accompany a fellow Southerner to a meal in Chinatown.
If you go to the Homepage of the Southern United States Trade Association, you will see a reference to the "chicken paw" trade.
This from the Manila Times:
"The Asian Wall Street Journal had in its March 5 issue an informative and amusing report on the trade in chicken feet, or chicken paws as they’re called in the US.
We knew that the Chinese love chicken feet, but we were not prepared for the extent of their longing for paws.
Chicken feet are among the few items that China imports from the US. They’re more than a blip in the trade accounts of both countries. In figuring out the trade gap, chicken feet leave an impression.
In 2003 the People’s Republic of China bought $310 million worth of American poultry of which 43 percent was chicken feet. Also last year the paws of an estimated four billion chickens found their way—steamed, pickled, or salted—to dinner tables from Hong Kong to Harbin.
For the poultry industry of the US, chicken limbs are a perfect export product. They don’t eat ’em in Alabama, the Journal said, but in China they eat them “like onion rings,” to quote Brant Locklier, an Alabaman who looks after the affairs of Perdue China from Shanghai.
In 2001 China bought 283,500 metric tons of chicken feet."
If you go to the Homepage of the Southern United States Trade Association, you will see a reference to the "chicken paw" trade.
This from the Manila Times:
"The Asian Wall Street Journal had in its March 5 issue an informative and amusing report on the trade in chicken feet, or chicken paws as they’re called in the US.
We knew that the Chinese love chicken feet, but we were not prepared for the extent of their longing for paws.
Chicken feet are among the few items that China imports from the US. They’re more than a blip in the trade accounts of both countries. In figuring out the trade gap, chicken feet leave an impression.
In 2003 the People’s Republic of China bought $310 million worth of American poultry of which 43 percent was chicken feet. Also last year the paws of an estimated four billion chickens found their way—steamed, pickled, or salted—to dinner tables from Hong Kong to Harbin.
For the poultry industry of the US, chicken limbs are a perfect export product. They don’t eat ’em in Alabama, the Journal said, but in China they eat them “like onion rings,” to quote Brant Locklier, an Alabaman who looks after the affairs of Perdue China from Shanghai.
In 2001 China bought 283,500 metric tons of chicken feet."
Jun 4th, 2005, 02:10 PM
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PakePorkChop:
I did a google to find the term 'chicken paws' and ...well, I believe an imported Yankee must have come up with THAT term!
No one in 'my neck of the woods' has ever heard of it! And, yes, we have plenty of chicken farms around here, although, they seem proudest of their peanuts!
DH wants to know if they eat turkey 'paws' as well? Is there a market for deer paws? or deer tails? I think he may want to get in on this action!:-?
Anyhoo, I appreciate your gracious indulgence and do plan to take you up on the dim sum tour offer! Still haven't nailed down our schedule as yet, but will check with you as soon as I know! Mahalo! Belle.
I did a google to find the term 'chicken paws' and ...well, I believe an imported Yankee must have come up with THAT term!
No one in 'my neck of the woods' has ever heard of it! And, yes, we have plenty of chicken farms around here, although, they seem proudest of their peanuts!
DH wants to know if they eat turkey 'paws' as well? Is there a market for deer paws? or deer tails? I think he may want to get in on this action!:-?
Anyhoo, I appreciate your gracious indulgence and do plan to take you up on the dim sum tour offer! Still haven't nailed down our schedule as yet, but will check with you as soon as I know! Mahalo! Belle.
Jun 4th, 2005, 04:45 PM
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We are certainly going to have some fun with you'all.
Fust, the furthest north you'all will have to go to find the term "chicken paws" is north Georgia, as it is a chicken processing term and not a chicken farming term.
Now, when you'll come into Honolulu, we can take a look at all of the exotics, including white mountain phoenix claws
(chicken paws), duck webs, turkey tails, beef achille's tendons, and duck tongues.
For some reason, there is no recipe for turkey feet. I'll have to look into that...
Fust, the furthest north you'all will have to go to find the term "chicken paws" is north Georgia, as it is a chicken processing term and not a chicken farming term.
Now, when you'll come into Honolulu, we can take a look at all of the exotics, including white mountain phoenix claws
(chicken paws), duck webs, turkey tails, beef achille's tendons, and duck tongues.
For some reason, there is no recipe for turkey feet. I'll have to look into that...
Jun 4th, 2005, 07:58 PM
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Ah stan' kerrekted! Ii's the Boston missionary trainin' that ruin't a perfectly good Southern American Hawaiian drawl.
In any case, Ah looked into the mattah and it seems cleah to me that Tuhkey feet is too boney foh dim sum. Believe it or not, there is a little pad of fat and flesh around the ankle of the chicken that makes it "ta-us-ty" and worth at least $170 MILLION to the US of A each yeah!
Looking forward to your visit!
In any case, Ah looked into the mattah and it seems cleah to me that Tuhkey feet is too boney foh dim sum. Believe it or not, there is a little pad of fat and flesh around the ankle of the chicken that makes it "ta-us-ty" and worth at least $170 MILLION to the US of A each yeah!
Looking forward to your visit!
Jun 5th, 2005, 10:20 AM
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iceeu2: We live in So. East AL. Called the 'Wiregrass', only a few miles from both GA and FL. Yes, we have Perdue (and others) processing plants in our area too...I guess if you have the chicken farms, the plants follow.
Our trip is planned for July. I'm SOooo excited!!
PPC: You may have required alittle genteel correction on the pronunciation of "ya'll", but you thoroughly redeemed yourself with the use of the word "ruin't"! Ha!
Yes, we have Perdue (and others) processing plants in our area too...I guess if you have the chicken farms, the plants follow.
I'm VERY pleased to learn that the US is actually EXPORTING something to China (nice change!)
, and it IS amusing that it's chicken feet (Oops! I mean, paws!).
Now, tell me where they import the duck tongues from??AFLAC?
Belle.
Our trip is planned for July. I'm SOooo excited!!
PPC: You may have required alittle genteel correction on the pronunciation of "ya'll", but you thoroughly redeemed yourself with the use of the word "ruin't"! Ha!
Yes, we have Perdue (and others) processing plants in our area too...I guess if you have the chicken farms, the plants follow.
I'm VERY pleased to learn that the US is actually EXPORTING something to China (nice change!)
, and it IS amusing that it's chicken feet (Oops! I mean, paws!). Now, tell me where they import the duck tongues from??AFLAC?
Belle.
