New York holiday apartment needed
Jan 15th, 2012, 09:49 AM
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I wasn't able to determine that it's a single family residence. How did you determine that, nytraveler?
If it is, it's a beautiful choice.
This gorgeous is expensive.
Why is the nightly rate budget priced?
If it is, it's a beautiful choice.
This gorgeous is expensive.
Why is the nightly rate budget priced?
Jan 15th, 2012, 10:58 AM
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The answer is that the average visitor can't know this. that's why the average visitor should stick to suites in the hotels recommended.
There are a ton of scams out there and a very limited number of privately owned houses (as opposed to those zoned as multi-family buildings) and finding one is extremely difficult,
There are a ton of scams out there and a very limited number of privately owned houses (as opposed to those zoned as multi-family buildings) and finding one is extremely difficult,
Jan 15th, 2012, 11:12 AM
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As I understand it, the law applies to multi-family residences in ClassA. This is a single family home. I am not a lawyer and I am not an expert, since I live here.
From the NYTimes:
<Q. I live in a Park Slope brownstone on a street zoned for residential use. My neighbor advertises his apartment on a vacation rental Web site, and as a result we find ourselves living next to a de facto short-stay hotel. I know of the new law prohibiting rentals of less than 30 days that will apply to large buildings, but what is the legality of these rentals in smaller structures, and what protections are available to us, as neighbors?
A. “We do take this issue seriously,” said Ryan Meredith FitzGibbon, a spokeswoman for the city’s Buildings Department.
The state law, passed last summer, that the reader refers to didn’t change the rental rules, but it gave the city more power to enforce them, she said.
The minimum allowable rental period for an apartment, Ms. FitzGibbon explained, depends not on the building’s height or size, but on a set of rules based on the type of unit — Class A or Class B — that was originally listed in the building plan. Most regular apartments are Class A; Class B includes single-room occupancy buildings and some other types. In rare cases, a building might have both Class A and Class B apartments.
Class B apartments may be rented for less than 30 days; rentals on Class A apartments must be 30 days or more. Renting a Class A apartment for less than 30 days is the most common type of rental violation, Ms. FitzGibbon said.
So, how to tell which is which? On the Buildings Department’s Web site (nyc.gov/buildings), people can use the computerized Buildings Information System to view a particular building’s certificate of occupancy, which will reveal its classification. Or they can visit the department’s borough office. If you believe a violation is occurring, call 311 and the Buildings Department will send an inspector, Ms. FitzGibbon said.>
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/download...hapter_225.pdf
From the NYTimes:
<Q. I live in a Park Slope brownstone on a street zoned for residential use. My neighbor advertises his apartment on a vacation rental Web site, and as a result we find ourselves living next to a de facto short-stay hotel. I know of the new law prohibiting rentals of less than 30 days that will apply to large buildings, but what is the legality of these rentals in smaller structures, and what protections are available to us, as neighbors?
A. “We do take this issue seriously,” said Ryan Meredith FitzGibbon, a spokeswoman for the city’s Buildings Department.
The state law, passed last summer, that the reader refers to didn’t change the rental rules, but it gave the city more power to enforce them, she said.
The minimum allowable rental period for an apartment, Ms. FitzGibbon explained, depends not on the building’s height or size, but on a set of rules based on the type of unit — Class A or Class B — that was originally listed in the building plan. Most regular apartments are Class A; Class B includes single-room occupancy buildings and some other types. In rare cases, a building might have both Class A and Class B apartments.
Class B apartments may be rented for less than 30 days; rentals on Class A apartments must be 30 days or more. Renting a Class A apartment for less than 30 days is the most common type of rental violation, Ms. FitzGibbon said.
So, how to tell which is which? On the Buildings Department’s Web site (nyc.gov/buildings), people can use the computerized Buildings Information System to view a particular building’s certificate of occupancy, which will reveal its classification. Or they can visit the department’s borough office. If you believe a violation is occurring, call 311 and the Buildings Department will send an inspector, Ms. FitzGibbon said.>
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dob/download...hapter_225.pdf
Jan 15th, 2012, 12:57 PM
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Here is some further information that may be of interest:
http://www.frommers.com/articles/6918.html
http://www.frommers.com/articles/6918.html
Jan 15th, 2012, 02:31 PM
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No good deed goes unpunished, huh ekscrunchy?
My client's daughter owns a brownstone and rents out the old nanny apt by the week. They have verified that it is legal with the powers that be. Unfortunately, they only rent to friends of friends.
From the frommers article, it appears that the key is if the owners live in the building.
My client's daughter owns a brownstone and rents out the old nanny apt by the week. They have verified that it is legal with the powers that be. Unfortunately, they only rent to friends of friends.
From the frommers article, it appears that the key is if the owners live in the building.
Jan 15th, 2012, 03:17 PM
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FYI http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...nt-rentals.cfm
From what I understand, the owners living in the same apartment and just renting out a room (not another apt in the same building) may make it legal. Owning the whole building doesn't by itself make it legal.
"The minimum allowable rental period for an apartment, Ms. FitzGibbon explained, depends not on the building’s height or size, but on a set of rules based on the type of unit — Class A or Class B — that was originally listed in the building plan. Most regular apartments are Class A; Class B includes single-room occupancy buildings and some other types. In rare cases, a building might have both Class A and Class B apartments. "
However since enforcement of the law is based on complaints generated, this type of situation makes it less problematic. No neighbors in the building to complain. That does not necessarily make it legal so of course if there are problems with insurance or payment or fire laws etc, there is little recourse.
From what I understand, the owners living in the same apartment and just renting out a room (not another apt in the same building) may make it legal. Owning the whole building doesn't by itself make it legal.
"The minimum allowable rental period for an apartment, Ms. FitzGibbon explained, depends not on the building’s height or size, but on a set of rules based on the type of unit — Class A or Class B — that was originally listed in the building plan. Most regular apartments are Class A; Class B includes single-room occupancy buildings and some other types. In rare cases, a building might have both Class A and Class B apartments. "
However since enforcement of the law is based on complaints generated, this type of situation makes it less problematic. No neighbors in the building to complain. That does not necessarily make it legal so of course if there are problems with insurance or payment or fire laws etc, there is little recourse.
Jan 17th, 2012, 04:29 AM
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Owning the building is meaningless. Landlords own huge buildings and can not do short term rentals. If a building has less than either 3 or 4 apartments ( sorry, forgetting which) it is legal. If the APARTMENT is occupied by the owner WHILE YOUR ARE THERE, that is legal too.
Be aware that NYC police are cracking down on these and you could find it doesn't exist by the time you get to NYC. (or was a scam from the getgo)
Be aware that NYC police are cracking down on these and you could find it doesn't exist by the time you get to NYC. (or was a scam from the getgo)
Jan 20th, 2012, 09:04 AM
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Ekscrunchy, it looks lovely. We are looking for a place for 5 nights in May and will be traveling with our two adult daughters. Renting two even budget-priced hotel rooms is too costly. We have rented apartments in Europe on many occasions and enjoyed it very much. I am satisfied with the legality of the arrangement and having exchanged posts with you in the past, am satisfied that it is not a scam. I have sent off an email to the owners and hope to hear back soon.
PS Where have you traveled recently?
PS Where have you traveled recently?
