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Old Apr 28th, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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Moving across the country

I was wondering if anyone had any good suggestions on how to manage a move across country. Any conservative estimate on how long it will take to drive from Seattle to Southampton NY? Any safety considerations? I will be driving all alone (female). Still debating if I will pull a small trailer or whether I will have my three cats in the car or have flown them there earlier. I was going to just ship my goods and my car and fly with the cats but I am hearing such horror stories about shipping your car it has me quite scared. Advice?
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Old Apr 28th, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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go to freetrip.com for time, distance, routing, and hotels in your price range..
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Old Apr 28th, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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You can check with the airlines, but I doubt they'll let one passenger take 3 cats aboard in the cabin.

There's really no safety concern for driving cross country, unless you're going in winter time. Otherwise, biggest problem is fatigue and falling asleep at the wheel.

Anyways, the distance is about 3,000 miles. I say it's fairly comfortable to do it in 5 days driving solo, and very comfortable in 6.

Now, whether your cats like riding in cars or not - that's another issue.
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Old Apr 28th, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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Drive with the cats, avoiding pulling a trailer if you can. The cats may not be happy, but they will be happier and safer than in a plane - just plan ahead so you can get a pet-friendly hotel.

Depending on time of year, you may have to eat lunch at drive-thrus, etc. to avoid leaving cats in hot car.

Traveling once I saw a car rigged up with some sort of contraption between the front and back seat and several animals, out of carriers, in the back. All sorts of safety issues to at least consider, but I would think most cats would be happier with this arrangment than stuffed into cat carriers.

When moving with pets, another major concern is escape - they become scared, disoriented, etc and may try to flee you car, old home, new home. Movers leave doors open and pets get out. At least make sure they have current tags and collars with contact info for you, but be extremely careful they do not find a way to plan their escape.
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Old Apr 28th, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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5-6 days would work. 4 if you really, really push it (mapquest said 44 hours or so).

How you do it is the tough question. I wouldn't recommend flying with 3 cats, but driving for that long is going to be pretty stressful too. If you drive with them, I'd say take 5 or 6 days. That will give you some extra time each day to let the cats relax.

I drove with my 2 cats from MS coast to northern WI, which was about 20 hours. I did that in about 2 days and kept them in their carriers while I drove. I think it's a bad idea (safetywise) to let them roam while you drive - tried that once and will never do it again. One of my cats decided he would first crawl around under my feet, and then had to get up on the dashboard in front of my face while I was going 70 on the interstate. I can't imagine the havoc 3 cats would create if they're not in a carrier of some sort.

I stopped a few times a day for 10-15 minutes at least, and let them have food/water. I found the water just sloshed out while I drove, so it was pointless to have a bowl in their carrier. Gail's idea about confining them to the back seat sounds sorta OK, but if you get in an accident they'd become little projectiles and crash into the divider. Plus, they will have to sit in the back window at some point, and almost certainly will try to climb around on the divider, try to crawl under the seats, etc. I think it's safer and easier to keep them in carriers and just let them roam a bit every few hours. It'll slow you down, but there's no way around it.
 
Old Apr 28th, 2006 | 06:40 PM
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5 days did it for us with the dog in the back seat, stopping early each evening, while it was still light and staying in decent hotels.
If the cats get along, you can get a larger crate, the sort a med size dog would fit in and pad it and let them all stay together in the crate in the backseat.
Only safety consideration I can think of is have your route mapped out before hand, know where you will be stopping , only drive in the daytime and have a cell phone with you.
I have no bad memories from our drive last Aug.
Good luck!
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Old Apr 28th, 2006 | 10:08 PM
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Wow! I am amazed that people think I can do the trip so fast. I really think it will be more than a week. I will be traveling alone so I don’t want to be on the road after nightfall. There are definitely safety issues for a woman traveling alone and out of state plates are a flag. So I would likely not be on the road for as long as most are thinking to make the trip so quick. In fact, in order to be near fair size places in the western states where I can find lodging, I think it might take like 9 days.

If I fly with the cats, they would be in cargo not in the cabin. I'd rather have them with me in the car but that is a long trip. I wanted to put up the dog barrier (I have a Subaru Forester so I could have them in the back) but they don’t open from inside. I'd have to lift open the back and no way to stop them from getting out. So they would have to be in as big of a pet kennel as I could fit in my car. It will be quite the ordeal if I do it.
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Old Apr 28th, 2006 | 10:42 PM
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You cannot fly pets in the summer and/or in the coldest part of winter.

Believe me, it is not an ordeal at all. Boring maybe, but not an ordeal.
My son expected us to take 10 days , driving from Florida to Oregon, we could have done it a bit faster but made it easily in 5 days.
We left the hotels by 8:00-9:00 at the latest in the am and stopped driving around 5:00 pm- 7:00, depending on how far we had come and how much we felt like driving later. But it was summer, we stopped when it was light, had a nice dinner, walked the dog, watched some tv and slept.
Not an ordeal at all.
Alone or with company, you will listen to the radio or CDs and you will have a great adventure to tell about.
As said, the biggest safety concerns are not to drive at night, stay in decent hotels ( females alone are usually told to have rooms near the front desk) and being sure the car is in good shape and will not break down ..
Get AAA or someone like that to map out the trip for you. Using that map, you can figure out how far you will go each day (miles wise) then you can figure where you will stay-and find hotels and book ahead if you wish. We did that the first 2 nights then just ended up driving up to the hotels and asking for rooms. We never had a problem..and we stayed at La Quintas because they allow all pets with no charge. Keep that in mind, when traveling with the cats.
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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 02:44 AM
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Don't need to worry about having out-of-state license plates. On the interstates, high percentage of cars are out-of-state anyways.

All cellular networks have coverage along the interstates as well, so you can easily get help with a cell phone.

If you're traveling in summer, you get many hours with daylight along the northern US.

I do have a couple of suggestions in regard to safety, however:

- Avoid using the rest areas along the interstates. The staffed welcome centers are okay, but not the regular rest areas. Go to a gas station or truck stop instead.

- Learn how to change a flat tire.
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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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Your most important piece of safety equipment is your cell phone.

I like the idea of bigger crate or crates so they can roam a bit - and it will also hold a litter box.

How far you can drive in one day depends on your tolerance and alertness level. I find myself (female, out of state plates, driving Boston-Savannah) that after 8-10 hours of driving - plus stops, so really 10-12 hour day - I am quite fried. Two days of that is plenty. You might consider 2-3 days driving and then stopping mid-country for 24 hours to let you and cats stretch your legs a bit.

Give some thought to what you will do with cats in hotel room - read posts here about travel with dogs, since most people don't travel with cats, regarding leaving them in hotel room, etc. At least they don't bark, but you have same issues of escape if housekeeping enters as you would with a dog.
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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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As far as driving time, Mapquest lists trip as just under 3,000 miles and 44 hours - I have found them to be generally accurate, but you must add time for traffic, construction and any stops you make - so that is just the time car is moving.
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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 03:58 AM
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Sounds like you have received some excellent advice.
Do you belong to AAA in case of car trouble? It also allows you discounts in many motels.
 
Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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I drove NJ-WA last Sept.Just me and my dog.. Took me 4 days (49 hours).Originally thought 5 or 6.Picked a basic area on the map that I wanted to get to each day, but usually drove further.My personal thought process was that I would rather be "getting there" instead of sitting in a hotel room.Always stopped when I was tired. Didn't do any sightseeing,since it was too hot to make Frankie sit in the car unattended. I signed up for AAA,thankfully still to this day never having needed it. I drive a 4Runner and pulled a trailer. The trailer kills any gas efficiency you may have! I spent just around $800 in gas for the trip,having left the week in Sept gas was at it's highest point. (Save ALL hotel,gas,toll receipts for tax write offs next year!!)My hint will always be don't assume there is a gas station just up the road. There are long stretces on 80 with nothing,and some "gas signed" exits lead you to "Children of the Corn!" Don't ever go under 1/4 tank.

Never felt unsafe, just bored. A cooler,twizzlers,and audio books are great for helping that! Stopped a few times a day for us to stretch (remember leashes and poopie bags- or their litter box!)I stayed in plain little Motel 6,because they were all cheap,clean, and Frankie was no extra $.Then again,it was only to shower, sleep and go first thing the next morning. If I was taking a more laid back trip,I would have stayed in nicer hotels.


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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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"So I would likely not be on the road for as long as most are thinking to make the trip so quick. In fact, in order to be near fair size places in the western states where I can find lodging, I think it might take like 9 days. "

Whether the cats are with you or not, there's no way this should take 9 days. Driving time of 44 hours - that breaks down to 5 hours a day. I don't think it's humanly possible to drive that slow. Especially in the West, where the speed limits are higher.

Seriously, 5-6 days would be doing it comfortably. You'll be on I-90 most of the way. Even in the western states, you're going to be able to find a motel in smaller towns - you don't have to stop for the night in a big city.
 
Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 09:29 AM
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Ship your stuff.

Drive your car, yourself and the cats, no trailer.

I did Vermont/Seattle move years ago. I would be more scared about flying three cats than shipping a car, as far as fear factor.
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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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I would allow 7-9 days, so you don't have to push it. I don't see the worry about personal safety as long as you stick to main routes, have AAA service, and a cell phone.

I would definitely have the cats in carriers not loose in the car! Get a couple good size ones, like for small dogs.
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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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Drive with the cats.

Airlines allow only one animal per passenger (one of my neighbors flew with two cats and had to pay a friend to bring the second) and they will not allow 3 animals in any cabin.

As for your stuff - it depends on how much you have. In my experience belongngs multiply when you move and unless you have practically nothing I would pay a mover. That way you and the cats can be settled in the new place when they arrive.
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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 11:19 AM
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Perhaps a silly question, but how do you deal with the cat relieving itself in a carrier and not ruining the carseat or carpet?
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Old Apr 29th, 2006 | 10:22 PM
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Thanks for all the good suggestions. If I fly the cats WILL NOT be in the cabin. They would be checked, which is a climate controlled area not cargo. I am mid 40's, cancer survivor with some back issues so I won't be driving 8-9 hours (not counting breaks) to make it in 5 days. I guess I have more issues with the safety because I had two people close to me attacked while traveling. One was murdered. She had three dogs with her, including a Doberman. That is why I would want to stay in a more populated area where I can be sure it is a nicer motel/hotel. I'm still debating. I get scared about flying the cats but I would only do it with a direct nonstop flight. Then there’d be only the drive from the airport and it would be over. Not sure how they will be after over a week in a crate in a car. And of course there is the thing with having to catch them every morning to get back on the road.
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Old Apr 30th, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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How unfortunate that you had 2 people close to you attacked while traveling. There are hundreds (?thousands) of people posting here and it does not seem to be a common event to those of us who travel a lot - so do not take these attacks as the norm - these people were either very unlucky or in more dangerous situations than you are likely to be in on a trip such as you plan.

Before you go any further in your decision making process, check with the airline - since some posters here say you can not fly 3 cats with one ticket-buying passenger, even in cargo. If you can not, your decision will be made for you.
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