More anthrax....
Oct 12th, 2001, 10:28 AM
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sss, you are SO in denial. I am glad that reading that book makes the problems of our world today seem trivial for you, but the rest of us can't seem to escape the fear of the horror that seems to be out there. Fear is not a bad thing, it keeps our hands out of the fire, and now it will make us more aware of potential danger. Had we had more fear, maybe we could have intervened before the planes actually hit the WTC.
Oct 12th, 2001, 10:37 AM
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Fear does not work for me that way. I am taking precautions but I am not going to loose it over one case in Manhattan. I was referring to impending fear as trivial and you should pick up and read what others go through and you too will have peace of mind. BTW I saw a commercial with our Mayor telling people to read the battle of Britain, to see how ordinary citizens dealt with constant bombardment…It helps
Not in denial, not running scared, not because that is what a bunch of yahoo's in pick up truck want....because I am not scared.
Not in denial, not running scared, not because that is what a bunch of yahoo's in pick up truck want....because I am not scared.
Oct 12th, 2001, 10:43 AM
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sss, well, I don't know what the difference is between fear and impending fear, and I do understand what you mean about reading how others have handled crises, sort of puts things in perspective, I know. But I am still afraid of what is to come. It would help if I could see into the future and prepare, but the threat of future terrorist acts is a fearsome thing. I wish I could be so brave as you, sss.
Oct 12th, 2001, 10:43 AM
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Scares the hell out of me that Sadaam Hussein has been developing weapons of mass destruction for years and that he is in bed with Bin Laden and the rest of them! Scares the hell out of me, that Hussein killed Kurd women and children with biochemical weapons and he is after us...
Oct 12th, 2001, 10:57 AM
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not about being brave...what can you do? You should think about the quality of life you are living. I am concerned about my job we are in trouble as a direct result of WTC. I was in great fear for a week as I am a single earner. Then I had to think, do I want to do this or do I want to make a decision that buffers the risk? So I begin planning this weekend. Yes I have to calm myself down occasionally, I do that by realizing to myself what the negative thoughts do to my focus.
I was in NYC day of the WTC crash. I remember being paralyzed with fear. I did not know whether to stay at work as people were telling me or go home. One male from office took three of us (all women) to an ATM. He had to walk each of us through the process of taking money out, we could not think. I learned that day that panic does not work and it is important to get a grip. That day people had to yell that at me, today I will try to say it to you.
I was in NYC day of the WTC crash. I remember being paralyzed with fear. I did not know whether to stay at work as people were telling me or go home. One male from office took three of us (all women) to an ATM. He had to walk each of us through the process of taking money out, we could not think. I learned that day that panic does not work and it is important to get a grip. That day people had to yell that at me, today I will try to say it to you.
Oct 12th, 2001, 10:59 AM
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Chris, the markets were down some with profit taking and some due to yesterday's warnings. On the announcement of the new case of anthrax just before noon however, the Dow immediately plunged 100 MORE points.
Your statement is the sort that produces panicky feelings in others. We all need to be concerned, absolutely, but rational concern. Does Wall St need a sell off because there has been ONE more case, and this a less virulent form? Maybe instead we should all rally and breath a sigh of relief, because GE, at least, who was hit as a re-insurer, is STILL meeting earnings expectations!
Have you heard the statements from bin Laden, sneeringly telling how he has the US running in fear from north to south and east to west? I personally do not want him to believe that he has achieved even one of his objectives. We cannot react this way. We have to get used to a new way of life and the time to do it was yesterday. Steel ourselves. Spit at him in anger, but do not hover in fear! Lets not be a country of wusses. That gives them STRENGTH! Lets show we have spine.
I live in FL. Watching Talk Back Live the other day I was astounded to hear the host asking if people in FL were panicking over the anthrax scare. What? Then you think, "I'm not, but maybe I should re-think this"? This is irresponsible media hype and every bit of it gets fed back to "him", you can bet on it. I have concern, yes, and an enormous sadness for a way of life lost, but I refuse to live in fear. Lizzie your handling of your emotions mirrors mine, and it's fine to share our concerns with each other, but everyone needs to keep things in perspective, to be dismayed and angry, but no "God help us nows"!!
Bill I know what you are saying, but I think we should concentrate our efforts on wreaking havoc with al-Qaeda first and foremost. Hussein in addition is a lot for one plate! I can't understand why we haven't taken aim at those poppy fields already, by the way.
Meanwhile, here we are, not bombing today because it's a religious day for them. Aren't we nice Americans, though! Always so thoughtful.
Your statement is the sort that produces panicky feelings in others. We all need to be concerned, absolutely, but rational concern. Does Wall St need a sell off because there has been ONE more case, and this a less virulent form? Maybe instead we should all rally and breath a sigh of relief, because GE, at least, who was hit as a re-insurer, is STILL meeting earnings expectations!
Have you heard the statements from bin Laden, sneeringly telling how he has the US running in fear from north to south and east to west? I personally do not want him to believe that he has achieved even one of his objectives. We cannot react this way. We have to get used to a new way of life and the time to do it was yesterday. Steel ourselves. Spit at him in anger, but do not hover in fear! Lets not be a country of wusses. That gives them STRENGTH! Lets show we have spine.
I live in FL. Watching Talk Back Live the other day I was astounded to hear the host asking if people in FL were panicking over the anthrax scare. What? Then you think, "I'm not, but maybe I should re-think this"? This is irresponsible media hype and every bit of it gets fed back to "him", you can bet on it. I have concern, yes, and an enormous sadness for a way of life lost, but I refuse to live in fear. Lizzie your handling of your emotions mirrors mine, and it's fine to share our concerns with each other, but everyone needs to keep things in perspective, to be dismayed and angry, but no "God help us nows"!!
Bill I know what you are saying, but I think we should concentrate our efforts on wreaking havoc with al-Qaeda first and foremost. Hussein in addition is a lot for one plate! I can't understand why we haven't taken aim at those poppy fields already, by the way.
Meanwhile, here we are, not bombing today because it's a religious day for them. Aren't we nice Americans, though! Always so thoughtful.
Oct 12th, 2001, 11:10 AM
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sss, that day must have been pure hell for you. I can't even begin to imagine what you must have gone through. Your description of your trip to the ATM makes me so sad that you had to go through that. All of you in New York that day suffered so much. Thanks for trying to make me less afraid...it means a lot coming from someone who went through what you did.
But I'm still scared. My brain tells me what you are saying has much validity, but my heart, oh my heart is so worried about my husband and my kids.
But I'm still scared. My brain tells me what you are saying has much validity, but my heart, oh my heart is so worried about my husband and my kids.
Oct 12th, 2001, 11:23 AM
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YesIam, I try to remember the scale of this. Yes it was a tremendous amount of people at the UN, tremendous amount of loss. But we are 240 million strong and now we have much of the world behind us. We will figure this out the same way past WW’s were figured out.
Go buy the Anthrax Antibiotic for your family if that makes you feel calm. It is about $10. with health insurance. Do what you can and then remember all that the world has overcome before. I think about Japan (Hiroshima), that is so much more than this. I am not down playing that loss just helps me to find a greater loss that people recovered from.
Go buy the Anthrax Antibiotic for your family if that makes you feel calm. It is about $10. with health insurance. Do what you can and then remember all that the world has overcome before. I think about Japan (Hiroshima), that is so much more than this. I am not down playing that loss just helps me to find a greater loss that people recovered from.
Oct 12th, 2001, 11:58 AM
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sss, The Pentagon stopped bombing today in respect for the "Muslim Day of Prayers".
I shake my head at this wonderful respect, but of course do understand we are walking a fragile tightrope, especially where Pakistan is concerned. If that country explodes then I just might join Chris in saying, "God help us all"! <g>
I shake my head at this wonderful respect, but of course do understand we are walking a fragile tightrope, especially where Pakistan is concerned. If that country explodes then I just might join Chris in saying, "God help us all"! <g>
Oct 12th, 2001, 12:20 PM
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Tough isn't a word many (any?) people use to describe me, but yes, you can have mine. The only problem is, you'll have to come to Florida to get it!
I don't mean to be tough or hard, but fear/terror allows the terrorists to win. (Trite but true) It can bring the economy to its knees. To them, that's as much a victory as crashing the planes into the WTC. It undoubtedly just galls them that the market has almost recouped all it's losses, and it occurred to me when the recovery was so robust this week, that they started their new verbal campaign in an attempt to reverse what undoubtedly appeared to them as signs of US optimism. I'm sure they were infuriated by that. Good.
I don't mean to be tough or hard, but fear/terror allows the terrorists to win. (Trite but true) It can bring the economy to its knees. To them, that's as much a victory as crashing the planes into the WTC. It undoubtedly just galls them that the market has almost recouped all it's losses, and it occurred to me when the recovery was so robust this week, that they started their new verbal campaign in an attempt to reverse what undoubtedly appeared to them as signs of US optimism. I'm sure they were infuriated by that. Good.
Oct 12th, 2001, 01:15 PM
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Sara, She was one of the smart ones that escaped.
What amuses me are the Pakistani rioters all waving signs written in English. Is that to encourage their fellow countrymen, who very likely wouldn't know an "a" from an "e" from a "P"? LOL We may be stoopit, but not that stoopit!
What amuses me are the Pakistani rioters all waving signs written in English. Is that to encourage their fellow countrymen, who very likely wouldn't know an "a" from an "e" from a "P"? LOL We may be stoopit, but not that stoopit!
