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Old Dec 13th, 2009, 03:09 PM
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"...Edgy in my friends case I think equals = young, artsy, avant garde. She loves indie music, innovative cocktails, and seasonal/sustainable/organic inspired cuisine..."

In general, don't mix music with food. Few places do both well. mp posted recently about citywinery.com which I haven't yet tried but looks like one of the exceptions.

Seasonal/sustainable food= Park Avenue Winter (seasonal)
Blue Hill for sustainable-- both pricey but good. Here's a bigger list of restaurants
http://www.slowfoodnyc.org/programs/soa

I'll add WD-50 for edgy. http://www.wd-50.com/info.html

I think your friend would like the website urbandaddy.com
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Old Dec 13th, 2009, 03:14 PM
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The Muse is a GREAT choice!

I'm too old to be edgy.
Wish I had more ideas but I'm fresh out.
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Old Dec 13th, 2009, 07:13 PM
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Ohhhhhh, those are some great links ek and mclaurie!

Thanks starrs, I will let her know.
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Thursday we are going ou for diner in the Aldea neighborhood. But Zagats puts diner at $61 a person, which is more than I anticipated. We will go to an old stand-by Le Zie but we will definitely go to Motorino in the next few weeks.

We went once to the predecessor of Motorino, who has left Manhattan for the wilds of New Jersey. They had a guest book at the pizzeria. As pretenious as the rest of the place. They closed when they ran out of dough (the flour type.). We signed the guest Fred and Ethel Mozzerrella.
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Bookmarking (NOT for the fake Chanel bags)
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Old Dec 16th, 2009, 03:18 AM
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Aduchamp: I don't think that the Zagat price points are always accurate. AFter all, they depend on people like us to state the prices! My favorite dish at Aldea (goat with cherries) is not on the winter menu but there are many good things waiting there, I can assure you.

The former owner/leaser of the Motorino space left to open a place in San Francisco.
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San Franciscan here. Name please (chef or new restaurant)?
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Old Dec 16th, 2009, 08:11 AM
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I will see my boss today, who is just getting back from NYC and she swore they were going to Motorino...so will get her review.

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SF: His name is Anthony Mangieri. He comes from New Jersey and made his name at the predecessor to Motorino, Una Pizza Napoletana.

He developed quite a following here but his fanatacism also irked many people. He did close for the day when he ran out of fresh dough, although I am not sure why that would provoke people.

I have no details on where he went in the Bay area, but you might like to read this article for more info:

http://nymag.com/restaurants/cheapeats/2009/57897/
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Old Dec 16th, 2009, 10:41 AM
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http://sf.eater.com/tags/anthony-mangieri

South of Market - exact location unknown!
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I will second Katz and Murray's. Murray's cinnamon swirl bagel is to die for. For pizza, I love Famiglia in Morningside Heights, very near Columbia U. Near that is a great French restaurant, too: Le Monde, which is kitty-cornered to Tom's Diner. Take the 1 to 110th and walk north a few blocks. Over on Amsterdam at the corner of 110th St. is Bistro 1018 which fits many of your friend's criteria. But Aduchamp's suggestions are always good--they were very helpful to me during my extended NYC visit last March.
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Great post and thanks for the shout-out Starrs about the Divine Bar!

I'll be back in NYC at the end of March and I will be checking out the restaurants on this list before I go to decide where to dine!
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Thank you.
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My experience with WD-40 was good until I tried the olive oil ice cream for dessert.....

NY noodletown is a good one for lunch. It's a Cantonese restaurant so stick to the southern dishes. I like the panfried seafood noodle (the best in Chinatown), salt-bake(actually fried) soft shall crab or squid, steam chinese vegetable(gai lan is a favorite) with the vegetarian oyster sauce (it's made of mushroom) on the side, roast duck and roast pork( take out or do a noodle soup with either). The deep fried flounder is quite good not the best in Chinatown. They serve beer.

Congee village on Allen street has good decor for a Chinatown restaurant. They serve wine, I prefer to bring my own, cork fee per bottle is about $10. Also a Cantonese restaurant which means seafood galore. A good place for group dinner. The tables on the right hand side of the restaurant are more quiet than the ones in the middle.

The dimsum in Chinatown is really not doing justice for dimsum. They are poorly made. For real dimsum, consider a trip to Hong Kong.

Jackson Diner in Jackson heights is a great cheap Indian Restaurant with authentic indian food. Lunch is buffet style with lots of food and costs about $10. They serve a la carte too. Their mango lassi (yogurt drink) is really good. Next to the restaurant is a good dessert place, get a piece of everything for the fun of it. Next to that is a grocery store, try the snacks-v. very spicy and good with beer. They have a really good coconut hair-conditioner, if you care for that.
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Old Dec 18th, 2009, 03:51 AM
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SF: We sent you Anthony Mangieri and you sent us Nate Appleman!

I've never had Appleman's food but the cookbook, A16, is terrific! It would make great gift for a home cook.
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SF: We sent you Anthony Mangieri and you sent us Nate Appleman!

I know!! I was so surprised watching "Next Iron Chef" that he's in New York. Meanwhile, every night I drive through SoMa on my way home and have my eyes peeled for a new pizza place under construction. Haven't found it yet
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I am italian and I know that lots of italians love N28 pizzas!
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The dimsum in Chinatown is really not doing justice for dimsum. They are poorly made. For real dimsum, consider a trip to Hong Kong.

What subway stop is that?
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This list is great. So many new places I have never heard of. Going to check them out when I am in NYC the end of this month.
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Old Jan 1st, 2010, 11:05 AM
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The Divine Bar looks very cool. Love the rooftop deck! Need to check it out.
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