Livng in the South
Aug 18th, 2004 | 08:36 AM
#101
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Charleston is not the 'Deep South.' I hope we haven't scared you about your move.
Well, the Citadel is in Charleston and now accepts women, but I don't think they have a graduate school. Try College of Charleston or Charleston Southern. There is also xxx school that I'm blanking on right now.
Sinehat can do a better job explaining this but back where there was slavery one way to scare the slave was to threaten them to be 'sold south'. It meant the end of a 'better' life where they were and might end up picking cotton in Mississippi. Those are the areas I think of when I here the term 'deep south.
Well, the Citadel is in Charleston and now accepts women, but I don't think they have a graduate school. Try College of Charleston or Charleston Southern. There is also xxx school that I'm blanking on right now.
Sinehat can do a better job explaining this but back where there was slavery one way to scare the slave was to threaten them to be 'sold south'. It meant the end of a 'better' life where they were and might end up picking cotton in Mississippi. Those are the areas I think of when I here the term 'deep south.
Aug 18th, 2004 | 09:54 AM
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"might end up picking cotton in Mississippi"
Along that note, my soft spoken Grandmother, known to us as Nannie, lived in the small town of Port Gibson, Mississippi all until she was almost 80. Which, btw, was the town in which General Grant stood on the house in which my Mother was raised and announced, "This town is too beautiful to burn"
Anyway, way back when, my Grandmother was turning to pull into her driveway when she ended up nicking another car going the opposite way. She stops for second, then goes to the end of her driveway, into the garage, gets out and goes inside.
Eventually the law comes and knocks on her door. The officer knows Nannie, and says, Mzz. Crisler, may I talk to you about the little accident you had? My Nannie's response was, "I don't talk about such things. You'll need to find my son and talk to him about it." And with that, she went back inside and the office went and found my Uncle to discuss it with him.
Along that note, my soft spoken Grandmother, known to us as Nannie, lived in the small town of Port Gibson, Mississippi all until she was almost 80. Which, btw, was the town in which General Grant stood on the house in which my Mother was raised and announced, "This town is too beautiful to burn"
Anyway, way back when, my Grandmother was turning to pull into her driveway when she ended up nicking another car going the opposite way. She stops for second, then goes to the end of her driveway, into the garage, gets out and goes inside.
Eventually the law comes and knocks on her door. The officer knows Nannie, and says, Mzz. Crisler, may I talk to you about the little accident you had? My Nannie's response was, "I don't talk about such things. You'll need to find my son and talk to him about it." And with that, she went back inside and the office went and found my Uncle to discuss it with him.
Aug 18th, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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my masters would be in criminal justice.
thats a cute story about the grandmother, i currently live with my papaw, he is 83 has no idea how to cook, do laundry or pays bills, my grandmother took care of all of that and when she died he was basically helpless, (He just recently learned how to use a coffee pot) Which leads me to my next question, do southerners typically view a women's place as "in the home" and is it expected that women know how to cook, because if thats the case I will never be married
I am just asking becasue i the south seems to be a very traditional place.
thats a cute story about the grandmother, i currently live with my papaw, he is 83 has no idea how to cook, do laundry or pays bills, my grandmother took care of all of that and when she died he was basically helpless, (He just recently learned how to use a coffee pot) Which leads me to my next question, do southerners typically view a women's place as "in the home" and is it expected that women know how to cook, because if thats the case I will never be married
I am just asking becasue i the south seems to be a very traditional place.
Aug 18th, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Amatters,
I am from the south and have lived in Charleston for a while during college. (College of Charleston). It's a great city especially if you are young. For some of the older residents it can be a little snooty... "OLD MONEY... AND ONLY OLD MONEY MATTERS" if you catch my drift. There are great restaurants, tons of bars, and great shopping!
As far as racial issues and civil war and all of that. It's really not an issue. I have plenty of friends that are different races and it's no big deal. Just stick with the educated people and you wont have a problem. The south still has ignorant red necks that believe in succession and all other kinds of crazy notions about women rights, african americans, and confederate flags. Most of the larger cities, like Charleston do have plenty of well educated and diverse people.
As far as your boyfriend being in PA for a while, I am sorry. My husband (then boyfriend) was in Erie, PA while I was in SC and it was tough. Now, however there is Independence Air which has great rates and flied directly into Charleston and Pittsburgh. I think flights are about $129ish.
Best of luck with your move. I am sure that you will LOVE Charleston. I would move back there in a heartbeat if I could!
I am from the south and have lived in Charleston for a while during college. (College of Charleston). It's a great city especially if you are young. For some of the older residents it can be a little snooty... "OLD MONEY... AND ONLY OLD MONEY MATTERS" if you catch my drift. There are great restaurants, tons of bars, and great shopping!
As far as racial issues and civil war and all of that. It's really not an issue. I have plenty of friends that are different races and it's no big deal. Just stick with the educated people and you wont have a problem. The south still has ignorant red necks that believe in succession and all other kinds of crazy notions about women rights, african americans, and confederate flags. Most of the larger cities, like Charleston do have plenty of well educated and diverse people.
As far as your boyfriend being in PA for a while, I am sorry. My husband (then boyfriend) was in Erie, PA while I was in SC and it was tough. Now, however there is Independence Air which has great rates and flied directly into Charleston and Pittsburgh. I think flights are about $129ish.
Best of luck with your move. I am sure that you will LOVE Charleston. I would move back there in a heartbeat if I could!
Aug 18th, 2004 | 11:10 AM
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Thanks Jribgy,
The boyfriend in pa will be hard, i am glad that it worked out for you and your husband, it gives me hope. He goes to Penn State and has about 2 years left, o the other hand i will be at the beach and he will want to visit often, as will my family and friends.
The boyfriend in pa will be hard, i am glad that it worked out for you and your husband, it gives me hope. He goes to Penn State and has about 2 years left, o the other hand i will be at the beach and he will want to visit often, as will my family and friends.
Aug 18th, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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I am really enjoying this thread!
My mother left Tennessee after college for other places not located in the south. She shed her accent quickly, as northerners often discount things people say with a southern accent. (My husband can also attest to this. He shed his Georgia accent quickly, also...And my father, who grew up in Brooklyn, shed that one quickly, too! -tg!)
Once, though, we were visiting my Mom's aunt, who lived in Memphis. My Mom hadn't seen her for years. The family waited in the car while she knocked at the door. Then we heard this familiar voice, but with a syrupy southern accent we had never heard, saying, "Why Aunt Effie! This is Betty Ann!" We were roaring in the car!
My mother left Tennessee after college for other places not located in the south. She shed her accent quickly, as northerners often discount things people say with a southern accent. (My husband can also attest to this. He shed his Georgia accent quickly, also...And my father, who grew up in Brooklyn, shed that one quickly, too! -tg!)
Once, though, we were visiting my Mom's aunt, who lived in Memphis. My Mom hadn't seen her for years. The family waited in the car while she knocked at the door. Then we heard this familiar voice, but with a syrupy southern accent we had never heard, saying, "Why Aunt Effie! This is Betty Ann!" We were roaring in the car!
Aug 18th, 2004 | 12:55 PM
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You've got me scratching the ole noggin' thinking how anyone could suggest any portion of FL, TX, OK, AK and other outlyers are remotely related to the South. No, there are no southern Floridians, lol, whatever that is. Those are all pesky yankees! And C'ston is not deep? ... that comes from drinking too much sweetened tea, w/o mint! LOL, goodness gracious!
Aug 18th, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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Goodness gracious, my lil ole head is spinning with Blackties reference to Southern Florida being full of "pesky Yankees" !! That must be why there is such a thriving Cuban community in Miami..all those pesky Yankee Cubans! as well as the many Hollywood types who have their homes in Florida now..but those must be those pesky Californian Yankees.
I live in Florida and an area that is referred to as Southern Georgia, so I guess we cannot get any deeper
I live in Florida and an area that is referred to as Southern Georgia, so I guess we cannot get any deeper
Aug 18th, 2004 | 02:14 PM
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Formal attire--come on down and I'll introduce you to more Southern Floridians than you can count! I know about six little old ladies alone who'd love to whoop your butt for saying they aren't Southern for being born and raised in FL!
amatters-puleeze, a woman's place in the in the home? If some people still feel that way it's not limited to the South! Now, if you didn't already have a papaw I might think that you were starting to pull our leg!
hibiscushouse--I feel like I know a celebrity--cool story.
amatters-puleeze, a woman's place in the in the home? If some people still feel that way it's not limited to the South! Now, if you didn't already have a papaw I might think that you were starting to pull our leg!
hibiscushouse--I feel like I know a celebrity--cool story.
Aug 18th, 2004 | 02:31 PM
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ncgrrl, from what I understand, that is where the phrase, "sold down the river" came from. The idea was that slavery life in the deep south was more brutal than in the upper south. I have heard the same thing about using the threat of selling the slave to a slaveowner from farther south to keep a slave in line. Sad, huh?
amatters, if your masters is to be in criminal justice you may be moving to the right city. The chief of police is a guy named Ruben Greenberg(?) who is credited with turning the crime rates around in Charleston. He's been there maybe 10-12 years. I've heard him talk a couple of times and he has a very common sense approach to problem solving. Interesting man, if a bit controversial.
Perhaps it's not fair to define the south strickly in geographic terms. May be just an attitude. For instance, if you go into a restaurant for breakfast and your waitress walks up and asks "you want coffee, hon?" even though she has never seen you before,
and/or you answer, "yes, Ma'am" even though she is younger than you are.
Good chance you are in the south.
amatters, if your masters is to be in criminal justice you may be moving to the right city. The chief of police is a guy named Ruben Greenberg(?) who is credited with turning the crime rates around in Charleston. He's been there maybe 10-12 years. I've heard him talk a couple of times and he has a very common sense approach to problem solving. Interesting man, if a bit controversial.
Perhaps it's not fair to define the south strickly in geographic terms. May be just an attitude. For instance, if you go into a restaurant for breakfast and your waitress walks up and asks "you want coffee, hon?" even though she has never seen you before,
and/or you answer, "yes, Ma'am" even though she is younger than you are.
Good chance you are in the south.
Aug 18th, 2004 | 03:12 PM
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In my group of friends, many have transplanted to Florida years ago. From Georgia, Alabama, Mississippi, Texas, oh and Tampa too. Myself, I come from Mississippi born and bred parents, I was born in Louisiana, and moved to Clearwater 41 years ago. At least 1/3 of the people I know are Florida natives. Fortunately it affords me many wonderful stories of 'old Florida'. Soak it up like a sponge.
I debated asking, but figure I need to know at this point. We used to have a maid that would make us peanut butter, mayonnaise and sugar sandwiches. Try it before you knock it. Any of you fine Southern folk ever had one, or were we isolated in this delicacy?
Oh, and one more, it's praaawline, not prayline. That is if one knows what a praline is to begin with.
And amatters, if you have a pawpal (that's how we spell it), then you must sit down at your first Charleston bar and sip on a mint julep. Promise me that!
I debated asking, but figure I need to know at this point. We used to have a maid that would make us peanut butter, mayonnaise and sugar sandwiches. Try it before you knock it. Any of you fine Southern folk ever had one, or were we isolated in this delicacy?
Oh, and one more, it's praaawline, not prayline. That is if one knows what a praline is to begin with.
And amatters, if you have a pawpal (that's how we spell it), then you must sit down at your first Charleston bar and sip on a mint julep. Promise me that!
Aug 18th, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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Oh hibiscushouse, I'd forgotten about some of those odd sandwiches. When I was a little girl I thought it was so gross when my aunt ate a pineapple and mayonnaise sandwich every morning for breakfast. I still think it's a gross combination but it's still on the menu in a little diner in my dad's hometown.
My mama also put a saccharin tablet in EVERY single thing she cooked. About 10 years ago, within two years of each other my dad and my uncle BOTH developed a rare but curable form of bladder cancer. Weird.
We haven't heard from bonniebroad; she must be on vacation or she'd be right on this!
My mama also put a saccharin tablet in EVERY single thing she cooked. About 10 years ago, within two years of each other my dad and my uncle BOTH developed a rare but curable form of bladder cancer. Weird.
We haven't heard from bonniebroad; she must be on vacation or she'd be right on this!
