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Aug 19th, 2003, 05:14 AM
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I think the discussion here is about waitstaff not being trained properly. I would certainly not expect a waiter in an establishment where the average check per person is $60 or $70 to ask if I'm "still working on that" in those terms. Whatever happened to "have you finished?" or "may I take your plate?"?
Anyway, my own personal pet peeve is other diners who are so loud & rambunctious that you can't hear anyone at your own table!
Anyway, my own personal pet peeve is other diners who are so loud & rambunctious that you can't hear anyone at your own table!
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:19 AM
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I agree that some people's displeasures are what other people prefer and it really all boils down to each person's preference.
I've read many posts on here that are complaints of some, whereas half the people I know would prefer that type of service (i.e. dishes being cleared away when it's obvious they're done eating).
Different strokes for different folks!
I've read many posts on here that are complaints of some, whereas half the people I know would prefer that type of service (i.e. dishes being cleared away when it's obvious they're done eating).
Different strokes for different folks!
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:25 AM
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One that especially peeves me here in NYC: people that bring small children to a restaurant that is obviously intended for quiet, romantic dinners. I blame the high divorce rate on the fact that people can no longer get to know each other over a quiet dinner due to tired children who are up past their bedtime.
Another peeve from NYC restaurants: people that are listening in on your conversation and then have the nerve to ask you about something which proves they were eavesdropping.
Another peeve from NYC restaurants: people that are listening in on your conversation and then have the nerve to ask you about something which proves they were eavesdropping.
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:34 AM
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Watching the wait staff socialize or flirt with each other when you've been trying to get their attention for something...(or when the waiter socializes for 10 minutes with a table near you while your one drink sits empty the whole time).
When you have 4 people at a table, and they bring 3 rolls.
And they ALWAYS ask how it is when you've had the very first mouthful...1) give me a chance to taste it first and 2) is this a plot so our mouth is full and we can't tell you if something IS wrong?
I still can't believe it when a waiter sits down...I don't care if it is some cutsie random family restaurant, I don't want to have a conversation, I want to order! They especially seem to think this is endearing when they're a young guy and you're a table full of women...sorry kid, we're not going to tip you more b/c you're flirting with us.
There was a funny column in the Dallas Morning News about waiters refilling iced tea...how you get the perfect sugar mixture, and they refill your glass anytime it dips below 2/3 full. So it ruins your sugar mix and you have to constantly be retooling your drink level. The lady said she appreciated it, but ASK before you refill.. I would have to agree, it doesn't make me angry, they're just doing their job, but it is a pain to constantly be messing with sugars. And on that same level, I always use only 1/2 pkg of sweetener, and I reserve the second half for when they refill. Bless their hearts, they are always grabbing up that half used package, thinking it's trash, even though I've carefully folded it closed. I never notice until I go to get it...poor things, they are trying, but what a waste of sugar.
And one of my top ones, when they bring your appetizer or salad, and about a minute later plop your entree down. ARGH!
And these restaurants that serve huge portions but have tiny tables....we should not have to shuffle everything around and squeeze items tight just so the waiter can set the plate down.
When you have 4 people at a table, and they bring 3 rolls.
And they ALWAYS ask how it is when you've had the very first mouthful...1) give me a chance to taste it first and 2) is this a plot so our mouth is full and we can't tell you if something IS wrong?
I still can't believe it when a waiter sits down...I don't care if it is some cutsie random family restaurant, I don't want to have a conversation, I want to order! They especially seem to think this is endearing when they're a young guy and you're a table full of women...sorry kid, we're not going to tip you more b/c you're flirting with us.
There was a funny column in the Dallas Morning News about waiters refilling iced tea...how you get the perfect sugar mixture, and they refill your glass anytime it dips below 2/3 full. So it ruins your sugar mix and you have to constantly be retooling your drink level. The lady said she appreciated it, but ASK before you refill.. I would have to agree, it doesn't make me angry, they're just doing their job, but it is a pain to constantly be messing with sugars. And on that same level, I always use only 1/2 pkg of sweetener, and I reserve the second half for when they refill. Bless their hearts, they are always grabbing up that half used package, thinking it's trash, even though I've carefully folded it closed. I never notice until I go to get it...poor things, they are trying, but what a waste of sugar.
And one of my top ones, when they bring your appetizer or salad, and about a minute later plop your entree down. ARGH!
And these restaurants that serve huge portions but have tiny tables....we should not have to shuffle everything around and squeeze items tight just so the waiter can set the plate down.
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:44 AM
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Scarlett, I also am appalled by the "still working on that" question. Last weekend at a nice restaurant in Toronto, I actually mustered up the nerve to comment on it. In reply I said, "Actually, I never was WORKING on it, but if you mean am I finished, the answer is yes." Like Luv2fly, I think that a young waiter referring to a tableful of people old enough to be his parents as "you guys" is rude.
Aug 19th, 2003, 05:52 AM
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How about places where they decide for themselves that you're finished, and slap the check down, saying "There you are!", without checking if there's anything else you'd like. Even worse, "There you go!"
I also have "a problem" with "No Problem!" When I ask for an item on the menu, or a simple request like water, I really didn't expect it to be a problem. One place I dine at has successfully trained their staff to say "My pleasure!" instead. Still sounds a little "canned", but doesn't irk me so much.
There you go! <g>
I also have "a problem" with "No Problem!" When I ask for an item on the menu, or a simple request like water, I really didn't expect it to be a problem. One place I dine at has successfully trained their staff to say "My pleasure!" instead. Still sounds a little "canned", but doesn't irk me so much.
There you go! <g>
Aug 19th, 2003, 06:41 AM
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Major irk: when the waitperson comes over and rolls off a glowing list of specials and doesn't let you know the prices! I know, I know, if you have to ask the price, you can't afford it...but all the same, I WANT to know.
It seems that most servers bet on the fact that you don't want to appear "cheap" in front of your dining companions, and therefore you won't ask the price. Specials tend to be more expensive = higher tab = equals more tip. On principle, I resent this, and I think that just as the menus have clearly listed prices, so ought the specials. I won't order a special if I am forced to ask for more than a description of it.
It seems that most servers bet on the fact that you don't want to appear "cheap" in front of your dining companions, and therefore you won't ask the price. Specials tend to be more expensive = higher tab = equals more tip. On principle, I resent this, and I think that just as the menus have clearly listed prices, so ought the specials. I won't order a special if I am forced to ask for more than a description of it.
Aug 19th, 2003, 06:49 AM
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Alooohaaaa,
Not that I'm normally cranky,
,we came home from a beautiful weekend in SF thru Napa Valley and stopped at Hurley's in Yountville for lunch.
Nice place, patio dining and we've always had a good meal and service there.
BUT, when the waiter brought the bill he "hawkeyed and hovered" around it.
He even went to pick it up one time before we had a chance to look at it.
We were still enjoying a conversation with friends. No line to get in....empty tables available so it wasn't like we were taking up space that day. I finally asked him if he was getting off his shift shortly so we could pay the bill right now. Nope.
What's worse. Inattentive service where you have to send up smoke signals to get/pay the bill or a "hoverer"?
Is this limited to just restaurant cranks or could I describe some drivers we saw on Hwy 101 and thru the NV?
Darn tourists!
Scored some REAL Buffalo Mozzarella in NV so it made the minor annoynace mo' bettah. Now to find some REAL tomatoes!
Mahalo,
Kal
Not that I'm normally cranky,
,we came home from a beautiful weekend in SF thru Napa Valley and stopped at Hurley's in Yountville for lunch.Nice place, patio dining and we've always had a good meal and service there.
BUT, when the waiter brought the bill he "hawkeyed and hovered" around it.
He even went to pick it up one time before we had a chance to look at it.
We were still enjoying a conversation with friends. No line to get in....empty tables available so it wasn't like we were taking up space that day. I finally asked him if he was getting off his shift shortly so we could pay the bill right now. Nope.
What's worse. Inattentive service where you have to send up smoke signals to get/pay the bill or a "hoverer"?
Is this limited to just restaurant cranks or could I describe some drivers we saw on Hwy 101 and thru the NV?
Darn tourists!
Scored some REAL Buffalo Mozzarella in NV so it made the minor annoynace mo' bettah. Now to find some REAL tomatoes!
Mahalo,
Kal
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:02 AM
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What did you say? I can't hear you because of the music that's BLASTING from the speakers. I have nothing against background music but it should stay in the BACKGROUND!
And I'm another person against big plates on small tables. Especially when the tables are jammed in too close.
And I'm another person against big plates on small tables. Especially when the tables are jammed in too close.
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:02 AM
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Being seated in smoking when I am 8+ months pregnant (Morton's - I'll never go back!)
Ordering a crab pita in the Caribbean and having it be FAKE crab. I'd expect this in Ohio but not while I'm overlooking the ocean!
When I use my credit card to pay the bill and they bring it back to my husband to sign. I don't mind if they give him the bill initially, but when it's my name (which is clearly female - Lisa) I expect them to give it back to me.
Ordering a crab pita in the Caribbean and having it be FAKE crab. I'd expect this in Ohio but not while I'm overlooking the ocean!
When I use my credit card to pay the bill and they bring it back to my husband to sign. I don't mind if they give him the bill initially, but when it's my name (which is clearly female - Lisa) I expect them to give it back to me.
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:07 AM
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There are only two things that I really hate in restaurants, and I guess it just goes to show that "different strokes for different folks" really does apply because for one, I hate those stupid pepper grinders the size of mature oak trees.
You know the ones I'm talking about -- the waiter has to bring it to the table with a ceiling-mounted hydraulic hoist.
I much prefer individual pepper grinders at the tables, because I love cracked peppercorns in my salads, and coarse pepper in my entrees, and rarely have any use at all for fine pepper, which is what you find in pepper shakers.
Meanwhile I also can't stand it when anyone smokes in a restaurant. The city where I live experimented with banning smoking in restaurants, only to discover exactly how loud and obnoxious some smokers can be, and thus gave them back their right to make my meal taste like cigarette smoke. This isn't a problem in most places, which restrict smoking to the bar or lounge, or to some area that's separated from the rest of us, but in a place like Pizza Hut (I know, I know, what should I expect in such a lowbrow place), you're sitting there trying to enjoy your anchovies and extra onions and you can't because of the smoke wafting over from the smoking section -- which is about two booths away and separated from you by nothing more than good old Asheville mountain air (chilled to perfection by restaurant air conditioners).
From the volume of smoke, it appears the diners have multiple cigarettes stuck between each finger and are sucking like a bilge pump, lest any of that delicious nicotiney goodness slip away.
For God's sake, can't it wait? Can you not go 15 minutes without making sure some Eastern North Carolina tobacco farmer can pay for an inground, marble-inlaid swimming pool in cash?
When trapped in a restaurant without much separation between smokers and those of us who actually like to taste our food, I'm often tempted to go over to them and heave one of the industrial strength pepper grinders stolen from a better restaurant onto them. Sure, it would crush them and kill them instantly, but it would effectively alleviate the problem.
Plus, if they hadn't been tapping their ashes onto it, I could steal their pizza.
You know the ones I'm talking about -- the waiter has to bring it to the table with a ceiling-mounted hydraulic hoist.
I much prefer individual pepper grinders at the tables, because I love cracked peppercorns in my salads, and coarse pepper in my entrees, and rarely have any use at all for fine pepper, which is what you find in pepper shakers.
Meanwhile I also can't stand it when anyone smokes in a restaurant. The city where I live experimented with banning smoking in restaurants, only to discover exactly how loud and obnoxious some smokers can be, and thus gave them back their right to make my meal taste like cigarette smoke. This isn't a problem in most places, which restrict smoking to the bar or lounge, or to some area that's separated from the rest of us, but in a place like Pizza Hut (I know, I know, what should I expect in such a lowbrow place), you're sitting there trying to enjoy your anchovies and extra onions and you can't because of the smoke wafting over from the smoking section -- which is about two booths away and separated from you by nothing more than good old Asheville mountain air (chilled to perfection by restaurant air conditioners).
From the volume of smoke, it appears the diners have multiple cigarettes stuck between each finger and are sucking like a bilge pump, lest any of that delicious nicotiney goodness slip away.
For God's sake, can't it wait? Can you not go 15 minutes without making sure some Eastern North Carolina tobacco farmer can pay for an inground, marble-inlaid swimming pool in cash?
When trapped in a restaurant without much separation between smokers and those of us who actually like to taste our food, I'm often tempted to go over to them and heave one of the industrial strength pepper grinders stolen from a better restaurant onto them. Sure, it would crush them and kill them instantly, but it would effectively alleviate the problem.
Plus, if they hadn't been tapping their ashes onto it, I could steal their pizza.
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:08 AM
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Top restaurant peeves: when the waiter arrives at the table and calls out each entree, as in "who had the blah blah?"--waiters are supposed to have a system for remembering who ordered what; when the entree arrives while the appetrizers or salads are still on the table, being "worked on"; and one that actually happened to me, a waiter who returned after serving the entrees and inquired "Is everything wonderful?". Yikes!
I should add that my peeves apply to better restaurants; it makes no sense to expect 4-star details at Denny's (although the waitstaff at pancake houses tends to be very professional, IMO). But restaurants with 2 or more stars and prices to match really should train their waitstaff well. You can't assume anymore that people of a certain age have good manners.
I should add that my peeves apply to better restaurants; it makes no sense to expect 4-star details at Denny's (although the waitstaff at pancake houses tends to be very professional, IMO). But restaurants with 2 or more stars and prices to match really should train their waitstaff well. You can't assume anymore that people of a certain age have good manners.
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:11 AM
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Froggy,
Max's Diner in San Francisco used to have a line on their menu that said if any of the staff asked how your meal is you'll get it for free, or something to that effect. Of course, there was also a sign on the door that said "This is a bad place to bring a diet".
Max's Diner in San Francisco used to have a line on their menu that said if any of the staff asked how your meal is you'll get it for free, or something to that effect. Of course, there was also a sign on the door that said "This is a bad place to bring a diet".
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:21 AM
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Here we go:
1. Having my entree brought to the table while i'm "still working on" my salad/appetizer.
2. Salads brought on hot dishes.
3. Busboys who hold your glass/bowl by the rim when serving. YUCK!
4. Being forced to drive around and see the rear of any restaurant,(seeing the dumpster prior to/just after my meal). HURL!
5. Mandatory valet parking.
6. Room temperature soup/coffee.
7. Answering the question "was everything okay?" with a specific comment about one or more items, and receiving no repsponse from either the manager or the waiter. Don't ask the question if you don't want to hear the answer!
8. Opening a dirty menu.
1. Having my entree brought to the table while i'm "still working on" my salad/appetizer.
2. Salads brought on hot dishes.
3. Busboys who hold your glass/bowl by the rim when serving. YUCK!
4. Being forced to drive around and see the rear of any restaurant,(seeing the dumpster prior to/just after my meal). HURL!
5. Mandatory valet parking.
6. Room temperature soup/coffee.
7. Answering the question "was everything okay?" with a specific comment about one or more items, and receiving no repsponse from either the manager or the waiter. Don't ask the question if you don't want to hear the answer!
8. Opening a dirty menu.
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:28 AM
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Thank you all so much for sharing your "crankiness"!
Kal, I agree wholeheartedly! As if they have had too many patrons run out leaving him the bill!
Hauntedhead, that is exactly the Pepper Mill I am talking about!! And once is enough, do I need them asking me before EACH course!! At least they are quitting with the pouring oil in dishes everywhere..especially when you give Scarlett a dim restaurant and a tiny plate in front of her and she lands a hand or arm in the bowl of oil~
ncggrl, SAY THAT AGAIN?? and it is never music you want to hear anyway!
Worse than shopping in these boutiques that play bad techno full blast and I am trying to pull up my pants and hold my hands over my ears at the same time..Awkward but it can be done
Kal, I agree wholeheartedly! As if they have had too many patrons run out leaving him the bill!
Hauntedhead, that is exactly the Pepper Mill I am talking about!! And once is enough, do I need them asking me before EACH course!! At least they are quitting with the pouring oil in dishes everywhere..especially when you give Scarlett a dim restaurant and a tiny plate in front of her and she lands a hand or arm in the bowl of oil~
ncggrl, SAY THAT AGAIN?? and it is never music you want to hear anyway!
Worse than shopping in these boutiques that play bad techno full blast and I am trying to pull up my pants and hold my hands over my ears at the same time..Awkward but it can be done
Aug 19th, 2003, 07:45 AM
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Dirty menus, rocking tables, chair (even booth seats) that are disproportionately tall to the table, taking forever to get your food - especially if you are starving, taking forever to get your check, and too much air conditioner (Chili's) or sitting by a window on a cold day and feeling the cold air. B-r-r-r!
