kids welcome at wineries?
Apr 25th, 2007, 11:38 AM
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What I posted at the beginning of this absurd thread:
"As a childless person, I wouldn't think twice about seeing a 4 year old at a winery unless s/he was running amok, crying or the like. So as long as one parent is prepared to whisk the little one away when her patience runs out, I say go taste some wine, rubyselbow. I certainly don't see anything intrinsically inappropriate about it. Enjoy the trip!"
You're welcome, rubyselbow. Jeesh.
"As a childless person, I wouldn't think twice about seeing a 4 year old at a winery unless s/he was running amok, crying or the like. So as long as one parent is prepared to whisk the little one away when her patience runs out, I say go taste some wine, rubyselbow. I certainly don't see anything intrinsically inappropriate about it. Enjoy the trip!"
You're welcome, rubyselbow. Jeesh.
Apr 25th, 2007, 11:49 AM
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Wednesday, a winery is more about the art of making wine than the fact that it is an alcoholic beverage.
At Budweiser, you are in a plant.
At a casino, you are surrounded by people drinking or gambling for a buzz.
Newbie, don't let it get to you! That phrase seems to be a catchall for people who don't like the answers they get.
At Budweiser, you are in a plant.
At a casino, you are surrounded by people drinking or gambling for a buzz.
Newbie, don't let it get to you! That phrase seems to be a catchall for people who don't like the answers they get.
Apr 25th, 2007, 11:53 AM
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NewbE, wait until someone cuts and pastes some of your words out of this thread and plops it in a thread that has nothing to do with the discussion and then said person posts dire warnings about heeding your words.
Now, THAT'S frustrating!
Oh, 'tis a complex world online!
Now, THAT'S frustrating!
Oh, 'tis a complex world online!
Apr 25th, 2007, 12:04 PM
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Thanks, starrs, that's mighty gracious of you given that we've had our disagreements.
See, if I were anti-kids-in-wineries in this discussion, rubyselbow's remark wouldn't bother me--I dish it out, and I can take it. But she's got me wrong, and after spending (wasted) time on my posts, that's frustrating.
See, if I were anti-kids-in-wineries in this discussion, rubyselbow's remark wouldn't bother me--I dish it out, and I can take it. But she's got me wrong, and after spending (wasted) time on my posts, that's frustrating.
Apr 25th, 2007, 12:08 PM
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I really didn't want to get into this conversation because it definitely has gotten way off track from the OP's question but I wanted to make a comment about some of the tasting rooms. Kybourbon had some great suggestions of places to go in Los Olivos, Solvang, Buellton, etc. However, some of the tasting rooms are just stores that have bottles of wine but not much more. Yes, one parent could visit the tasting room while the other walked around the shops with the daughter. But when my kids were little, I personally always felt nervous about them breaking things, etc. Many of the wineries in the Central Coast have outdoor areas with picnic tables, etc. I think a small child would be more comfortable in that setting. I think it's Zaca Mesa Winery that has a little hiking trail.
Anyway, just something to think about. In the Central Coast area, I just don't see the problem with stopping for a few minutes at some of the wineries so that you can take some bottles home. I definitely wouldn't do this on the weekend, though, when the wineries are crowded.
Anyway, just something to think about. In the Central Coast area, I just don't see the problem with stopping for a few minutes at some of the wineries so that you can take some bottles home. I definitely wouldn't do this on the weekend, though, when the wineries are crowded.
Apr 25th, 2007, 12:14 PM
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Oh, heck, NewbE, I've decided that everyone is going to get irritated with everyone on the board at least once. Well, maybe not LoveItaly, but probably everyone else.
I enjoy these board so much BECAUSE of the differences of opinions. I'm reminded every once in a while that not everyone appreciates a different point of view. And, that everyone will get their "panties in a wad" every once in a while - even if there was no ill intent.
The only times I really get going is when I feel the blood dripping from the knife stuck in my back - or someone who gave very ill advised (and fatal in one instance) advice on this board.
Other than that, everything else is "mice nuts".
I enjoy these board so much BECAUSE of the differences of opinions. I'm reminded every once in a while that not everyone appreciates a different point of view. And, that everyone will get their "panties in a wad" every once in a while - even if there was no ill intent.
The only times I really get going is when I feel the blood dripping from the knife stuck in my back - or someone who gave very ill advised (and fatal in one instance) advice on this board.
Other than that, everything else is "mice nuts".
Apr 25th, 2007, 12:24 PM
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Shake! (And no funny buzzer hidden in the palm of the hand, either!) ;-)
No telling. I'm always wondering with LucieV and kswl. It's about 50-50. Depending on the topic, 1/2 the time we agree & 1/2 the time we don't. But, I still like them all the time
And, LoveItaly disagrees with me a LOT of the time - but I hear about it off the boards or otherwise I would never know. I LOVE LoveItaly.
PS - Love kids too!
No telling. I'm always wondering with LucieV and kswl. It's about 50-50. Depending on the topic, 1/2 the time we agree & 1/2 the time we don't. But, I still like them all the time
And, LoveItaly disagrees with me a LOT of the time - but I hear about it off the boards or otherwise I would never know. I LOVE LoveItaly.
PS - Love kids too!
Apr 25th, 2007, 12:46 PM
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I am truly sorry, Newbe, I really have enjoyed the dialogue and difference of opinions of these posts. I should've never made that comment, mistakenly directed to the wrong person. I guess I did get my "panties in a wad" when I read someone comment on how ridiculous my original question was and it seemed that my question was taken out text, just as I did to you I guess. Anyway, my question was answered and I will stick to the shops in town.
Believe me I wholeheartedly agree with some venues being adult-only and I have no problem with signs that say "no kids allowed". I would never be offended by that. That is a business owners freedom of choice.
Again, sorry.
Believe me I wholeheartedly agree with some venues being adult-only and I have no problem with signs that say "no kids allowed". I would never be offended by that. That is a business owners freedom of choice.
Again, sorry.
Apr 25th, 2007, 12:50 PM
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You know, I think it simply depends upon the child. I have a friend whose kids have been around adults and adult situations from the very beginning. They would behave, be patient, amuse themselves with a book, and be no problem at all. Then, I have a friend whose kid is an obnoxious animal at age 9 and is clearly getting more indulged and more badly behaved with the years. I refuse to go anywhere with them if they bring Damien666 along. I don't care if it is a kid's oriented place or not. He is completely horrendous, just like his father.
Apr 25th, 2007, 07:23 PM
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Starrs - Solvang = Helen, GA except with good wine. It's the anti-Napa.
http://www.solvangca.com/1/photo/index.html
Newbe - Vineyards grow grapes,make wine, have tasting rooms, tours, gift shops and sometimes food.
The wineries/wine tastings in the towns are usually just stores to taste and sell wine. They don't grow their own grapes and they don't have any wine making equipment on site. They use facilities of other vineyards to make their wines. There are many of these in the Central Coast. Many buy their grapes and use the facilites of Bien Nacido. http://www.biennacidovineyards.com/
You will see this as part of the wine name quite a bit in the Central Coast wineries. Many of the Bien Nacido wines are excellent, although I did run across one that wasn't. Consilience (Los Olivos)Bien Nacido Pinot was fantastic. Also, in the movie Sideways, they were drinking Hitching Post Bien Nacido and raving about it.
Many of the "in town" wine tastings are actually in restaurants that cater to families, especially in Solvang, but they also make wine. Some vineyards have both - at the vineyard and a tasting room in town. I hope that explains the difference a bit.
Here's a link for some of the Central Coast vineyards/wineries. These are just the ones in Santa Barbara County. I think Paso Robles is considered Central Coast, but isn't in SB so you can google for that area.
http://www.sbcountywines.com/
http://www.solvangca.com/1/photo/index.html
Newbe - Vineyards grow grapes,make wine, have tasting rooms, tours, gift shops and sometimes food.
The wineries/wine tastings in the towns are usually just stores to taste and sell wine. They don't grow their own grapes and they don't have any wine making equipment on site. They use facilities of other vineyards to make their wines. There are many of these in the Central Coast. Many buy their grapes and use the facilites of Bien Nacido. http://www.biennacidovineyards.com/
You will see this as part of the wine name quite a bit in the Central Coast wineries. Many of the Bien Nacido wines are excellent, although I did run across one that wasn't. Consilience (Los Olivos)Bien Nacido Pinot was fantastic. Also, in the movie Sideways, they were drinking Hitching Post Bien Nacido and raving about it.
Many of the "in town" wine tastings are actually in restaurants that cater to families, especially in Solvang, but they also make wine. Some vineyards have both - at the vineyard and a tasting room in town. I hope that explains the difference a bit.
Here's a link for some of the Central Coast vineyards/wineries. These are just the ones in Santa Barbara County. I think Paso Robles is considered Central Coast, but isn't in SB so you can google for that area.
http://www.sbcountywines.com/
Apr 25th, 2007, 07:27 PM
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I've been to Solvang before. My host was actually the husband of the very first Snow White at Disneyland. He was very proud of Solvang - and his wife.
I tried to be clear that my comments were not Central Coast winery specific, but in regards to "adult venues" in general. I think the OP is very clear that she gathered enough information to make her decision regarding buying wine on her vacation. As I read it, she's going to buy wine in the stores in town.
I bought a bottle of PAMA tonight and thought of you. I streeetttcccchhhheeeeedddd the other bottle out for a long, long time. No need to anymore! Thanks for sharing the PAMA experience
I tried to be clear that my comments were not Central Coast winery specific, but in regards to "adult venues" in general. I think the OP is very clear that she gathered enough information to make her decision regarding buying wine on her vacation. As I read it, she's going to buy wine in the stores in town.
I bought a bottle of PAMA tonight and thought of you. I streeetttcccchhhheeeeedddd the other bottle out for a long, long time. No need to anymore! Thanks for sharing the PAMA experience
Apr 25th, 2007, 07:38 PM
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It appears that some posters have done a 180 and have all of a sudden spun new posts to appear differently than they truly are.
No matter how you spin it, the Central Coast is NOT the Napa/Sonoma Valley. The wineries and tasting houses are different. Nobody cares whether or not you like kids or think they should not be visible on the grounds of Central Coast wineries. We have our own lifestyle and you have yours. Don't project your attitudes on us.
The scenario that the OP painted, asking if it was appropriate to taste wine in our region in order to pick up some bottles to bring home was blown out of proportion.
The naysayers can spin B.S. all they want...you want to fall for it, more power to you. I'm not wearing a blindfold. Give me a break, I can see right through you.
Rubyselbow, as I said before, have a great trip and welcome!
No matter how you spin it, the Central Coast is NOT the Napa/Sonoma Valley. The wineries and tasting houses are different. Nobody cares whether or not you like kids or think they should not be visible on the grounds of Central Coast wineries. We have our own lifestyle and you have yours. Don't project your attitudes on us.
The scenario that the OP painted, asking if it was appropriate to taste wine in our region in order to pick up some bottles to bring home was blown out of proportion.
The naysayers can spin B.S. all they want...you want to fall for it, more power to you. I'm not wearing a blindfold. Give me a break, I can see right through you.
Rubyselbow, as I said before, have a great trip and welcome!
