Just back from a horrible trip with an 18 month old and 3 year old!!!!
May 19th, 2003, 02:24 PM
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What a wonderful place to sail! We had to dry dock every November. We had a 40'center cockpit Cutter and are grieving most every day. But, we wanted to travel more and could not do both. Her new owners took her to the Carribbean. Her name was Charla Dawne, thus my Screen Name cd. Sorry Fodorites for the personal stuff, it's just so great to meet another sailor!
What a wonderful place to sail! We had to dry dock every November. We had a 40'center cockpit Cutter and are grieving most every day. But, we wanted to travel more and could not do both. Her new owners took her to the Carribbean. Her name was Charla Dawne, thus my Screen Name cd. Sorry Fodorites for the personal stuff, it's just so great to meet another sailor!
May 19th, 2003, 02:30 PM
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O-I too read her posts and stuff just didn't add up. Wouldn't be the first time around here.
I'll send you my palm sander when we get done doing our "hole we throw money into." If it ever stops raining....
I'll send you my palm sander when we get done doing our "hole we throw money into." If it ever stops raining....
May 19th, 2003, 02:37 PM
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A summer without sailing will be a huge adjustment. Let me guess, you sail or motor out of Sandusky? And, sorry for disagreeing with a boater, but,I really think you've misjudged "TheDish".
A summer without sailing will be a huge adjustment. Let me guess, you sail or motor out of Sandusky? And, sorry for disagreeing with a boater, but,I really think you've misjudged "TheDish".
May 19th, 2003, 02:42 PM
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Can we get every fodorite in on this one?
Why are most of the critical posts from women? Can't we be a little more supportive of each other, girls? Meow, I think the claws came out today.
Some of you have too much time on your hands if you are digging up old posts just to add to your criticism.
Why are most of the critical posts from women? Can't we be a little more supportive of each other, girls? Meow, I think the claws came out today.
Some of you have too much time on your hands if you are digging up old posts just to add to your criticism.
May 19th, 2003, 02:43 PM
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cd, That was a real sacrifice, giving her up, even to travel, so I hope your travels are absolutely terrific. If you miss her daily, who knows, you might get the travel bug out of your systems and there'll be another Charla Dawne in your future. I hope so. Pretty name! You too can travel the Caribbean.
Bear with me folks...this is my last aside, but I think cd might enjoy this. Our daughter's brother-in-law, a terrific and brilliant guy, age about 35 gave up his high tech job in Austin writing gaming software, sold his house and all his possessions except his husky, bought a 23' and set sail for the Bahamas. He's keeping an on-line journal, the address of which has been published elsewhere so I doubt he would object to my posting it here too. He's got tons of pictures as well as chronicle of his trip thus far and it is fascinating reading. Popeye and I even got our pictures in his January excerpts when he came through here. This was seat of your pants learning, but what an experience--solo...I might add! I look forward to reading each new installation as he finds internet cafes and uploads new material to the net. He's developed a minor leak, and is heading back to the states, actually beginning to miss work...or using his mind. Here's the address...think you'd enjoy it all! http://www.svprana.net/
Happy trails, cd...and may your trails turn back to sails one day down the road!
Bear with me folks...this is my last aside, but I think cd might enjoy this. Our daughter's brother-in-law, a terrific and brilliant guy, age about 35 gave up his high tech job in Austin writing gaming software, sold his house and all his possessions except his husky, bought a 23' and set sail for the Bahamas. He's keeping an on-line journal, the address of which has been published elsewhere so I doubt he would object to my posting it here too. He's got tons of pictures as well as chronicle of his trip thus far and it is fascinating reading. Popeye and I even got our pictures in his January excerpts when he came through here. This was seat of your pants learning, but what an experience--solo...I might add! I look forward to reading each new installation as he finds internet cafes and uploads new material to the net. He's developed a minor leak, and is heading back to the states, actually beginning to miss work...or using his mind. Here's the address...think you'd enjoy it all! http://www.svprana.net/
Happy trails, cd...and may your trails turn back to sails one day down the road!
May 19th, 2003, 03:00 PM
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OMG! Thanks for the site, I will tune in! And again, sorry Fodorites, but I've got to relate! Our first sailboat was a 24' and once, five hours from St Joe MI (where we were putting her into drydock) she developed a leak, cutlass bearing to our propellar shaft. On that boat, we had no auto pilot, so I handled the wheel in 5 foot waves and sang "Nearer My God To Thee" while my husband bailed water!! That poor guy to be alone! Let me know when he reaches shore!
OMG! Thanks for the site, I will tune in! And again, sorry Fodorites, but I've got to relate! Our first sailboat was a 24' and once, five hours from St Joe MI (where we were putting her into drydock) she developed a leak, cutlass bearing to our propellar shaft. On that boat, we had no auto pilot, so I handled the wheel in 5 foot waves and sang "Nearer My God To Thee" while my husband bailed water!! That poor guy to be alone! Let me know when he reaches shore!
May 19th, 2003, 03:03 PM
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cd-A friend of ours was taking on water so he called the coast guard to come help. The Coast Guard gave him a pump to pump out the water and did a safety inspection while they were there. He had all his safety equipment and they passed him.
May 19th, 2003, 03:06 PM
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We are lucky cd. If you are ever in our area give us a shout.
As for the dish, I get really irritated with people who whine about their kids. We went through a lot to have kids, miscarriages etc. To me kids are a gift and we should enjoy them, not complain about how much work they are etc....
As for the dish, I get really irritated with people who whine about their kids. We went through a lot to have kids, miscarriages etc. To me kids are a gift and we should enjoy them, not complain about how much work they are etc....
May 19th, 2003, 03:21 PM
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Wow, it never ceases to amaze me how the subject of kids brings out such defensiveness, sanctimony and judgment! I don't have any myself, but it looks like the hardest job in the world (to steal a line from Oprah), and I wonder why a post like the Dish's doesn't arouse sympathy and support instead (of course, in some posters, it did). Don't kids come in all flavors? Some travel well, some don't.
May 19th, 2003, 03:23 PM
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I know I promised...but a few more quick asides!
cd...no, Interlux Schooner. Painstaking work. I had an email from him today, sent Saturday (!) and he was still in the Bahamas then, waiting on just the right weather it sounds like. Hopefully he'll find another boat to make the crossing with him. Your leak tale...good grief!!! I might have sung something a bit faster than "Nearer My God to thee" (cute
so your husband, keeping time to the music, would bail faster! lol
buckeyemom--I dunno...when I read the months she is doing everything, the ages certainly added up correctly. She's just a lucky traveler I think, and perhaps with lots of FF miles...but who knows...we've all had the wool pulled over our eyes here before and it wouldn't be the first time. One trip coming up in the fall and another 6 mos from then sounds OK though.
Did you have a lot of damage from the 'coon? How awful! We've got a couple of Force 5's on the beach here and something got into the dock box...two sails belonging to a friend were shredded for nesting material I guess. Fortunately our Force 5 sail was in a closet here. Has your season begun and are you back on the water? Sounds like you both sail BIG boats!
cd...no, Interlux Schooner. Painstaking work. I had an email from him today, sent Saturday (!) and he was still in the Bahamas then, waiting on just the right weather it sounds like. Hopefully he'll find another boat to make the crossing with him. Your leak tale...good grief!!! I might have sung something a bit faster than "Nearer My God to thee" (cute
so your husband, keeping time to the music, would bail faster! lolbuckeyemom--I dunno...when I read the months she is doing everything, the ages certainly added up correctly. She's just a lucky traveler I think, and perhaps with lots of FF miles...but who knows...we've all had the wool pulled over our eyes here before and it wouldn't be the first time. One trip coming up in the fall and another 6 mos from then sounds OK though.
Did you have a lot of damage from the 'coon? How awful! We've got a couple of Force 5's on the beach here and something got into the dock box...two sails belonging to a friend were shredded for nesting material I guess. Fortunately our Force 5 sail was in a closet here. Has your season begun and are you back on the water? Sounds like you both sail BIG boats!
May 19th, 2003, 03:54 PM
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The problem with the Coast Guard is that once on board they usually really mess up your ship. On our bigger boat we had a manual bidge plus an electric one so we never had that problem again but it was very scary!! We will be moving back to Ohio next year, (Cuyahoga Falls) so perhaps we might be seeing you!! What's your boat's name? Is she a trawler?
The problem with the Coast Guard is that once on board they usually really mess up your ship. On our bigger boat we had a manual bidge plus an electric one so we never had that problem again but it was very scary!! We will be moving back to Ohio next year, (Cuyahoga Falls) so perhaps we might be seeing you!! What's your boat's name? Is she a trawler?
May 19th, 2003, 03:59 PM
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I sent your daughters brother-in-law a message and enjoyed the web site you sent!! My husband used Interlux on our hull and found it to be a good product. He really did prefer Sickens for the wood however but has no idea how it would do in salt water as we are not familiar with salt water at all. Thanks for all your correspondence! it has been fun!
I sent your daughters brother-in-law a message and enjoyed the web site you sent!! My husband used Interlux on our hull and found it to be a good product. He really did prefer Sickens for the wood however but has no idea how it would do in salt water as we are not familiar with salt water at all. Thanks for all your correspondence! it has been fun!
May 19th, 2003, 04:27 PM
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It's called "Sikkens and it works better than a varnish. If you put two coats on - then you have great looking teak for about two/three years. You've gotta try it Olive Oyl!! It saves a lot of work..
I'm really surprised - here I took off to help get some work done at the marina on our powerboat and come back to this - I don't know whether to feel sorry for TheDish or not. She does have four kids though and it's kind of like two separate families - it AIN'T easy when those kiddos are little.
I do have one question though - How old is the "old" Mother-in-law?
Y'all has lot of fun with this one and it was hilarious reading. Thanks for a great one!!
It's called "Sikkens and it works better than a varnish. If you put two coats on - then you have great looking teak for about two/three years. You've gotta try it Olive Oyl!! It saves a lot of work..
I'm really surprised - here I took off to help get some work done at the marina on our powerboat and come back to this - I don't know whether to feel sorry for TheDish or not. She does have four kids though and it's kind of like two separate families - it AIN'T easy when those kiddos are little.
I do have one question though - How old is the "old" Mother-in-law?
Y'all has lot of fun with this one and it was hilarious reading. Thanks for a great one!!
May 19th, 2003, 05:11 PM
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Sikkens...too funny. That name meant nothing to me, but I was going to tell you about the product a lot of people use here and my brother uses on his boat in Mystic...but I didn't know how to spell it, so punched what I thought might be the spelling into Google and guess what came up? My word was Cetol, and the website came up "Sikkens Cetol". Yes, it *is* longer lasting than varnish, no doubt about it, and works here, but I do have one gripe with it and don't know if this is a factor of the sun here and something you don't contend with. It tends to turn orangey...like Man-tan used to do to people. (Am I dating myself? LOL) It will go over a year, but not two here (intense sun)...and unlike varnish, I don't think you have to sand between coats, right? Heaven! Our varnish was in great shape when we got the boat 3 years ago so all we've had to do is maintenance...never going down to bare wood. Sand to scuff it up, then apply 2 new coats, sanding between them. My bible is Rebecca Wittman's Brightwork: The Art of Finishing Wood. What may be in our future is not Cetol, but a bigger boat, and this one with aluminum toe rails! Wood is pretty but pretty is getting tiresome too. That's the only portion that I really mind doing....but selling this one would hurt (so I knew how you felt). We do love her--but want to move up some and get a few more bells and whistles (furling main, my dream, refrigeration and AC, Popeye's). That sander would sure take some of the work out,Buckeyemom but I worry about gouging it or the deck? We're talking 2" high toe rails.
Sorry guys...wish there was email here, truly. I apologize for boring everyone else.
Back to topic at hand, kids and vacations. I've always been a little amused when people ask what there is to do for a 3 or x year old in an area (esp an area like ours where the beach is the thing). Ours seemed to be wonderful about amusing themselves, especially at the beach, but perhaps we were just lucky. We had two very laid back kids. That may be the rub. Some will go almost anywhere happily, others, set them down in the best possible setting, and it will still be disaster because of their dispositions. Most all of the younger set though 18 mos, including our laid back kids, HATE disruption of their routines. I was a slave to their schedules when they were toddlers. We'd go, but they'd eat and sleep on schedule. That just seemed to work best for us...but even then, the strange environment is disruptive to a degree. Maintaining as many variables as possible the way they had been at home seemed the best way to keep them (everyone!) on an even keel.
Yes, it *is* longer lasting than varnish, no doubt about it, and works here, but I do have one gripe with it and don't know if this is a factor of the sun here and something you don't contend with. It tends to turn orangey...like Man-tan used to do to people. (Am I dating myself? LOL) It will go over a year, but not two here (intense sun)...and unlike varnish, I don't think you have to sand between coats, right? Heaven! Our varnish was in great shape when we got the boat 3 years ago so all we've had to do is maintenance...never going down to bare wood. Sand to scuff it up, then apply 2 new coats, sanding between them. My bible is Rebecca Wittman's Brightwork: The Art of Finishing Wood. What may be in our future is not Cetol, but a bigger boat, and this one with aluminum toe rails! Wood is pretty but pretty is getting tiresome too. That's the only portion that I really mind doing....but selling this one would hurt (so I knew how you felt). We do love her--but want to move up some and get a few more bells and whistles (furling main, my dream, refrigeration and AC, Popeye's). That sander would sure take some of the work out,Buckeyemom but I worry about gouging it or the deck? We're talking 2" high toe rails.Sorry guys...wish there was email here, truly. I apologize for boring everyone else.
Back to topic at hand, kids and vacations. I've always been a little amused when people ask what there is to do for a 3 or x year old in an area (esp an area like ours where the beach is the thing). Ours seemed to be wonderful about amusing themselves, especially at the beach, but perhaps we were just lucky. We had two very laid back kids. That may be the rub. Some will go almost anywhere happily, others, set them down in the best possible setting, and it will still be disaster because of their dispositions. Most all of the younger set though 18 mos, including our laid back kids, HATE disruption of their routines. I was a slave to their schedules when they were toddlers. We'd go, but they'd eat and sleep on schedule. That just seemed to work best for us...but even then, the strange environment is disruptive to a degree. Maintaining as many variables as possible the way they had been at home seemed the best way to keep them (everyone!) on an even keel.
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