July weather in Vegas
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A quick web search will tell you that the highest air temp ever recorded was 136 degrees in Libya in 1922. Maybe the temperature of the asphalt at Hoover Dam was 140 -- that seems plausible.
Incidentally, I always enjoy it when people say that they were in Florida (or North Carolina or Louisiana) and the temperature was 98 degrees with 98% humidity, which is impossible.
Incidentally, I always enjoy it when people say that they were in Florida (or North Carolina or Louisiana) and the temperature was 98 degrees with 98% humidity, which is impossible.
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So "hot stuff' do you want to attempt to defend your statement that it can't be 98 degrees with 98% humidity?
As stated, your contention is not correct, if you're referring to relative humidity (the most commonly used gauge of humidity).
Care to comment?
As stated, your contention is not correct, if you're referring to relative humidity (the most commonly used gauge of humidity).
Care to comment?
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To have 98% r.h. at 98 degrees you would have to have a dew point of about 96F, which has never been recorded anywhere in the US (because it doesn't occur in nature). Dew points in the 70s are considered tropical and dew points much above 80 are exceedingly rare. On those really hot, muggy days we get in the southeastern US we frequently have relative humidities near 100% in the morning, when the dew point is well into the 70s and the air temp is about the same, but as the air temperature goes up and the dew point remains constant (or even rises a bit), the r.h. drops. That's why dew point is a much more useful measurement of stickiness than the relative humidity.
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From
http://veggie.org/run/humidity.shtml
(under the heading of "A Common Misconception"):
One last thing if you ever hear someone say it was 90 degrees and the humidity was 90%, that has never happened in Cincinnati, (and unless the greenhouse effect goes into overdrive never will). 90 deg/90% requires a dew point of 85.5 degrees. In Cincinnati the highest ever dew point was 81 deg. for just a few minutes.
http://veggie.org/run/humidity.shtml
(under the heading of "A Common Misconception"):
One last thing if you ever hear someone say it was 90 degrees and the humidity was 90%, that has never happened in Cincinnati, (and unless the greenhouse effect goes into overdrive never will). 90 deg/90% requires a dew point of 85.5 degrees. In Cincinnati the highest ever dew point was 81 deg. for just a few minutes.
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One more, from USA Today's "Ask Jack" weather column:
The problem arises when people assume that really humid air has to have a high number for the relative humidity. Sometimes you'll hear people say that "it's 90 degrees and 90 percent humidity today." No part of the USA gets that humid. A 90-degree, 90% relative humidity would require a dew point of 87 degrees.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/askjack/wahumid.htm
The problem arises when people assume that really humid air has to have a high number for the relative humidity. Sometimes you'll hear people say that "it's 90 degrees and 90 percent humidity today." No part of the USA gets that humid. A 90-degree, 90% relative humidity would require a dew point of 87 degrees.
http://www.usatoday.com/weather/askjack/wahumid.htm
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Carol, check out the historical data for July 5th in Cincinnati at the Weather Underground page. The highest relative humidity measured all day long that day was 89% at 7:22 in the morning, when the air temp was 75 and the dew point was 71. By 1:55, which is when you say it was 93 degrees with 97% humidity, it was actually 90 degrees with 52% humidity.
Sorry, folks, temperatures over 90 with concurrent humidities over 90% just DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES. Relative humidity is all but meaningless in regards to how dry or sticky the air feels. The dew point is what counts.
Sorry, folks, temperatures over 90 with concurrent humidities over 90% just DOES NOT HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES. Relative humidity is all but meaningless in regards to how dry or sticky the air feels. The dew point is what counts.
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See, this is why I brought this up in the first place -- people just will not be convinced of this. They're so used to thinking that a hot day means 90 degrees and 90% humidity that they won't let go of the idea no matter how much hard scientific evidence they see otherwise.
It doesn't matter what the date is, Carol, you're not going to find figures like the one you're claiming to have seen. Go look up observations for Singapore, which is widely known to be one of the most humid places in the world, and you're not going to find 95 degrees and 95% humidity there, either. Bombay? Nope. Hong Kong? Nope.
As for whether I have too much time on my hands, it takes literally about 30 seconds to go look and find weather observations for just about anywhere in the world.
It doesn't matter what the date is, Carol, you're not going to find figures like the one you're claiming to have seen. Go look up observations for Singapore, which is widely known to be one of the most humid places in the world, and you're not going to find 95 degrees and 95% humidity there, either. Bombay? Nope. Hong Kong? Nope.
As for whether I have too much time on my hands, it takes literally about 30 seconds to go look and find weather observations for just about anywhere in the world.
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Oh, give it a rest, you two, this is clearly an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object. What Hot Stuff says is correct everywhere in the world EXCEPT for Cincinnati, which is a magical place where the laws of nature don't apply and "a lot" is one word. Also, the hottest temperature ever recorded on earth is 136 EXCEPT for Hoover Dam, which was 140 the day Kim was there.
Also the sun, which one of the gods pulls across the sky in a chariot, revolves around the earth, which is balanced on the back of an elephant. And that kid from the Life cereal commercials died from mixing Pop Rocks and Coke.
Also the sun, which one of the gods pulls across the sky in a chariot, revolves around the earth, which is balanced on the back of an elephant. And that kid from the Life cereal commercials died from mixing Pop Rocks and Coke.
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I just returned and yes it is hot. We spent our days at the pool on a raft or hopping in and out of water around every 15 minutes to cool off. The casinos are very air conditioned. It is pretty hot to be walking from casino to casino, and we prefered taxi's.