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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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wow I went on this site to get away from those yankees.What a diapointing series for us New Yorkers.there will probably be some changes made but if I were Joe I would try and go somewhere that baseball does not exist,Maybe the moon
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Joe could go to Marine Park in Brooklyn, that's where he's from.Maybe the Dodger's could use him
Torre is a class act, as several people have already said. No sour grapes, no excuses. Steinbrenner is lucky to have him!
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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Maybe Joe could go to Scotland. Who's your laddie?
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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Hey Jacketwatch - Terry is called Tito also by everyone here. Trust me I've listened to every interview, every press conference, every replay for the entire year.
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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In Washington DC househunting. The city is getting a team and he would be great for it.
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Who is joe torre??????? I want to spill my coffee too!!!!!!!
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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Major League baseball manager, New York Yankees, played catcher in playing days, grew up in Brooklyn. If he gets fired maybe he could open his own restaurant, call it Catch a Torres.
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Fracona.....hmmm....Franconia. That's it! He should spend a few winter months in Franconia Notch, New Hampshire. Unfortunately, I think most of the AMC facilities will be closed, so he'll have to stay in one of the motels in the greter Berlin (preonounced BER-lin) area. Don't forget your snowshoes, Joe.
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 07:04 PM
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Joe Torre has ALWAYS been accepted here in Boston by the fans whether at a restaurant or cafe...He'd be welcome at Fenway by all of the Red Sox Nation.... He''s a class act.
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Old Oct 21st, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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I don't begrudge the Red Sox fans a little crowing over bending, if not breaking, the Curse of the Bambino.

But Joe Torre is a class guy. I remember when he was in Atlanta as a player, and I bemoned the fact that he left.

Not Hall of Fame material? I don't think so!

If Joe goes anywhere, I hope he throws his cell phone in the sewer so he cannot be pestered by Steinbummer and his gigantic egotistical demeanor.

I thought Joe Torre handled the post game interview with a lot of class.
He is not the guy who ran off Roger Clemens and Andy Pettit. Nor was he the guy who thinks he can buy success by hiring expensive mercenaries like A-Rod.

Baseball is a team game, and the Red Sox got up off the deck and won. Now, the Red Sox fans need to show some class and restraint themselves.

It is a rotten shame that a 21 year old girl died as a result of wounds inflicted during an altercation between the police and a crowd of fans.

One can direct blame both ways. But blame does not resurrect! I feel for everybody involved in the tragedy.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 04:57 AM
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Mr. Brown, if you had read my post accurately, you would understand that I have endorsed Torre for Cooperstown. And, if Torre is fired, I hope my hometown of Washington signs him up right away.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 05:09 AM
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Torre is a class act. I know of no Sox fan who despise him.

I'm sure all baseball fans prayers are with the Snelgrove family.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 05:18 AM
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The Boston Police Department are taking the blame for the death of the young lady. They fired indiscrimently without warning to the opposite side where there were trouble makers. There were more than 60,000 fans next to EMPTY Fenway Park. The BPD had video cameras on buildings and lamp posts and will go after the people who caused damage..I saw on tv a tree climbed and ripped apart in Kenmore Square. Unlike many other parks Fenway is in the middle of Boston surrounded by colleges..The colleges will take action against their guilty students.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 05:36 AM
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This from a devoted Sox fan:

Torre -- class act, great manager.
Jeter & B. Williams -- guys who hustle and play the game the way it's supposed to be played.
A-Rod: Overpaid whiner.
Steinbrenner: C'mon. even New Yorkers have to hate this guy. And what is with people like him and Donald Trump? Something in the water?

Any disagreement, Craig & Ryan?
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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ARod, overpaid, definately. Overpaid by the Yanks not really as Texas is paying 1/3rd of his annual salary. Whiner, maybe. Carefully calculated public image, certainly.

Steinbrenner-10 years ago, most Yankee fans would have agreed. However, you can't fault the guy for trying to put a winner on the field. He takes his increased revenue and he plows it into trying to build a winner. Numerous other owners take the luxury tax dollars paid by Steinbrenner and pocket it. Did they lose this year, yep. But, if you knew anything about their history, you can't argue with what he's accomplished since 1973.

In terms of Trump, anyone who has worked in NY financial circles has viewed Trump as a showboating buffon for years. The fact that America thinks he's "a great businessman" is a joke.

BTW, if you are trying to infer that Steinbrenner is solely to blame for baseball's problems, I suggest you realize he has a 1/30th vote on league matters and that you look at the escalation of salaries by EVERY team following expansion and their Fox deal from several years ago.

Also, while ARod and his 1-19 after game 3 is noticeable. Any Yankee fan who understands the game views Tom Gordon as the reason they lost, with Kevin Brown a close second.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 06:00 AM
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I wasn't going to get into the Brown/Gordon thing, as I thought most fans had figured that out.

Nice to know Trump's not fooling anyone. I could tell you a (long) story sometime about how he bankrupted small contractors -- some of whom I know -- while buying his girlfriends giant diamond rings.

As for Big Stein, I see him as a symbol of what's wrong with baseball. Also, he's spent so much money that sooner or later the shotgun approach works -- and sometimes fails. So every time he signs a Roger Clemens, it looks smart. Then along comes Kevin Brown.

And I can't believe I'm having a civilized discourse with a Yankee fan.

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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 06:22 AM
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I would suggest that Steinbrenner makes a very easy, very public target to criticize. But, if his ownership was SO detrimental to the game, then why is it that the other owners who can outvote him 29-1, haven't on issues like revenue sharing?

If the game is "being ruined" why is it that 2004 saw baseball have it largest EVER single season attendance and 10 of the 11 days with the highest total attendance came in the last 4 years?

http://minnesota.twins.mlb.com/NASAp..._mlb&fext=.jsp

There are a few reasons why teams publicly criticize Steinbrenner and privately praise him. He's makes an easy target that deflects criticism for what some other owner's do - like cry "poverty" while pocketing the luxury tax, like crying "poverty" to get new stadiums, like not answering the question of what they generate on a cash flow basis.

I would also suggest that if you look at the attendance stats for every team they've faced on the road (except for Boston), the Yanks are the single biggest cash generator that a home team has. Arizona sold out 4 games this year - opening day, and every game of the Yankees series. Same with the Reds last year.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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Ryan - I couldn't agree with you more about Steinbrenner. He is only doing what other owners would do if they were in the same market as him. Money alone doesn't make the Ny Yankees a great team. You have to spend the money wisely. Sometimes the Yankees don't but more often than not they do. Its their decisions that make them successful.

I've got tons of respect for Torre - he's a great ambassador for the game.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 06:48 AM
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Bennie: Actually on Sportscenter this morning they referred to him as "Terry" and then "Tito" in the next breath.
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Old Oct 22nd, 2004 | 07:03 AM
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Ryan - once again I can't add to or fault anything you have said. K_999_9 - I for one appreciate the civilized discourse.
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