In need of some help
May 13th, 2002, 11:56 AM
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Mona,
There are some nice breakfast spots on Union Street as well as Chestnut (both within walking distance from the hotel). There is always IHOP on Lombard... a chain that has cheap breakfasts 24 hours a day... I hate the coffee but love the pancakes.
Unfortunately, the best breakfast spot on Union, Doidge's, has gone out of business. But you will have plenty of other choices.
Peter D's (Van Ness at Pacific)
Union Street Cafe (Union Street)
Perry's (Union Street)
There are more... this is just a start.
There are some nice breakfast spots on Union Street as well as Chestnut (both within walking distance from the hotel). There is always IHOP on Lombard... a chain that has cheap breakfasts 24 hours a day... I hate the coffee but love the pancakes.
Unfortunately, the best breakfast spot on Union, Doidge's, has gone out of business. But you will have plenty of other choices.
Peter D's (Van Ness at Pacific)
Union Street Cafe (Union Street)
Perry's (Union Street)
There are more... this is just a start.
May 13th, 2002, 12:40 PM
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Yeah, money magazine didn't do one this year: "In the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks, we decided to abandon our plans to provide our traditional rankings of "The Best Places to Live". Instead, we decided to celebrate the city we love in words and photos that highlight the mix of people and places that make New York such a rewarding place to live."
If they had you can bet San Jose would have taken a dive as did the dot coms. Everything about SJ has gone down the tubes recently. All the big deals to improve downtown are collapsing every day. It's always gonna be San Jose no matter what you SJ cheerleaders say about it.
If they had you can bet San Jose would have taken a dive as did the dot coms. Everything about SJ has gone down the tubes recently. All the big deals to improve downtown are collapsing every day. It's always gonna be San Jose no matter what you SJ cheerleaders say about it.
May 13th, 2002, 12:45 PM
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xxx, you are revealing yourself. You've pointed us to this article in Money Magazine many times. It is outdated information as much has changed in silicon valley since this article was printed. Also, for most people, Money Magazine is not the measure of a great tourist destination. I wouldn't call San Jose "third world" but methinks you praise it too much.
May 13th, 2002, 12:57 PM
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x, traveling man,
I guess that your education did not go beyond high school. Notice I said the "most recent" Money Magazine survey.
Center City San Jose has most definitely been and continues with its revitalization. Just recently,the City approved a high rise luxury apartment complex along first street, will be building an impressive City Hall, is in the process of building the only joint City/University library in the country, and this does not include the many new hotel rooms and office space downtown, and the opening of the Improv Comedy Club in the Jose Theater, among other developmenmts. I can't seem to figure out why you are in denial
I guess that your education did not go beyond high school. Notice I said the "most recent" Money Magazine survey.
Center City San Jose has most definitely been and continues with its revitalization. Just recently,the City approved a high rise luxury apartment complex along first street, will be building an impressive City Hall, is in the process of building the only joint City/University library in the country, and this does not include the many new hotel rooms and office space downtown, and the opening of the Improv Comedy Club in the Jose Theater, among other developmenmts. I can't seem to figure out why you are in denial
May 13th, 2002, 01:04 PM
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Oh yes here's the latest on SJ:
A sour economy has pushed commercial vacancies to 15 percent. Work has yet to start on the House of Blues, a Hollywood-headquartered nightclub chain once scheduled to open downtown last summer with the help of $5.7 million in city subsidies. Opening of the comedy theater has been pushed back to this fall.
And in March the Palladium deal collapsed -- either because of the economic downturn or the city's refusal to pad the project with more money, depending on the source who's talking.
For all its reputation as a city of high-tech innovation and creativity, San Jose has struggled for decades -- even during boom times -- to create a downtown that consistently attracts retail businesses and shoppers.
Loyal customers, downtown workers and events at nearby art houses and the Compaq Center have kept many newer restaurants and veteran businesses afloat. But on the average early weekday evening, the downtown core can still be a lonely walk among graffiti-etched windows bearing "space available" signs.
In the '80s and '90s, the city, acting through its Redevelopment Agency, tried to lure San Jose's suburban residents downtown by subsidizing construction of high-end retail stores. The $27 million Pavilion shopping center opened on First Street in 1989 with 119,000 square feet of tony shops.
But in less than two years, the inward-facing mall was almost half-empty, the victim, some say, of a bad design and a tenant list that included many of the same chain stores that could be found in outlying malls closer to homes and offering free parking.
The Redevelopment Agency tried again in 1996 when it pumped $5 million into a United Artists movie theater next to the Pavilion. Without enough moviegoers, it closed in early 1999.
Now, after the Palladium pullout, city officials are talking with CIM, a Southern California-based company that has proposed a smaller, more concentrated revitalization plan for the city's downtown.
A sour economy has pushed commercial vacancies to 15 percent. Work has yet to start on the House of Blues, a Hollywood-headquartered nightclub chain once scheduled to open downtown last summer with the help of $5.7 million in city subsidies. Opening of the comedy theater has been pushed back to this fall.
And in March the Palladium deal collapsed -- either because of the economic downturn or the city's refusal to pad the project with more money, depending on the source who's talking.
For all its reputation as a city of high-tech innovation and creativity, San Jose has struggled for decades -- even during boom times -- to create a downtown that consistently attracts retail businesses and shoppers.
Loyal customers, downtown workers and events at nearby art houses and the Compaq Center have kept many newer restaurants and veteran businesses afloat. But on the average early weekday evening, the downtown core can still be a lonely walk among graffiti-etched windows bearing "space available" signs.
In the '80s and '90s, the city, acting through its Redevelopment Agency, tried to lure San Jose's suburban residents downtown by subsidizing construction of high-end retail stores. The $27 million Pavilion shopping center opened on First Street in 1989 with 119,000 square feet of tony shops.
But in less than two years, the inward-facing mall was almost half-empty, the victim, some say, of a bad design and a tenant list that included many of the same chain stores that could be found in outlying malls closer to homes and offering free parking.
The Redevelopment Agency tried again in 1996 when it pumped $5 million into a United Artists movie theater next to the Pavilion. Without enough moviegoers, it closed in early 1999.
Now, after the Palladium pullout, city officials are talking with CIM, a Southern California-based company that has proposed a smaller, more concentrated revitalization plan for the city's downtown.
May 13th, 2002, 01:08 PM
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So, I just went to the Money Magazine site http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/SANFR_CA.html
San Francisco "Quality of Life" is ranked number 4 for the Leisure Index and number 3 for the Arts Index... Hmm not bad.
San Jose is ranked #11 and #111 respectively. http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/SANJO_CA.html
Now chill on this silly argument.
San Francisco "Quality of Life" is ranked number 4 for the Leisure Index and number 3 for the Arts Index... Hmm not bad.
San Jose is ranked #11 and #111 respectively. http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/details/SANJO_CA.html
Now chill on this silly argument.
May 13th, 2002, 01:16 PM
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X,
The Palladium deal was not the right thing for the City from the start. What the City has planned will be much more successful because of the plans to help the current businesses coexist harmoniously with the new development and preserve the historic buildings in Center City. Therefore, the Center City core will have a character all its own rather than the cookie cutter chains than Palladium wanted to promote that are already out in the suburbs.
The problem with the United Artists theaters was not the number of movie goers, but the second rate films that United Artists was playing. All the top films were being show at the AMC and Century theaters.
Of course let us look at San Francisco's Downtown. It also closes up on weekday evenings, has it's share of graffiti, urine soaked doorways, and panhandlers.
Bottom line, any city will have its share of undesirable places. That is what living in a city is all about. So if you don't like seing that type of stuff, I would suggest that you hook up your trailer and move out to the country.
The Palladium deal was not the right thing for the City from the start. What the City has planned will be much more successful because of the plans to help the current businesses coexist harmoniously with the new development and preserve the historic buildings in Center City. Therefore, the Center City core will have a character all its own rather than the cookie cutter chains than Palladium wanted to promote that are already out in the suburbs.
The problem with the United Artists theaters was not the number of movie goers, but the second rate films that United Artists was playing. All the top films were being show at the AMC and Century theaters.
Of course let us look at San Francisco's Downtown. It also closes up on weekday evenings, has it's share of graffiti, urine soaked doorways, and panhandlers.
Bottom line, any city will have its share of undesirable places. That is what living in a city is all about. So if you don't like seing that type of stuff, I would suggest that you hook up your trailer and move out to the country.
May 13th, 2002, 01:22 PM
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You crack me up David err... XXX. Any time someone tells the truth about SJ you tell everyone to disregard us and then go on to alledge that we live in trailers. What a sad, sorry life you lead.
BTW: Don't go on about how I'm all for SF. I don't live there, never have. I will not ever suggest that a traveller coming to our fine state make a stop in San Jose. And neither should you. It's unfair to suggest that someone spend any part of their CA experience in or around SJ.
BTW: Don't go on about how I'm all for SF. I don't live there, never have. I will not ever suggest that a traveller coming to our fine state make a stop in San Jose. And neither should you. It's unfair to suggest that someone spend any part of their CA experience in or around SJ.
May 13th, 2002, 01:22 PM
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sharon's Pet peeve: people who only have the courage to state opinions when they can do so anonymously.
I quote Money Magazine only because a poster above did.
Mona,
My apologies for what this post has become. I hope you have the information you need. If not, try a new post.
Sharon
I quote Money Magazine only because a poster above did.
Mona,
My apologies for what this post has become. I hope you have the information you need. If not, try a new post.
Sharon
May 13th, 2002, 01:36 PM
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Two years have gone by and things have really changed in and around SJ. It's sad that some can't get a grip on that fact. It doesn't really matter what a magazine ranks cities as does it? Anyone who took one trip there to check things out would happily return to their home city glad to have not made fortune's list!
