Help with New York Restaurants.
#21
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For casual somewhat inexpensive, Cabrito in the West village is quite good and just opened a month and a half ago. Southwestern/ mexican food--not tex-mex. The cocktails are good. Most of the recipe's are from chef's mother-in-law and adapted. A lot of stews. A lot of meat on the menu. There is a fish stew on the menu that is really great. Watermelon margaritas are stellar and the only sugar in them is from the watermelon juice.
**biased, chef is a friend and I have been eating some of what is on the menu for years when mom cooked it for us all during her visits to the city.
**biased, chef is a friend and I have been eating some of what is on the menu for years when mom cooked it for us all during her visits to the city.
#22
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Hey, I guess you can always stop at IN-n-Out burger on the way home, right?! ..... just kidding (I actually overheard this being said at a wedding where the food was underwhelming to nonexistent which surprised the guests since the gift registry was at Neiman-Marcus).
#23
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Being scattered--I seemed to have imaginary typed a sentence. This should have read regarding WD-50:
If there is something that you are dying to try that is on the tasting, request to order it, server will ask chef and chef usually says yes. I suggest doing a wine pairing even though it only appears to be offered with the tasting menu. A wine pairing is usually a better value than getting a bottle, especially one that matches the whole table's needs.
If there is something that you are dying to try that is on the tasting, request to order it, server will ask chef and chef usually says yes. I suggest doing a wine pairing even though it only appears to be offered with the tasting menu. A wine pairing is usually a better value than getting a bottle, especially one that matches the whole table's needs.
#24
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The portion sizes at WD-50 are not small, and the tasting portions are typically sized tasting portions for New York City. (But I'm generally not a fan of tasting menus and rarely order them -- Telepan being one exception.)
I've dined at Cookshop 3-4 times after touring Chelsea art galleries, and it is excellent.
The "new" Picholine is also incredible and has the most amazing cheese selection in the city.
If you'd like to try a new Italian place, Scarpetta on 14th in Meatpacking is great.
I've dined at Cookshop 3-4 times after touring Chelsea art galleries, and it is excellent.
The "new" Picholine is also incredible and has the most amazing cheese selection in the city.
If you'd like to try a new Italian place, Scarpetta on 14th in Meatpacking is great.
#25
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shhh - gekko don't tell more people about Scarpetta!!! We wanted to keep it a little quiet for a bit longer! It's REALLY good - we had dinner there 2 Sundays ago - I'm still thinking about the pasta and the and the black sea bass and the goat!
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Thank you to everyone for your responses to this thread. I knew that I could count on Fodorites for a variety of opinions and suggestions ! All your responses are valuable information and I now very much look forward to dining at WD-50 and reporting back to you on my experience there.
I leave for NY tomorrow morning.The primary purpose of this trip is to celebrate and support my nephew/godson’s first solo art show in NY. He was accepted into an artist-in training program with the Whitney 3 years ago after obtaining his MFA in Canada, and has remained in NY since, developing his craft in various parts of the city. So after visiting the exhibition, we’re going for a celebratory dinner to WD-50 and a chance to catch up.
Thanks for the many other dining suggestions. I’m also hoping to get to Picholine, Cookshop and Aqua Grill either for lunch or dinner. All look and sound great.
Thanks again everyone. I’ll post a report back when I return.
M
I leave for NY tomorrow morning.The primary purpose of this trip is to celebrate and support my nephew/godson’s first solo art show in NY. He was accepted into an artist-in training program with the Whitney 3 years ago after obtaining his MFA in Canada, and has remained in NY since, developing his craft in various parts of the city. So after visiting the exhibition, we’re going for a celebratory dinner to WD-50 and a chance to catch up.
Thanks for the many other dining suggestions. I’m also hoping to get to Picholine, Cookshop and Aqua Grill either for lunch or dinner. All look and sound great.
Thanks again everyone. I’ll post a report back when I return.
M
#29
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You should really try the Mustang Group's restaurants. Three of them are located on 7th avenue alone. They are Mustang Harry's, Mustang Sally's, and the more upscale Seven Bar and Grill. Another is Jack's Restaurant and Bar on 147 W 40th Street. They are all a part of the "Mustang Group" persona and vary from one another. There is something to be discovered and enjoyed in each of these fine establishments. Happy eating!!
#31
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I ate at WD-50 a few years ago, and I didn't think much about it. I really liked Clinton Fresh Food, though I'd only eaten there just twice, I think. Once, I think, when Dufresne was still there, and once after they changed chefs. I hope that this doesn't dissuade you from trying this out yourself, of course. CFF did start something special, in my opinion.
I've been to Cookshop, and well, I didn't think much of it either.
I've eaten at Aquavit -- but I think in the more casual part of the restaurant. I've friends who swore by this restaurant, but again, I didn't think much about what I had.
One restaurant that I didn't mention on the other thread on NYC restaurants I responded to -- Barbuto. It's (or was) a Jonathan Waxman (I think?) restaurant, and I actually quite enjoyed the casual vibes the one afternoon I was there. Waxman has had his ups and downs, from what I gather, but this is slightly spruced up comfort food and done well (I think he's known for his roasted chicken, which I don't think I had, however). However it's been at least a year or two since I ate there.
If you're looking for something a little more casual, I can also recommend 202, which is the restaurant at Nicole Farhi in Chelsea Market. I've only had brunch there, but the food is surprisingly good for a restaurant in a clothing store. I wonder what dinner is like there. Actually I just had brunch there over the weekend, so I can say that it's still good.
I live in NYC and I find most of the "splurge" meals I've had not especially memorable. Not quite sure why that is. I tend to focus on the more solid, casual fare. I guess for someone like me who lives here and eats out every meal, that makes a lot more sense.
While we're on the subject of something more casual, let me mention Florent. This has been big news here -- Florent Morellet is closing his restaurant in the Meatpacking District. Opened long before the gentrification of the neighborhood, the restaurant became a favorite of many especially for its late hours (open 24 hours, maybe?). This institution is worth a visit while you still can, though, well, I've not been there recently either.
Anyway, while we're in the Meatpacking District and talking about more casual options, let me mention Fatty Crab. The food is probably not as good as it was before, and service can be quite slow, but this is still worth a visit. I miss their soto ayam terribly. I keep returning once in a while to see if they put it back on their menu.
I've been to Cookshop, and well, I didn't think much of it either.
I've eaten at Aquavit -- but I think in the more casual part of the restaurant. I've friends who swore by this restaurant, but again, I didn't think much about what I had.
One restaurant that I didn't mention on the other thread on NYC restaurants I responded to -- Barbuto. It's (or was) a Jonathan Waxman (I think?) restaurant, and I actually quite enjoyed the casual vibes the one afternoon I was there. Waxman has had his ups and downs, from what I gather, but this is slightly spruced up comfort food and done well (I think he's known for his roasted chicken, which I don't think I had, however). However it's been at least a year or two since I ate there.
If you're looking for something a little more casual, I can also recommend 202, which is the restaurant at Nicole Farhi in Chelsea Market. I've only had brunch there, but the food is surprisingly good for a restaurant in a clothing store. I wonder what dinner is like there. Actually I just had brunch there over the weekend, so I can say that it's still good.
I live in NYC and I find most of the "splurge" meals I've had not especially memorable. Not quite sure why that is. I tend to focus on the more solid, casual fare. I guess for someone like me who lives here and eats out every meal, that makes a lot more sense.
While we're on the subject of something more casual, let me mention Florent. This has been big news here -- Florent Morellet is closing his restaurant in the Meatpacking District. Opened long before the gentrification of the neighborhood, the restaurant became a favorite of many especially for its late hours (open 24 hours, maybe?). This institution is worth a visit while you still can, though, well, I've not been there recently either.
Anyway, while we're in the Meatpacking District and talking about more casual options, let me mention Fatty Crab. The food is probably not as good as it was before, and service can be quite slow, but this is still worth a visit. I miss their soto ayam terribly. I keep returning once in a while to see if they put it back on their menu.
#32
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111op,
In a strange way I don't think many locals can offer the kind of restaurant advice that tourists who are interested in food need or desire. I live in San Francisco but don't enjoy dining downtown or the financial district, cannot stomach (heh heh) Pac Heights or the Marina, don't care to go to Napa or Sonoma. I'm worthless! I did enjoy French Laundry but someone was treating me and it was a special occasion. Etc.
As a tourist, I might want to go to WD-50 or Momofuku Ko or some other place because I imagine it's substantially different from the (frequently excellent) food I get at home. Well, except I'm just a poor lady and have to keep my splurges to a minimum.
Is Insieme good? Really good?
In a strange way I don't think many locals can offer the kind of restaurant advice that tourists who are interested in food need or desire. I live in San Francisco but don't enjoy dining downtown or the financial district, cannot stomach (heh heh) Pac Heights or the Marina, don't care to go to Napa or Sonoma. I'm worthless! I did enjoy French Laundry but someone was treating me and it was a special occasion. Etc.
As a tourist, I might want to go to WD-50 or Momofuku Ko or some other place because I imagine it's substantially different from the (frequently excellent) food I get at home. Well, except I'm just a poor lady and have to keep my splurges to a minimum.
Is Insieme good? Really good?
#33
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Leely
You raise an interesting point. We live in Manhattan and eat out three, four times a week but where we eat, there are rarely, what I can acertain, as tourists.
And I also agree with 11op, we rarely eat at the expenisve restaurants because the cost is exponential higher while quality is only incrementally better.
If you come to NY, you should try the variety of ethnic food. More and more across America there are restaurants that serve high quality hip American food. But there is no city with the range of price and variety that we have regarding ethnic food. But I always puzzled that they are eschewed.
You raise an interesting point. We live in Manhattan and eat out three, four times a week but where we eat, there are rarely, what I can acertain, as tourists.
And I also agree with 11op, we rarely eat at the expenisve restaurants because the cost is exponential higher while quality is only incrementally better.
If you come to NY, you should try the variety of ethnic food. More and more across America there are restaurants that serve high quality hip American food. But there is no city with the range of price and variety that we have regarding ethnic food. But I always puzzled that they are eschewed.
#37
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Well Leely, I've never been to Insieme, so I can't recommend this one personally. I just remember that this was something I was interested in trying (and still haven't tried).
Now Momofuku Ko also sounds interesting, and I'd like to try it, but the reservation is done entirely online and must be done exactly 6 days in advance (so says Frank Bruni's NYT review, if I remember right). I think it's hard to get in.
Then this reminds me of Momofuku. I went before it was really popular, and I thought that the ramen was pretty good. I've been since they expanded to a larger place a few doors down, and I think that the ramen is really so so. It's unusual and different, but in my opinion, it's not really terribly worth waiting for.
The latest ramen craze in NYC is Ippudo. The wait is typically 1 hour or more.
Speaking of ethnic, then well -- there's Chinatown, and there's Little India, etc. etc.
Another restaurant chain I can recommend -- if you like Japanese:
Yakitori Totto, Soba Totto, etc. The yakitori meatballs are really delicious. Some of the other dishes are so so, however, They have a website.
Now Momofuku Ko also sounds interesting, and I'd like to try it, but the reservation is done entirely online and must be done exactly 6 days in advance (so says Frank Bruni's NYT review, if I remember right). I think it's hard to get in.
Then this reminds me of Momofuku. I went before it was really popular, and I thought that the ramen was pretty good. I've been since they expanded to a larger place a few doors down, and I think that the ramen is really so so. It's unusual and different, but in my opinion, it's not really terribly worth waiting for.
The latest ramen craze in NYC is Ippudo. The wait is typically 1 hour or more.
Speaking of ethnic, then well -- there's Chinatown, and there's Little India, etc. etc.
Another restaurant chain I can recommend -- if you like Japanese:
Yakitori Totto, Soba Totto, etc. The yakitori meatballs are really delicious. Some of the other dishes are so so, however, They have a website.
#38
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Ethnic food is much greater than Little India and Chinatown.
In all price ranges there are regional Italian, Spanish (Spain) Portuguese, French Bistro, Greek, German, Belgian, Russian, Turkish, Eastern European, Swedish, Middle Eastern, Thai, Filipino, Mexican, Malayasian, Korean, Japanese, regional Chinese, regional Indian, West Indian, Jewish, Argentinian, Brazilian, Cuban, Vietnamese, Ethiopian, British and Irish pub, and now there is even Australian and New Zealand plus many I have not listed.
When in NY never eat at chains and try something that you might not have in your home town.
In all price ranges there are regional Italian, Spanish (Spain) Portuguese, French Bistro, Greek, German, Belgian, Russian, Turkish, Eastern European, Swedish, Middle Eastern, Thai, Filipino, Mexican, Malayasian, Korean, Japanese, regional Chinese, regional Indian, West Indian, Jewish, Argentinian, Brazilian, Cuban, Vietnamese, Ethiopian, British and Irish pub, and now there is even Australian and New Zealand plus many I have not listed.
When in NY never eat at chains and try something that you might not have in your home town.
#39
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By the way, here's a website for the "Torys" Japanese restaurants I mentioned:
http://www.torysnyc.com/
I think I've been to all of them. They are all well worth a visit.
It's certainly a more upscale chain (reflected in the prices) -- maybe not someone who focuses on "ethnic" food is likely to enjoy. I'm pretty sure that these restaurants are not something that someone will readily find anywhere else (save Japan).
I find that my own tastes are eclectic -- venturing towards the high-brow and low-brow. I've flocked to some other "ethnic" resaurants as well -- like Sapraithai (sp?) in Queens. But then, does the typical tourist venture out to Queens?
http://www.torysnyc.com/
I think I've been to all of them. They are all well worth a visit.
It's certainly a more upscale chain (reflected in the prices) -- maybe not someone who focuses on "ethnic" food is likely to enjoy. I'm pretty sure that these restaurants are not something that someone will readily find anywhere else (save Japan).
I find that my own tastes are eclectic -- venturing towards the high-brow and low-brow. I've flocked to some other "ethnic" resaurants as well -- like Sapraithai (sp?) in Queens. But then, does the typical tourist venture out to Queens?


Thanks again!!