help needed: Las Vegas hotel room deposits?

Old Oct 27th, 2007, 11:31 PM
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help needed: Las Vegas hotel room deposits?

I am seeking information and assistance from those who desire to help me out on something.

i am in the process of looking into booking a hotel room in las vegas, and many hotels are asking for a deposit. the deposit is seems to be only refundable if i cancel before i actually stay in the room.

so, as i am looking for the best deal on hotel rooms, i access the website, it brings up a calendar,.shows me things like "this night $181.00,..the next night $79.00" or whatever the price may be,..so im thinking, ok,.add the amounts of the two nights together, and throw in a few extra dollars here and there for taxes and other nominal fees,.and i should come out no more than say 10% of my previous subtotals of adding the costs of each nights room rates together...but no...they are tacking on some ridiculous "deposit" onto the overall costs...so that 2-night reservation i thought would be around say, $270, or so,.seems to be skyrocketing in excess of $400.00 now, due to this silly charge they want to label as being a non-refundable deposit once i stay there.

am i missing something here?, what am i not understanding? ..if they want to charge extra, shouldnt these costs be mostly covered in the costs of the room's rates, and not some additional fee they feel they have the right to assess?

is there any way around this?

help, please.
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Old Oct 28th, 2007, 01:23 AM
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Generally a deposit is payment ahead for something - it is credited towards what you actually buy at the time of purchase.

Can not comment on this specific hotel, rules - since I do not know them obviously.

If you do not actually stay in the hotel, the deposit is refunded if you cancel by a certain time. Often it is 6 PM on the day of your first night, but can be as early as a week in advance for resorts, condos, etc. Just make sure you understand the rules and if you do cancel, keep the cancellation number as proof you cancelled.
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Old Oct 28th, 2007, 04:01 AM
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Well, I'm not sure I understand your question exactly, but when I've traveled to Las Vegas, I've paid the first night of my stay in advance as the deposit. So, if the first night of my stay is $100 and the next night is $50 and the third night is $80, I will be charged $100, plus tax, as my deposit. This amount is refundable if I change my plans. As stated above, make sure you understand the rules for cancellation. Every hotel can be different. Of course, when I check in, the deposit I've paid will be deducted from my balance.

Does this help you at all?

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Old Oct 28th, 2007, 06:48 AM
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The deposit, does indeed go towards your total room charge. So it will be less you'll have to pay later. If you gamble at all, make sure you check out the Casino of choice & their comp system. If you are going to play, you may as well get some benefit from it as well.
 
Old Oct 28th, 2007, 09:25 AM
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My experience is the same as Mikesmom - I always pay the first night's rate as a deposit. If I fail to cancel more than 48 hours before arrival, then I lose the deposit. Up to that point, I can cancel for a full refund. This is if I book directly through the hotel website. Some websites may be charging a non-refundable deposit, but that still shouldn't be a fee that's tacked onto the full cost of staying at the hotel.

This deposit isn't added on top of the cost of staying - it's simply the cost of the first night. When I check out, the deposit always shows up as a credit on my account.

Now, some rates may require that you prepay the entire stay up front, but I don't see that very often through the hotel websites. What websites are you trying to book through?

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Old Oct 28th, 2007, 11:40 AM
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i was playing around with travelocity, and expedia mainly. a fodorite here named "betty" gave excellent advice on a site called smartervegas.com which gives great incentives like spa certs, buffets, etc. kudos to her!.

i havent yet booked anything, but thanks to you all for your clarification on this, so i will now go forward and book a hotel here very soon.
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Old Oct 28th, 2007, 12:05 PM
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I think I'm understanding the odd amount for the required deposit. Our last stay in Vegas had a couple weeknights at ridiculously low prices, but one weekend night at a very high price, so the required deposit was considerably more than just the first night's stay would have been. But in any case, whatever the amount of the deposit, it will be deducted from your final bill -- not added on to it. Some hotels and certainly some discount websites are now doing "non-refundable" deposits. Regardless of how much notice you might give of cancellation, you won't get ANY of your deposit back. I'd make sure I wasn't doing one of those. Make sure you know how much notice you must give to get your deposit back.

I'm not sure if there is any good reason to use a discount website in Las Vegas. My experience has been that hotels there in particular will match any other offer -- and with better terms of cancellation policy.

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Old Oct 28th, 2007, 12:08 PM
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First of all, a deposit is NOT in addition to the hotel stay, it counts toward the hotel stay. So if your total hotel stay for two nights is $300., they often charge you a $150. deposit NOW for the first night. It is refundable (for example) 48 hours before you stay as long as you cancel. When you check out, you will pay only the other $150. for the second night. Some hotels only charge up front only part of the first night. Deposits are a common accepted practice. Secondly I personally like to make my reservations directly with the hotel on the hotel website. I find that often I still get the same low price and there is less room for error. On the strip, or very close by the strip, some of the cheap hotels that still exist are the Sahara, the Riviera, the Tropicana and the Greek Isles. Of these, the Sahara is the furthest out. If I recall correctly, the Greek Isles that sits 1 block away from the strip is actually the most centrally located. I think it is right behind the Flamingo. The Tropicana is next door to MGM and across from NYNY, and might be a fun place to stay.
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Old Oct 29th, 2007, 03:27 AM
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yeah, i too initially thought that the tropicana sounded like a decent quiant reasonably priced place to stay at too,..that was,.until i began to read one horror story after another from customers who were,...if i say "dissatisfied" it would be a enormous understatement!

i found such reviews of the tropicana where cleints were saying anything but positive remarks of the hotel at travelocity.com.

and like the other thread ive got going currently, regarding interpreting reviews of hotels, im beginning to believe the theory that hotel chains will sometimes have staff input generic positive remarks, to try to "drown out" the negative feedback.
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Old Oct 29th, 2007, 06:25 AM
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The Trop is still very much stuck in the '70's, think shag carpet & mirrors over the bed. However, they do have a great pool area & a decent location. How much time do you spend in the room anyway. Folies Bergere (sp?) is also one of the most authentic Vegas shows on the Strip (+ I've seen Bob Newhart there). There ARE much worse places to stay Circus2 for example.
 
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If you're looking for cheaper deals on the strip, but something nicer than Tropicana, check the Luxor or the Flamingo. Imperial Palace is another option.
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Old Nov 9th, 2007, 02:11 PM
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i hate to be one of those guys that asks for help, and doesnt respond back with trip reports,kudos, yadda yadda yadda.

so, thanks in part to you fellers,.im taking off next week to vegas and staying at the excalibur.

i got a fantastic deal at smartervegas.com

ill post back when i get back from my trip too.
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