Has anyone recently used AIRBNB.com for lodging?
#2

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There are several threads here on the subject already in which I've extolled the virtues of AirBnB. To be brief, I love the site, have been using it for 3 years. I've moved recently into a bigger house and will soon have a listing as well as booking with them.
I've rented rooms and apartments in California, Arizona, New Mexico and France and currently have a reservation with a friend for our visit to Portland, OR. Choose carefully, pay attention to photos and the information provided and I'm sure you'll be as happy as I've been.
I've rented rooms and apartments in California, Arizona, New Mexico and France and currently have a reservation with a friend for our visit to Portland, OR. Choose carefully, pay attention to photos and the information provided and I'm sure you'll be as happy as I've been.
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Aloha from Kauai...i recently used the site while guiding a wonderful group around all the major Hawaiian islands. I have my home on Kauai, my dads on Oahu and dear friends on Maui yet no real simple places to stay on the Big Island. Found a perfect spot for one night in Hilo and another in Kona. The ease of booking, simple accommodations and inexpensive will always get my positive review! I can say for me, it worked last minute. I have heard from a few that there were controversies in what was presented versus what was true. mahalo
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Airbnb threads are among the most controversial on Fodors these days. I notice you are a first time poster. Which is your real question:
1. Is Airb&B a good idea for lodgings?
2. I'd like to save some money on my trip to _______. Can people here help point me to some inexpensive lodgings?
For the second question, create a new post titled "Inexpensive Lodgings San Francisco" or wherever you're going. Note that as of May this year, a judge in New York has specifically ruled that airbnb is illegal there.
In answer to your first question, please read the links below. One of first threads, goes from 2009-2012 will lay out most of the arguments for/against airbnb:
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...nd-lodging.cfm
The next two links from a "not a trip report" by StCirc, a regular on these boards, gives a great example of when an Airbnb visit isn't "horrible" but is still weird. When you open this link, wait a moment and it will scroll you to the correct comment on Oct. 24 and again on Oct. 28:
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...omment-7905317
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...omment-7910676
Other hotbutton examples that have been discussed here, more concerns if you wish to be a host:
http://ejroundtheworld.blogspot.com/...-in-sight.html
http://gawker.com/5827043/sleazy-air...your-apartment
http://gizmodo.com/5934731/prostitut...t-into-brothel
1. Is Airb&B a good idea for lodgings?
2. I'd like to save some money on my trip to _______. Can people here help point me to some inexpensive lodgings?
For the second question, create a new post titled "Inexpensive Lodgings San Francisco" or wherever you're going. Note that as of May this year, a judge in New York has specifically ruled that airbnb is illegal there.
In answer to your first question, please read the links below. One of first threads, goes from 2009-2012 will lay out most of the arguments for/against airbnb:
http://www.fodors.com/community/unit...nd-lodging.cfm
The next two links from a "not a trip report" by StCirc, a regular on these boards, gives a great example of when an Airbnb visit isn't "horrible" but is still weird. When you open this link, wait a moment and it will scroll you to the correct comment on Oct. 24 and again on Oct. 28:
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...omment-7905317
http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...omment-7910676
Other hotbutton examples that have been discussed here, more concerns if you wish to be a host:
http://ejroundtheworld.blogspot.com/...-in-sight.html
http://gawker.com/5827043/sleazy-air...your-apartment
http://gizmodo.com/5934731/prostitut...t-into-brothel
#5
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5alive- Yes, I heard the same about Airbnb being illegal in NYC.
For my trips there, I have started to look into accommodations on www.LocalBigwig.com which lists vetted, legal professional housing providers. I still save money by avoiding exorbitant Manhattan hotel rates. I used to book on Airbnb but don't want to show up and risk not having accommodations.
For my trips there, I have started to look into accommodations on www.LocalBigwig.com which lists vetted, legal professional housing providers. I still save money by avoiding exorbitant Manhattan hotel rates. I used to book on Airbnb but don't want to show up and risk not having accommodations.
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It's all relative. You could book yourself into a 5* place and still have problems. I've used airbnb for the US only but not overseas as I prefer the local resources overseas.
That said, my experiences with airbnb in the US have all been positive ones, except for one, where the place was not quite as advertised.
There are certain things to do before booking.
After you have input your city and your dates, airbnb will then get to the second page where the properties are listed. However, before checking on the listed properties, do a few things.
1) To avoid what happened to St Cirq, look on the left side and there will be boxes, the boxes say "apartment" "private room" "shared room", just check the box that fits your needs.
2) Then you want to go further down along the left side and slide the arrow on the price bar to show what are the minimum and maximun prices you are willing to pay.
3) You can also indicate the neighborhood that you wish to look at.
4) Now go up to the top on the left and look at the map Click on the "renew" or "refresh" (forget what it really says) button. You can move the map around by clicking on the map and stay clicked on until you want to stop. You can also enlarge or shrink the area of the map with the + or - buttons.
You have now narrowed down your choices, so you're not looking at everything under the sun that's available for, say, London.
Now you can start looking at the properties.
a) If, for example, pricing is important, then obviously you would want to look at the least/most expensive ones first. As you are looking at whatever is the most important category for you, look to see how many reviews there are. The more reviews means the more people have stayed in this place.
b) Let say you clicked on a property with the most reviews. Read the reviews. This is very important. The reviews will give you a "feel" for the place. Also look at the reviewers summed star ratings. For me "cleanliness" is absolutely tops in consideration.
c) Let's say you've found a place that seems to meet all your criteria - private room with a private bath, close to public transportation, on the ground floor and not the 5th floor with no elevator, etc., now look at what is required of you. There will be a list right in the middle of the page. For me, the most important item is the "Cancellation" Policy. Read about the three different cancellation policies. Obviously the best is "Flexible". Also look at the other requirements: minimum nights of stay, security deposit, cleaning deposit, pets allowed? etc.
d) You may also want to look at "House Rules".
It's a bit of work, but you've narrowed everything down to that one property that meets all your needs, has a "flexible" cancellation policy, doesn't have too many other requirements that you can't meet, has mostly 5* ratings from quite a number of reviewers and photos give you a good idea of the place (Personally I'm interested in the bedroom, not in the backyard, if there are tons of photos on the backyard but only one photo of the bedroom, warning bells start ringing). All OK? Then book it!
PS: I sometimes also look at the reviewers. If a reviewer has reviewed a number of properties in different cities, then this is most likely a genuine reviewer. It's pretty hard to fake reviews in different cities, although anything is possible these days.
Just remember that airbnb is a fairly new business and that like any new business it is bound to have hiccups. I've found that their support staff is generally very helpful. Sometimes the problem is on my end for not really understanding. Courtesy goes a long way here as anywhere.
To date, we've stayed in a trailer, a tree house, several properties with gorgeous views, several properties with fantastic included-breakfasts. So, don't be afraid to try something new, just use a lot of the usual precautions. We've met some really wonderful and interesting people through airbnb. New York is the exception rather than the rule, so overall, whatever happens in NY is limited to its boundaries and shouldn't affect you elsewhere. Good luck!
Sorry for the long response - but you did ask!
That said, my experiences with airbnb in the US have all been positive ones, except for one, where the place was not quite as advertised.
There are certain things to do before booking.
After you have input your city and your dates, airbnb will then get to the second page where the properties are listed. However, before checking on the listed properties, do a few things.
1) To avoid what happened to St Cirq, look on the left side and there will be boxes, the boxes say "apartment" "private room" "shared room", just check the box that fits your needs.
2) Then you want to go further down along the left side and slide the arrow on the price bar to show what are the minimum and maximun prices you are willing to pay.
3) You can also indicate the neighborhood that you wish to look at.
4) Now go up to the top on the left and look at the map Click on the "renew" or "refresh" (forget what it really says) button. You can move the map around by clicking on the map and stay clicked on until you want to stop. You can also enlarge or shrink the area of the map with the + or - buttons.
You have now narrowed down your choices, so you're not looking at everything under the sun that's available for, say, London.
Now you can start looking at the properties.
a) If, for example, pricing is important, then obviously you would want to look at the least/most expensive ones first. As you are looking at whatever is the most important category for you, look to see how many reviews there are. The more reviews means the more people have stayed in this place.
b) Let say you clicked on a property with the most reviews. Read the reviews. This is very important. The reviews will give you a "feel" for the place. Also look at the reviewers summed star ratings. For me "cleanliness" is absolutely tops in consideration.
c) Let's say you've found a place that seems to meet all your criteria - private room with a private bath, close to public transportation, on the ground floor and not the 5th floor with no elevator, etc., now look at what is required of you. There will be a list right in the middle of the page. For me, the most important item is the "Cancellation" Policy. Read about the three different cancellation policies. Obviously the best is "Flexible". Also look at the other requirements: minimum nights of stay, security deposit, cleaning deposit, pets allowed? etc.
d) You may also want to look at "House Rules".
It's a bit of work, but you've narrowed everything down to that one property that meets all your needs, has a "flexible" cancellation policy, doesn't have too many other requirements that you can't meet, has mostly 5* ratings from quite a number of reviewers and photos give you a good idea of the place (Personally I'm interested in the bedroom, not in the backyard, if there are tons of photos on the backyard but only one photo of the bedroom, warning bells start ringing). All OK? Then book it!
PS: I sometimes also look at the reviewers. If a reviewer has reviewed a number of properties in different cities, then this is most likely a genuine reviewer. It's pretty hard to fake reviews in different cities, although anything is possible these days.
Just remember that airbnb is a fairly new business and that like any new business it is bound to have hiccups. I've found that their support staff is generally very helpful. Sometimes the problem is on my end for not really understanding. Courtesy goes a long way here as anywhere.
To date, we've stayed in a trailer, a tree house, several properties with gorgeous views, several properties with fantastic included-breakfasts. So, don't be afraid to try something new, just use a lot of the usual precautions. We've met some really wonderful and interesting people through airbnb. New York is the exception rather than the rule, so overall, whatever happens in NY is limited to its boundaries and shouldn't affect you elsewhere. Good luck!
Sorry for the long response - but you did ask!
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Even before the court case, AirBnB rentals were illegal in NYC, and they still are, though the illegality has now been upheld by a court. You should look for a cheaper hotel. There really is no such thing as a "legally vetted" apartment rental in NYC for less than 30 days. But there are some reasonably priced legitimate hotels that offer apartment-like units.
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If you don't mind having to cross the river, try Jersey City on airbnb.
Find something that is near a PATH train station: Grove Street or, further away, Journal Square. Trains from these two stations run 24 hours and get you across to the World Trade Center, where you can then take the NY subway to other parts of Manhattan/NY. Here's a map of the PATH train stations:
http://www.panynj.gov/path/maps.html
I have not stayed in any property on the Jersey side, so can't tell you what it is like, but have been looking at the possibilities since this controversy over the NY airbnb rentals surfaced several years ago.
On the above link, right under the map, you'll also see the times when the other lines run and if you are not a night owl, you may have a greater choice.
Good luck! Half the fun of a trip is in its planning!
Find something that is near a PATH train station: Grove Street or, further away, Journal Square. Trains from these two stations run 24 hours and get you across to the World Trade Center, where you can then take the NY subway to other parts of Manhattan/NY. Here's a map of the PATH train stations:
http://www.panynj.gov/path/maps.html
I have not stayed in any property on the Jersey side, so can't tell you what it is like, but have been looking at the possibilities since this controversy over the NY airbnb rentals surfaced several years ago.
On the above link, right under the map, you'll also see the times when the other lines run and if you are not a night owl, you may have a greater choice.
Good luck! Half the fun of a trip is in its planning!
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<1) To avoid what happened to St Cirq, look on the left side and there will be boxes, the boxes say "apartment" "private room" "shared room", just check the box that fits your needs.>
Easy,
I agree, the first problem StCirc had was that she ordered the wrong type of accommodation. But she approached it with the goodwill I have seen in her writing.
The second problem was the place was pretty unpleasant. I'm guessing she would have noticed if the write-up had mentioned a cat. Even better, did you read how no light bulbs were available to turn on in any public area? Runningtab had to feel his/her way along in the dark until finding the correct door. Is there a box for "Lighting only once in a while"?
These are the risks you take with airbnb. The issues that come up are different from hotels.
Easy,
I agree, the first problem StCirc had was that she ordered the wrong type of accommodation. But she approached it with the goodwill I have seen in her writing.
The second problem was the place was pretty unpleasant. I'm guessing she would have noticed if the write-up had mentioned a cat. Even better, did you read how no light bulbs were available to turn on in any public area? Runningtab had to feel his/her way along in the dark until finding the correct door. Is there a box for "Lighting only once in a while"?
These are the risks you take with airbnb. The issues that come up are different from hotels.
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5alive: in no way was I implying any negative reflection on St Cirq, if that is how you are taking my paragraph. It was merely one of many suggestions on how one might use the airbnb website to one's advantage.
I found StCirq and runnngtab had wonderful writing styles.
As for the lighting issue, that's what the reviews are about. It would be strange if there had been a number of reviews and none would mention the lighting problem. Even if there were no reviews on the lighting issue, now that StCirq has run across it, she could certainly put that into her review of the hostess, if SC feels this is enough of an issue to warrant warning other guests about.
Personally I rely a great deal on the reviews as well as on the host/hostess's writeup. Most owners are very considerate and do put down that they have a pet and not leave finding out about the pet an unpleasant surprise for the guest on arrival.
Certainly there are risks with any kind of travel and unlikely or unexpected aspects may show up, but isn't that part of travel? Very sorry if you found some negative connotation in what I had written. Nothing like that was intended, I assure you.
The OP is free to use/not use airbnb. It's just one of several different types of lodging that is made available to the traveler. The OP asked and I tried to answer as best as possible.
I found StCirq and runnngtab had wonderful writing styles.
As for the lighting issue, that's what the reviews are about. It would be strange if there had been a number of reviews and none would mention the lighting problem. Even if there were no reviews on the lighting issue, now that StCirq has run across it, she could certainly put that into her review of the hostess, if SC feels this is enough of an issue to warrant warning other guests about.
Personally I rely a great deal on the reviews as well as on the host/hostess's writeup. Most owners are very considerate and do put down that they have a pet and not leave finding out about the pet an unpleasant surprise for the guest on arrival.
Certainly there are risks with any kind of travel and unlikely or unexpected aspects may show up, but isn't that part of travel? Very sorry if you found some negative connotation in what I had written. Nothing like that was intended, I assure you.
The OP is free to use/not use airbnb. It's just one of several different types of lodging that is made available to the traveler. The OP asked and I tried to answer as best as possible.
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To the OP:
Sorry if I derailed your thread abit. I would like to point out though that another way to get an inexpensive room in Manhattan would be to do Priceline or hotwire's secret sales. I would suggest you spend a little while on betterbidding.com to find out how to use priceline and hotwire. We used it succesfully in other cities recently.
The one negative with priceline is that you can only be guaranteed sleeping quarters for two people, so if you are traveling with a larger party, you would need to use hotwire only.
Sorry if I derailed your thread abit. I would like to point out though that another way to get an inexpensive room in Manhattan would be to do Priceline or hotwire's secret sales. I would suggest you spend a little while on betterbidding.com to find out how to use priceline and hotwire. We used it succesfully in other cities recently.
The one negative with priceline is that you can only be guaranteed sleeping quarters for two people, so if you are traveling with a larger party, you would need to use hotwire only.
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The ruling is NOT new. This has been the law for years - it;s just that complaints from legitimate tenants are increasing, and the city is also cracking down on landlords trying ti increase profits by turning long-term housing (zoned, approved and given tax breaks on) into short-term (illegal and not zoned).
There is a campaign advising locals to call 311 (our non-emergency city complaint number) about this issue and I think there will be more and more problems with using illegal sublets.
There is a campaign advising locals to call 311 (our non-emergency city complaint number) about this issue and I think there will be more and more problems with using illegal sublets.
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Yes and they are connected with fraudulant people - the worst thing is that AirBNB takes a completely neutral stand and does not try to fix the problem. They think that neutrality serves their purpose...Try to book through sites that let you book through them directly.
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Airbnb in my opinion and experience is a HORRIBLE choice. I made the mistake of booking with them. My experience: their customer service is arrogant and they are in my example untrustworthy. I was planning a South American vacation in June and heard about Airbnb. I went to their website and thought it was a cool concept. I could save money and try something new. What a mistake. After booking and paying for my room some 35 days in advance I thought everything was set and cool. At the last minute, practically on the eve of my departure, they suspended my account and canceled my paid reservation without explanation. I only found out through a private message from my chosen host as I was packing to leave. When I tried to correct Airbnb over the matter they demanded a copy of my passport, access to my Face Book and Google accounts and reconfirmation of my cell number. I didn't want a last-minute derailment of my plans so I unwisely complied. After all that, they wrote that my already 30 days ahead paid reservation was illegitimate and that my account was suspended. Attempts to receive a reason were ignored and I was repeatedly told that they didn't have to give an explanation and were not liable in any way for the mess. Subsequently I had to revoke their permissions, change passwords and accept their corporate hubris / insulting customer service as the "final word". I am now very committed to telling the world of my wretched experience in hopes of sparing other trusting travelers a similar big steaming pile or Airbnb treatment. The good news is, my money was refunded (they had no choice really), I didn't add to their profits and my host of choice understood and received me with a nice welcome. Beware of Airbnb. They might jerk you around as you're in departure as well. I am glad to say that already 4 other friends have now dumped their plans to use Airbnb and I will continue on a righteous mission to share my experience honestly as a cautionary tale regarding Airbnb. The exponential result should make it worthwhile. Choose wisely and seek accommodations elsewhere.
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We have rented through realtors, vrbo, home away, weneedavacation.com, Paris Perfect and airbnb. The latter was a place in Tucson last winter which was fabulous. A great value, better than described, easy owners. We are returning there this winter for five weeks.
Home rentals vary,regardless of the source.
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