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Jul 15th, 2010, 11:56 AM
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Heavens - thanks for your suggestions. Yes, I have done those. Subscribed to both Ft Worth and Dallas symphonies. Been to a fewl museums: Kimball, Modern Art, 6th floor to name a few.
It's just that I am done with what they offer here. I don't find much of the culture interesting. Done with the cowboy and cattle shtick. Call me a snob, I guess. But nothing compares to the great museums of Europe. Or their cathedrals. We saw the latest exhibits at the Kimball, the art of Spain. Of course the paintings were wonderful, but how can that hold a candle to the Louvre or the Rijks?
I have a few friends but so many of them here are of what i call "Southern mentality." They marry young, fresh out of college, don't stray far from home. Texas style church/religion has destroyed any interest I had in it.
So, yes, I am a snob. There, I admitted it. Of course, some people are very nice here, without a doubt. So many of them don't care to travel, and most aren't interested to hear about our travels. I have always hated football. Forget about baseball - I love it, but you'd never know it existed here since football overshadows everything.
I am just done. Eight years is enough time to have given it a chance.
It's just that I am done with what they offer here. I don't find much of the culture interesting. Done with the cowboy and cattle shtick. Call me a snob, I guess. But nothing compares to the great museums of Europe. Or their cathedrals. We saw the latest exhibits at the Kimball, the art of Spain. Of course the paintings were wonderful, but how can that hold a candle to the Louvre or the Rijks?
I have a few friends but so many of them here are of what i call "Southern mentality." They marry young, fresh out of college, don't stray far from home. Texas style church/religion has destroyed any interest I had in it.
So, yes, I am a snob. There, I admitted it. Of course, some people are very nice here, without a doubt. So many of them don't care to travel, and most aren't interested to hear about our travels. I have always hated football. Forget about baseball - I love it, but you'd never know it existed here since football overshadows everything.
I am just done. Eight years is enough time to have given it a chance.
Jul 15th, 2010, 12:07 PM
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"But nothing compares to the great museums of Europe. Or their cathedrals. "
I think the same thing can be said of a large majority of the US. A VERY large majority. We are not Europe. Only a few cities can offer anything to attempt to match the great museums and cathedrals of Europe.
No advice to offer, other than to find a way to be happy where you are planted. Life's too short to focus on the negatives, rather than the positives.
I think the same thing can be said of a large majority of the US. A VERY large majority. We are not Europe. Only a few cities can offer anything to attempt to match the great museums and cathedrals of Europe.
No advice to offer, other than to find a way to be happy where you are planted. Life's too short to focus on the negatives, rather than the positives.
Jul 15th, 2010, 12:30 PM
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Soogies, some ideas for options near Plano. People who enjoy doing the things you enjoy doing -
http://www.meetup.com/DallasEntertainmentGroup/
http://www.meetup.com/theater-166/
http://www.meetup.com/Tours-Adventures/
“ My husband has lived in Dalllas for twenty years and was surprised by what he did not know. Nice people. Interesting day. ”
http://www.meetup.com/getoutandabout/
http://www.meetup.com/DIY-Fashion-Meetup-Group/
Those meet-up groups represent a couple of thousand people in the North Dallas area (I used Plano in the search since that's the topic of this thread) who are also interested in art, museums, theatres and seeing what the DFW area has to offer.
They are just a few computer clicks and one meet-up away.
None of the above are single groups. They are meet-ups for people looking for like-minded people to share experiences and life with. Give it a try!
http://www.meetup.com/DallasEntertainmentGroup/
http://www.meetup.com/theater-166/
http://www.meetup.com/Tours-Adventures/
“ My husband has lived in Dalllas for twenty years and was surprised by what he did not know. Nice people. Interesting day. ”
http://www.meetup.com/getoutandabout/
http://www.meetup.com/DIY-Fashion-Meetup-Group/
Those meet-up groups represent a couple of thousand people in the North Dallas area (I used Plano in the search since that's the topic of this thread) who are also interested in art, museums, theatres and seeing what the DFW area has to offer.
They are just a few computer clicks and one meet-up away.
None of the above are single groups. They are meet-ups for people looking for like-minded people to share experiences and life with. Give it a try!
Jul 15th, 2010, 12:54 PM
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i would never relocate teens to plano. there is something about this town and 'nice' upper middle class teenagers...major heroine and suicide problems among the youth. plano's youth problems were subject to a lot of publicity over the years.
Jul 15th, 2010, 01:09 PM
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I think the heroine problem is mostly a problem in the homes of the very wealthy, where the parents substitute "things" and "possessions" for parenting. The kids are usually unsupervised for a large portion of their time while the parents travel or work instead of being home with their children. This is my understanding and you can find this delimma in almost any city in America.
soogies, I foresee that if you compare every place where you live in the US to the great cities of Europe, that you will never be happy. This is why we travel. Live in a city that is likable, be content, do your work, then travel and GO SEE these great places. Or move there, but now city in the US will have a musuem like the Louvre or a cathedral like in Italy or Paris. That is just my observation. With those standards, there will always be disappointment, imo.
soogies, I foresee that if you compare every place where you live in the US to the great cities of Europe, that you will never be happy. This is why we travel. Live in a city that is likable, be content, do your work, then travel and GO SEE these great places. Or move there, but now city in the US will have a musuem like the Louvre or a cathedral like in Italy or Paris. That is just my observation. With those standards, there will always be disappointment, imo.
Jul 15th, 2010, 01:37 PM
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soogies, I totally understand what you are saying. Many, many years ago I lived in North Texas (Argyle and Denton) and just went back to visit for the first time in 26 years. While thrilled to see old friends, I couldn't believe I had ever lived there! There is, in my opinion, a Texas culture, which appeals to some, and not others. But, again, that's true with most areas of the country, no?
As far as comparisons to European cities, I don't think it's apples to apples, because in addition to being in these new and exciting places, we are usually there in vacation mindset. I bet my beloved Paris would even feel different if I had to experience day to day life there.
As far as comparisons to European cities, I don't think it's apples to apples, because in addition to being in these new and exciting places, we are usually there in vacation mindset. I bet my beloved Paris would even feel different if I had to experience day to day life there.
Jul 15th, 2010, 01:47 PM
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Yeah, I think I will be unhappy in most cities, although SFO, Boston, DC, NYC have a lot more to offer. Starting next year, we intend to rent an apt somewhere in Europe for a few months and see how it goes.
Jul 15th, 2010, 08:34 PM
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Irego, I agree with your statement, "There is, in my opinion, a Texas culture, which appeals to some, and not others."
Soogie, I agree with a lot of what you said, too, but I don't think Texans have a Southern mentality. To me, their mentality is very Western. Some of the Texans I know(and like) are very abrupt and have strong opinions about everything- kind of the opposite of many Southerners.
But good luck,MomDD, with your possible move.
Soogie, I agree with a lot of what you said, too, but I don't think Texans have a Southern mentality. To me, their mentality is very Western. Some of the Texans I know(and like) are very abrupt and have strong opinions about everything- kind of the opposite of many Southerners.
But good luck,MomDD, with your possible move.
Jul 16th, 2010, 05:43 AM
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Dawn - sorry you had a rough day. Sorry, too, I've been such a Debby Downer on this thread. I apologize, truly.
Saraho - I guess I am thinking about "southern mentality" differently. Maybe I am meeting more southern folks than "true" Texans.
Saraho - I guess I am thinking about "southern mentality" differently. Maybe I am meeting more southern folks than "true" Texans.
Jul 16th, 2010, 07:13 AM
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The reality of the prospect is starting to sit in and it was hard yesterday. Fortunately I had class in the afternoon so my pity party ended.
Yes, this thread has been eye opening. I wonder if I started a thread about Orange County and moving here what it would look like.
Yes, this thread has been eye opening. I wonder if I started a thread about Orange County and moving here what it would look like.
Jul 16th, 2010, 07:16 AM
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"I have a few friends but so many of them here are of what i call "Southern mentality." They marry young, fresh out of college, don't stray far from home. "
That's not "southern". *
I understand you don't like Texas. I moved there and left because I missed the hills and trees. It's fine not to like Texas. You've posted a lot that you aren't happy. Sorry about that. But will the anti-Texans/ anti-Southerners POV/comments improve your happiness? You slam Texas because it doesn't have the museums and cathedrals of Europe...yet later admit only a handful of US cities could come close to offering the museums/cathedrals of Europe. It just seems that in your personal unhappiness you're lashing out at others.
It was just an idea - re-read what you are writing here and see how it sounds. If you're fine with it, okay. But, IMO, your happiness is not going to improve with unreasonable expectations and/or trashing the people around you. IMO becoming a happier person begins within.
*based on census stats, your "Southern mentality" theory doesn't hold water. The only color on the map that could be called regional would be the darkest color/ oldest age at first marriage = NE
See slide 14 at http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downlo...ised_final.ppt
That's not "southern". *
I understand you don't like Texas. I moved there and left because I missed the hills and trees. It's fine not to like Texas. You've posted a lot that you aren't happy. Sorry about that. But will the anti-Texans/ anti-Southerners POV/comments improve your happiness? You slam Texas because it doesn't have the museums and cathedrals of Europe...yet later admit only a handful of US cities could come close to offering the museums/cathedrals of Europe. It just seems that in your personal unhappiness you're lashing out at others.
It was just an idea - re-read what you are writing here and see how it sounds. If you're fine with it, okay. But, IMO, your happiness is not going to improve with unreasonable expectations and/or trashing the people around you. IMO becoming a happier person begins within.
*based on census stats, your "Southern mentality" theory doesn't hold water. The only color on the map that could be called regional would be the darkest color/ oldest age at first marriage = NE
See slide 14 at http://www.census.gov/acs/www/Downlo...ised_final.ppt
Jul 16th, 2010, 07:20 AM
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Dawn,
I knew a girl that moved from here to San Clemente, she pulled in to her apt with everything she owned in a UHaul injust next to the Kmart parking lot and broke down & cried. She later grew to love SC, but it was hard at first. No matter where you move its hard at first(even San Clemente)
I knew a girl that moved from here to San Clemente, she pulled in to her apt with everything she owned in a UHaul injust next to the Kmart parking lot and broke down & cried. She later grew to love SC, but it was hard at first. No matter where you move its hard at first(even San Clemente)
