Bryce/ Zion and ?
Jul 10th, 2021 | 09:02 PM
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Thanks Parktvl- we have lodging now but we can change that. Cowboy BBQ sounds great. Its been a long time since I had good BBQ.
Has anyone done a tour in Zion- like a jeep tour or a tour of a slot canyon that we should consider?
Has anyone done a tour in Zion- like a jeep tour or a tour of a slot canyon that we should consider?
Jul 10th, 2021 | 09:13 PM
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Zion slots
Let's ignore Echo Canyon and focus at the valley
Pine Creek hike - after the water puddle, it goes into a slot
The origin of this slot is the east exit of the tunnel, park here. Walk to the former toilet at the end of the parking lot.
Drop down into the valley
Turn right about 80 yards to the start of the slot.
Requires ropes and skill
Google that hike
Or a recreation slot about 500 yards long. At the bottom of that valley, turn left.
Let's ignore Echo Canyon and focus at the valley
Pine Creek hike - after the water puddle, it goes into a slot
The origin of this slot is the east exit of the tunnel, park here. Walk to the former toilet at the end of the parking lot.
Drop down into the valley
Turn right about 80 yards to the start of the slot.
Requires ropes and skill
Google that hike
Or a recreation slot about 500 yards long. At the bottom of that valley, turn left.
Jul 11th, 2021 | 08:41 AM
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If you continue to Capitol Reef, there is a section of the Grand Wash trail that gives a bit of that feel. Also if you have time and drive south from Boulder on the Burr Trail, you drive through Long Canyon and eventually can see Singing Canyon.
https://www.nps.gov/glca/planyourvis...burr-trail.htm
if it has not been nor forecast to be raining, you can drive down the Burr Trail switchbacks into the Waterpocket fold and then turning left, continue back to the main part of Capitol Reef. If it is wet, the mud is too slippery to be safe to drive, so turn back around at the top of the wiggles and go back toward Hwy 12.
Always print or purchase a paper map, as well as any uploaded maps. (Some are available on the NPS website). Bring water and do not rely on GPS.
https://www.nps.gov/glca/planyourvis...burr-trail.htm
if it has not been nor forecast to be raining, you can drive down the Burr Trail switchbacks into the Waterpocket fold and then turning left, continue back to the main part of Capitol Reef. If it is wet, the mud is too slippery to be safe to drive, so turn back around at the top of the wiggles and go back toward Hwy 12.
Always print or purchase a paper map, as well as any uploaded maps. (Some are available on the NPS website). Bring water and do not rely on GPS.
Jul 11th, 2021 | 06:18 PM
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Willis Creek is an easy non-technical slot but the road to get to the trailhead may require a higher clearance vehicle and/or 4WD. There's a sandy uphill stretch. Check road conditions with the BLM visitor center in Cannonville. If I recall correctly the slot starts about a mile in. The hike is longer than 3 miles roundtrip but you can go as far as you want and turn around.
Singing Canyon is probably the easiest slot to see as it's right off of the paved part of the Burr Trail. It's a very short slot that requires very little walking.
Another option might be Jenny's Canyon at Snow Canyon in St George which you could do on your way to or from Vegas. This is another short slot that's about half a mile roundtrip.
Singing Canyon is probably the easiest slot to see as it's right off of the paved part of the Burr Trail. It's a very short slot that requires very little walking.
Another option might be Jenny's Canyon at Snow Canyon in St George which you could do on your way to or from Vegas. This is another short slot that's about half a mile roundtrip.
Jul 11th, 2021 | 09:50 PM
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Good recommendation by Patty. It is about 50 yards long ending at a huge flat rock.
Did not know it was now named Singing Canyon. Tour Guide Lurt Knee discovered it and named it God's Pocket.
Probably, it current name reflects its acoustics.
Very difficult to find because entry is behind bushes.
Did not know it was now named Singing Canyon. Tour Guide Lurt Knee discovered it and named it God's Pocket.
Probably, it current name reflects its acoustics.
Very difficult to find because entry is behind bushes.
Jul 12th, 2021 | 04:11 AM
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Look for the small paved pullout for Singing Cayon after 11 miles from the turnoff at Boulder. There may already be cars parked there. It's on Google Maps and not much of a secret anymore.
https://goo.gl/maps/DuhH3kgegygp5Tf4A
https://goo.gl/maps/DuhH3kgegygp5Tf4A
Jul 18th, 2021 | 06:03 PM
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With only 10 days I would do Zion, Bryce and Capitol Reef. Don't try to stretch it to Arches and Canyonlands and save them for another trip. There are lots of great hotels in Springdale which is right outside of Zion. More limited at Bryce but there are a couple of good size hotels there. We stayed at the Best Western which was fine. Hope you have a great trip!
Jul 21st, 2021 | 01:55 PM
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We have done similar trips from Vegas. Just a couple of suggestions :
It is usually much less expensive to for rental cars to be returned to the same place site they came from, so plan a loop. Loops can be done in either direction.
If your style is to hit the best views and move on you could do a big loop - Vegas to Zion to Bryce to Moab for Arches and Canyonlands to Page for Antelope Canyon to Grand Canyon South rim then back to Vegas via Hoover dam or the same loop in the opposite direction.
If your style is to spend longer in each area then Vegas to Zion to Bryce to Grand Canyon north rim then back to Vegas via Valley of Fire State Park or the same loop in the opposite direction. If the north rim is closed, then Vegas to Hoover Dam to Grand Canyon south rim to Bryce to Zion to Vegas.
If your flight gets into Vegas later in the day then look for lodging on the side of town that is closer to the first site you plan to visit to avoid congestion when leaving in the morning.
Fill your gas tank any time it gets to half when you are away from cities as the stations are not always open/available in the more remote areas.
Try to avoid driving after dark in the more remote areas, elk, mule deer, cattle, etc. may be on the roads.
If you want to stay in the parks, call and if they are full, keep calling as people make plans then cancel. You can also make cancel-able reservations outside the park and do the same.
It is usually much less expensive to for rental cars to be returned to the same place site they came from, so plan a loop. Loops can be done in either direction.
If your style is to hit the best views and move on you could do a big loop - Vegas to Zion to Bryce to Moab for Arches and Canyonlands to Page for Antelope Canyon to Grand Canyon South rim then back to Vegas via Hoover dam or the same loop in the opposite direction.
If your style is to spend longer in each area then Vegas to Zion to Bryce to Grand Canyon north rim then back to Vegas via Valley of Fire State Park or the same loop in the opposite direction. If the north rim is closed, then Vegas to Hoover Dam to Grand Canyon south rim to Bryce to Zion to Vegas.
If your flight gets into Vegas later in the day then look for lodging on the side of town that is closer to the first site you plan to visit to avoid congestion when leaving in the morning.
Fill your gas tank any time it gets to half when you are away from cities as the stations are not always open/available in the more remote areas.
Try to avoid driving after dark in the more remote areas, elk, mule deer, cattle, etc. may be on the roads.
If you want to stay in the parks, call and if they are full, keep calling as people make plans then cancel. You can also make cancel-able reservations outside the park and do the same.
Having done these trips several times from Vegas,, I like this outline.
I am sure you will have an outline of how many miles it is from one point to another ( then you can decide how much driving per day you want to do)
There is a lot of driving within the parks themselves.
At Arches National Park , the walk to Delicate Arch is 45 minutes
I came across this Trip Report the other day and read all of it and found it helpful , but maybe because I was already to all the places mentioned
but you can read it sunbum1944 and glean whatever you might find useful to you.
TR - A Snowy trip to Grand Canyon, Bryce, and Zion
Delicate Arch and Panhole ( the shallow depression).
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