Bryce/ Zion and ?
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Bryce/ Zion and ?
Ten days in late Sept and early Oct. I have never been to this area before and know very little about it. Hoping we will be missing some of the crowds. We will fly into Las Vegas and hopefully rent a car.
I would appreciate info on lodging and itinerary Do we have time to do 3 parks in 10 days? Any and all advice appreciated.
We do like to do short hikes- like 3 miles or so.
I would appreciate info on lodging and itinerary Do we have time to do 3 parks in 10 days? Any and all advice appreciated.
We do like to do short hikes- like 3 miles or so.
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We have done similar trips from Vegas. Just a couple of suggestions :
It is usually much less expensive to for rental cars to be returned to the same place site they came from, so plan a loop. Loops can be done in either direction.
If your style is to hit the best views and move on you could do a big loop - Vegaas to Zion to Bryce to Moab for Arches and Canyonlands to Page for Antelope Canyon to Grand Canyon South rim then back to Vegas via Hoover dam or the same loop in the opposite direction.
If your style is to spend longer in each area then Vegas to Zion to Bryce to Grand Canyon north rim then back to Vegas via Valley of Fire State Park or the same loop in the opposite direction. If the north rim is closed, then Vegas to Hoover Dam to Grand Canyon south rim to Bryce to Zion to Vegas.
If your flight gets into Vegas later in the day then look for lodging on the side of town that is closer to the first site you plan to visit to avoid congestion when leaving in the morning.
Fill your gas tank any time it gets to half when you are away from cities as the stations are not always open/available in the more remote areas.
Try to avoid driving after dark in the more remote areas, elk, mule deer, cattle, etc. may be on the roads.
If you want to stay in the parks, call and if they are full, keep calling as people make plans then cancel. You can also make cancellable reservations outside the park and do the same.
It is usually much less expensive to for rental cars to be returned to the same place site they came from, so plan a loop. Loops can be done in either direction.
If your style is to hit the best views and move on you could do a big loop - Vegaas to Zion to Bryce to Moab for Arches and Canyonlands to Page for Antelope Canyon to Grand Canyon South rim then back to Vegas via Hoover dam or the same loop in the opposite direction.
If your style is to spend longer in each area then Vegas to Zion to Bryce to Grand Canyon north rim then back to Vegas via Valley of Fire State Park or the same loop in the opposite direction. If the north rim is closed, then Vegas to Hoover Dam to Grand Canyon south rim to Bryce to Zion to Vegas.
If your flight gets into Vegas later in the day then look for lodging on the side of town that is closer to the first site you plan to visit to avoid congestion when leaving in the morning.
Fill your gas tank any time it gets to half when you are away from cities as the stations are not always open/available in the more remote areas.
Try to avoid driving after dark in the more remote areas, elk, mule deer, cattle, etc. may be on the roads.
If you want to stay in the parks, call and if they are full, keep calling as people make plans then cancel. You can also make cancellable reservations outside the park and do the same.
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North Rim Grand Canyon if you can get accommodations. There's only one lodge inside the park which is open until mid-October and located on the rim. The next closest accommodation is about an hour from the rim. We were able to find a cabin in the park one October by constantly checking for cancellations.
Cedar Breaks can be easily combined with Zion/Bryce.
And Capitol Reef if you're willing to drive farther. Hwy 12 between Bryce and Capitol Reef is gorgeous in the fall.
I would expect Zion Canyon to still be fairly busy at that time of year but there are other parts of Zion like Kolob Canyons and Kolob Terrace Rd that will be much quieter and there are some nice short hikes in both sections.
Cedar Breaks can be easily combined with Zion/Bryce.
And Capitol Reef if you're willing to drive farther. Hwy 12 between Bryce and Capitol Reef is gorgeous in the fall.
I would expect Zion Canyon to still be fairly busy at that time of year but there are other parts of Zion like Kolob Canyons and Kolob Terrace Rd that will be much quieter and there are some nice short hikes in both sections.
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Springdale is a good location for Zion, my last trip I liked the La Quinta Inn and Suites.
I think you will be suprised to find a lot of places sold out already on the third party websites such as Expedia. If not sold out, prices are about double what you might have paid two years ago.
If you are going to continue to Bryce and are having trouble finding lodging at Bryce and Springdale, try Kanab.
For Capitol Reef, Torrey is a good location.
I think you will be suprised to find a lot of places sold out already on the third party websites such as Expedia. If not sold out, prices are about double what you might have paid two years ago.
If you are going to continue to Bryce and are having trouble finding lodging at Bryce and Springdale, try Kanab.
For Capitol Reef, Torrey is a good location.
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If you've never visited Angel Canyon/Best Friends Sanctuary in Kanab, we really enjoyed it. Especially the overnight in one of the onsite cottage units.
You can also drive through the canyon on your own, or schedule a tour or volunteer shift
https://bestfriends.org/sanctuary/plan-your-visit
https://bestfriends.org/sanctuary/pl...it/places-stay
You can also drive through the canyon on your own, or schedule a tour or volunteer shift
https://bestfriends.org/sanctuary/plan-your-visit
https://bestfriends.org/sanctuary/pl...it/places-stay
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I would also try for cancellations at the lodge inside Zion https://www.zionlodge.com/ if you plan to spend time in Zion Canyon. They did away with shuttle reservations and now it's first come, first served with long waits depending on the time of day.
Best Friends is great. The setting is beautiful, the tours are interesting and there are a few short hiking trails.
Best Friends is great. The setting is beautiful, the tours are interesting and there are a few short hiking trails.
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I agree with Patty to check for a cancellation at the Lodge. People book months / a year ahead and plans change /cancellations happen. With the shuttle reservations ended and it being a very busy time in the park it would be great to stay right on the canyon floor at the Lodge. The popular places in Springdale may be booked up already too. I'd book what you can get in Springdale as long as it is cancellable and then try every day between now and your travel dates for a cancellation at Zion Lodge (try by phone because there is often a lag between a cancellation and it being available on the website)
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The only thing staying inside Zion gets you is entry and parking at the Lodge. You still have to take the shuttle unless you plan on walking or biking everywhere.
The downside is you have no dining options other than Xanterra
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If you were hoping to miss crowds this is not the right time of year for that.
The downside is you have no dining options other than Xanterra
.If you were hoping to miss crowds this is not the right time of year for that.
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There are some short trails accessible from Zion Lodge but yes to go between the Lodge and the farthest point in the canyon still requires a shuttle https://www.nps.gov/zion/planyourvis...-Final-Web.pdf I don't know how long the waits inside the park are but there are reports of 2+ hour lines starting from the visitor center in the morning this year. You can drive to Springdale to eat.


