armpit of each state?
#43
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I second Fresno, California. Also, I thought Birmingham, AL was the pits. I like South Beach but Miami proper was a little scurry. As far as English being spoken, there are places in Louisiana and Alabama that have white folk speaking something incoherent. I think they call it redneckese. It took me a while to learn but alas, I am now bi-lingual.
#44
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I agree that Worcester, MA is the armpit of Massachusetts, but rivalling it for second place are Haverhill, Lawrence, Clinton and Leominster. Clinton's claim to fame, other than for the fact that Jimmy Carter actually made it a campaign stop, is that there are more bars per capita there than anywhere else in the US.
#46
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Let me agree with Sabie. The Virginia suburbs of Washington are unusually uninspired, a concrete jungle of immense dimensions. I'm very conservative yet I am certainly forced to agree that unbridled growth can destroy a landscape. Northern Virginia, site of the estate of the greatest American, George Washington, and the site of several Civil War battles, is now an armpit that only the ugly developer extraordiaire, John "Til"
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#47
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I am originally from NY BUT the city of Niagara Falls...what a mess. Refineries everywhere and it literally stinks! If they cleaned it up a little,,,it could have some hope! Niagara falls itself the attraction...is very pretty.....but anything outside that area..forget it...........................
#48
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I think if more people visited Eureka California, fewer people would mock Fresno. That being said...
As Fresno seems to be a common pick for arm pit of CA, think of how sad it would be to have Fresno as your Mecca for cultural events, shopping, dining, etc. That was my world growing up
So, my vote is anywhere in the Central San Joaquin Valley: Small towns, small minds. Nothing to do except watch the grass (and the sky) turn brown. It's the only place I've ever been where they have to put billboards on the side of the highway (HWY 99) saying not to beat your wife. At least now the kids there have the Internet and cable TV to keep them from drinking beer out in the orange groves every night.
As Fresno seems to be a common pick for arm pit of CA, think of how sad it would be to have Fresno as your Mecca for cultural events, shopping, dining, etc. That was my world growing up
So, my vote is anywhere in the Central San Joaquin Valley: Small towns, small minds. Nothing to do except watch the grass (and the sky) turn brown. It's the only place I've ever been where they have to put billboards on the side of the highway (HWY 99) saying not to beat your wife. At least now the kids there have the Internet and cable TV to keep them from drinking beer out in the orange groves every night.
#49
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jenneepoo - I had to smirk (laugh would not really be appropriate since it really is a sad state of affairs) at your comment about the billboards along 99 that tell you not to beat your wife. Those are as bad as the billboards up in Gridley (also on Hwy 99 interestingly enough) that warn men that it is a felony to date underage girls and warn parents that it isn't a good idea to let their underage girls date older men. People have to be told this stuff on a billboard? Very sad.
jason888 - Alviso isn't really that bad. I used to work in Milpitas and we would go out there for lunch at least once a month - there is a great mexican restaurant there. Also, there are some nice trails out along the water - good for riding bikes, bird watching, and that kind of thing. And up until a few years ago when more and more tech companies were moving out that way, it used to actually be an affordable area of SJ. Not anymore though.
jason888 - Alviso isn't really that bad. I used to work in Milpitas and we would go out there for lunch at least once a month - there is a great mexican restaurant there. Also, there are some nice trails out along the water - good for riding bikes, bird watching, and that kind of thing. And up until a few years ago when more and more tech companies were moving out that way, it used to actually be an affordable area of SJ. Not anymore though.
#50
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I agree with those who feel that English should be the offical language. If one was to move to Germany they would be expected to learn the language to hold a job.
I think that our country is way to lax about people not learning the language. All street signs, resturant menus, etc are in English. This is not Canada where things are done in Engilsh and French. This is America. If one wants to live here so badly, they should learn the language.
Please don't attack what I've said, as this is just my opinion. I realize that not everyone will agree with me.
I think that our country is way to lax about people not learning the language. All street signs, resturant menus, etc are in English. This is not Canada where things are done in Engilsh and French. This is America. If one wants to live here so badly, they should learn the language.
Please don't attack what I've said, as this is just my opinion. I realize that not everyone will agree with me.
#52

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ANOTHER vote for Fresno CA.
At least Eureka's weather is cooler.yesterday Fresno 106 with a low of 82!!!
Eureka 74 -this is considerd a "heat wave" However you must like fog to live there happily..
Fortunately, I have not been to many of the other places mentioned!!!
At least Eureka's weather is cooler.yesterday Fresno 106 with a low of 82!!!
Eureka 74 -this is considerd a "heat wave" However you must like fog to live there happily..
Fortunately, I have not been to many of the other places mentioned!!!
#56
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SteveJudd,
"Message: Isn't Fresno the inspriation for the movie AMERICAN GRAFITTI?"
No. It was Modesto.
As far as I'm concerned, the whole Central Valley qualifies for consideration including these gems; Coalinga (I grew up there, now what a dump), Bakersfield, Taft, etc.
I also agree with Los Angeles. Talk about Urban Sprawl.......worst air in the US......grid locked freeways....bone ugly.
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"Message: Isn't Fresno the inspriation for the movie AMERICAN GRAFITTI?"
No. It was Modesto.
As far as I'm concerned, the whole Central Valley qualifies for consideration including these gems; Coalinga (I grew up there, now what a dump), Bakersfield, Taft, etc.
I also agree with Los Angeles. Talk about Urban Sprawl.......worst air in the US......grid locked freeways....bone ugly.
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