Another New York Trip Report...Inspired By Kim!
Dec 17th, 2002 | 09:21 AM
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Another New York Trip Report...Inspired By Kim!
First of all Kim, who went to New York, thank you! I used to post on these boards all the time. I learned so much from so many who no longer post on these boards.
My family recently returned from a FANTASTIC visit to NYC. I so wanted to post but remembered how some who vist or take a trip on these boards can be. Well, after reading your post and all of the responses as of this writing I ran downstairs, got my travel journal and decided to share my trip to New York with any and all who could or could not appreciate it.
I can do this because the tree is up, the house interior and exterior have been decorated , the cards have been sent and I have nothing to do until noon when my husband gets home so that we can go on our annual holiday shopping trip and dinner!
So, here goes...
My family recently returned from a FANTASTIC visit to NYC. I so wanted to post but remembered how some who vist or take a trip on these boards can be. Well, after reading your post and all of the responses as of this writing I ran downstairs, got my travel journal and decided to share my trip to New York with any and all who could or could not appreciate it.
I can do this because the tree is up, the house interior and exterior have been decorated , the cards have been sent and I have nothing to do until noon when my husband gets home so that we can go on our annual holiday shopping trip and dinner!
So, here goes...
Dec 17th, 2002 | 09:44 AM
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We took a red eye from California to JFK. We got to the airport two hours before our flight as advised. We had to wait for the staff for the airline to come to work. They were not there two hours early which was interesting.
It took us 15 minutes to go from check in, where the three of us checked 5 large suitcases and on to security where we giggled and rolled our eyes as we removed our shoes. We got to our gate with all of the above in that short time. I decided to keep the shoes off as a nap was in order.
Security was not what you hear for us.
All of my film and my camera was hand inspected without a problem. One of the security persons did ask if the film was 800 speed? I instantly or protectively said "yes...I think so...maybe...let's check and see." (Huge grin) In short my film nor my camera never went through x-ray. My camera and film was however,thoroughly inspected...all 12 un-shot rolls of 200 speed.
Once at JFK we too noticed lots of women. I was just glad it was not lots of kids...those of you who remember Oaktown Traveler knows that she ain't too fond of screaming kids travelling with grown folks. That has not changed...period.
We got a cab at a set price that took us straight to our hotel. I have been to NYC on business lots and a few times on solo travel to...meet the girlfriends. I had gotten used to "chatty cabbies." Well, they don't talk or play music or burn incense anymore. I kinda missed those things...
Our hotel was The Edison. Yup, the one right next door to the "W". The Edison is an old gem. It is located right on W.47th. The location and the hotel was nothing short of perfect for our 8 day trip! I had sent the reservation person a couple of really nice e-mails before we arrived and I had also sent a hand written note thanking her for all of her help in getting us a GREAT room at the same rate for the 8 nights during the Thanksgiving week and weekend.
This note and all netted us a room larger than the one I had at the lovely Michalengelo(sp?) on another visit. The Mich. was out of the question for 8 nights. It was also booked solid like everything else in NYC during our stay.
A kudos for the fodors folks who love to debate NYC hotels you saved us from the Comfort Inn. Thank You. You also saved us from The Pennsylvania Hotel . After peeking in on these boards I promptly cancelled both reservations and booked (pleaded) with the Edison to take us. BTW we paid $155.00 per night which I know is higher than normal but the time we were there all the hotels had some sky high rates with even higer rates over the Thanksgiving weekend.
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It took us 15 minutes to go from check in, where the three of us checked 5 large suitcases and on to security where we giggled and rolled our eyes as we removed our shoes. We got to our gate with all of the above in that short time. I decided to keep the shoes off as a nap was in order.
Security was not what you hear for us.
All of my film and my camera was hand inspected without a problem. One of the security persons did ask if the film was 800 speed? I instantly or protectively said "yes...I think so...maybe...let's check and see." (Huge grin) In short my film nor my camera never went through x-ray. My camera and film was however,thoroughly inspected...all 12 un-shot rolls of 200 speed.
Once at JFK we too noticed lots of women. I was just glad it was not lots of kids...those of you who remember Oaktown Traveler knows that she ain't too fond of screaming kids travelling with grown folks. That has not changed...period.
We got a cab at a set price that took us straight to our hotel. I have been to NYC on business lots and a few times on solo travel to...meet the girlfriends. I had gotten used to "chatty cabbies." Well, they don't talk or play music or burn incense anymore. I kinda missed those things...
Our hotel was The Edison. Yup, the one right next door to the "W". The Edison is an old gem. It is located right on W.47th. The location and the hotel was nothing short of perfect for our 8 day trip! I had sent the reservation person a couple of really nice e-mails before we arrived and I had also sent a hand written note thanking her for all of her help in getting us a GREAT room at the same rate for the 8 nights during the Thanksgiving week and weekend.
This note and all netted us a room larger than the one I had at the lovely Michalengelo(sp?) on another visit. The Mich. was out of the question for 8 nights. It was also booked solid like everything else in NYC during our stay.
A kudos for the fodors folks who love to debate NYC hotels you saved us from the Comfort Inn. Thank You. You also saved us from The Pennsylvania Hotel . After peeking in on these boards I promptly cancelled both reservations and booked (pleaded) with the Edison to take us. BTW we paid $155.00 per night which I know is higher than normal but the time we were there all the hotels had some sky high rates with even higer rates over the Thanksgiving weekend.
Next...
Dec 17th, 2002 | 10:07 AM
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Again, our room was large so the unpacking and all went well. With 5 large suitcases and our carry on luggage we did just fine. All of our bags and clothing fit without a problem.
Now, the bathroom was "tight". The tub was large so I was in heaven.
Oh, we we allowed to check in at 8:00am...
Day 1:
Fighting sleep, excitment and hunger the three of us(we have a teen who has been in this world before...totally cool person)decided to go into those three different directions. My husband slept, our son ate at the famous deli/cafe downstairs and I got out my Fodors, Frommers and a zillion notes etc.
Several hours later we went to the visitors center which was one block away and literally forgot what we went there for...NYC is so totally stimulating, distracting and the like. You have to abandon your "plans" and just go with it. So, we listened to the "street preachers", watched the "street dancers" and just smiled and grinned all afternoon.
Highlights:
We took the double decker on an uptown tour. Sat on top freezing but not caring one bit about that because for the first time the whole family was in NYC together! We saw it all. Loved the Harlem part, Central Park, Museum Row, the stores, the streets the holiday decor and all of the people.
That Night we saw a fabulous show called Harlem Song. Our teen went to the Magic Johnson Theatre(across the street) while we we at our performance.
We even took the subway to Harlem at night. I was so against this and my husband and son reminded me of how angry I get we people assume that the will get killed, beat or robbed if they come into Oakland at night...
We were just fine!
Dinner:
We ate at B.Smith's. I had eaten their before they moved to the Theatre District, Restaurant Row...I was not pleased with the food nor was my husband. He was actually shocked because I had gone on and on about how we "had" to dine there. I have B. Smith's Cookbook and etc...
While not pleased...the staff got us in and out so that we could make the subway and our curtain! We had catfish and chicken. The apple martini cost the same as the catfish...$12.95. We think in hindsight that they made an error. That aside our bill was still over $70.00. It being our fist night we did not pause...more on this later.
Now, something happened that made this dinner outstanding...B. Smith and her family came into the restaurant, introduced themselves to us and sat right next to us!!!!!!!!!! They were so nice and I was so "Struck" until we decided to not speak bad of the restaurant. I think it being a monday night and all the kitchen was not hot.
The overall experience was unforgetable!
God has a way of making our blessings...just right!
Now, the bathroom was "tight". The tub was large so I was in heaven.
Oh, we we allowed to check in at 8:00am...
Day 1:
Fighting sleep, excitment and hunger the three of us(we have a teen who has been in this world before...totally cool person)decided to go into those three different directions. My husband slept, our son ate at the famous deli/cafe downstairs and I got out my Fodors, Frommers and a zillion notes etc.
Several hours later we went to the visitors center which was one block away and literally forgot what we went there for...NYC is so totally stimulating, distracting and the like. You have to abandon your "plans" and just go with it. So, we listened to the "street preachers", watched the "street dancers" and just smiled and grinned all afternoon.
Highlights:
We took the double decker on an uptown tour. Sat on top freezing but not caring one bit about that because for the first time the whole family was in NYC together! We saw it all. Loved the Harlem part, Central Park, Museum Row, the stores, the streets the holiday decor and all of the people.
That Night we saw a fabulous show called Harlem Song. Our teen went to the Magic Johnson Theatre(across the street) while we we at our performance.
We even took the subway to Harlem at night. I was so against this and my husband and son reminded me of how angry I get we people assume that the will get killed, beat or robbed if they come into Oakland at night...
We were just fine!
Dinner:
We ate at B.Smith's. I had eaten their before they moved to the Theatre District, Restaurant Row...I was not pleased with the food nor was my husband. He was actually shocked because I had gone on and on about how we "had" to dine there. I have B. Smith's Cookbook and etc...
While not pleased...the staff got us in and out so that we could make the subway and our curtain! We had catfish and chicken. The apple martini cost the same as the catfish...$12.95. We think in hindsight that they made an error. That aside our bill was still over $70.00. It being our fist night we did not pause...more on this later.
Now, something happened that made this dinner outstanding...B. Smith and her family came into the restaurant, introduced themselves to us and sat right next to us!!!!!!!!!! They were so nice and I was so "Struck" until we decided to not speak bad of the restaurant. I think it being a monday night and all the kitchen was not hot.
The overall experience was unforgetable!
God has a way of making our blessings...just right!
Dec 18th, 2002 | 09:03 AM
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The Rest Of The Trip:
Yesterday, I swear I wrote for an hour and I guess the post did not work so here goes try number two!
I will summarize by categories:
Museums:
The Met...Very good. The tree was a hit for me but nothing special for the hubby. I was trying to tell hubby about the no pay thing...he rolled his eyes and paid the full fee. I admit it felt a little awkward to even bring this up. The cashier smiles at you and you feel really "cheap" for the inquiry. I loved the fashion exhibit downstairs.
The tree, while special is at this time of year becomes a part of the whole "Tree Thing" in NYC. You have so many beautiful trees: The Rockerfeller, The Lincoln, The Office Lobbys..The Hotel Lobbys..The stores...and so on. I love it!
The Frick...Good
The Folks Art Museum..A Treat
The Schromburg...WOW!
The Gugg...Ok for me, hubby liked lots.
The Radio and T.V.Museum..they were doing the holiday thing which I wsa excited about. This was going to take a larger slice than what we had to give.
All in all the time spent in the museums was Excellent.
Yesterday, I swear I wrote for an hour and I guess the post did not work so here goes try number two!
I will summarize by categories:
Museums:
The Met...Very good. The tree was a hit for me but nothing special for the hubby. I was trying to tell hubby about the no pay thing...he rolled his eyes and paid the full fee. I admit it felt a little awkward to even bring this up. The cashier smiles at you and you feel really "cheap" for the inquiry. I loved the fashion exhibit downstairs.
The tree, while special is at this time of year becomes a part of the whole "Tree Thing" in NYC. You have so many beautiful trees: The Rockerfeller, The Lincoln, The Office Lobbys..The Hotel Lobbys..The stores...and so on. I love it!
The Frick...Good
The Folks Art Museum..A Treat
The Schromburg...WOW!
The Gugg...Ok for me, hubby liked lots.
The Radio and T.V.Museum..they were doing the holiday thing which I wsa excited about. This was going to take a larger slice than what we had to give.
All in all the time spent in the museums was Excellent.
Dec 18th, 2002 | 09:24 AM
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Next...
The Restaurants:
Chanterelle...I liked the cheese tray. This is certainly a "special" place.
One If By Land Two If By Sea...I do not debate that this was once the "it" place. Our meal was nice but fell far short of what we thought we would experience. This was not a bad place. We enjoyed ourselves.
B. Smiths...Not a good night for the kitchen. I went on and on to my hubby about how we had to eat here. I had dinned here before. The food was tepid and lacked the punch that it once had before they moved to Restaurant Row.
My apple martini cost the same as my entree $12.95. In hindsight, we think they made a mistake dispite our $70.00 plus bill. That is not a complaint.
I think I covered this in my other post.
The Pizza place on W. 44th...Awesome!
Nicks Greek Taverna...The best dinner! We talked about Greece and the 2004 Olympics and on and on. My hubby and I spent 6 weeks in Greece and these waiters are really Greek. We ate and drank like family. They kept giving us stuff too!
The Coffee Shop: We will never forget this breakfast...never. A full jazz band with a really good singer played the whole time!!!! This was awesome. The food was excellent. Our teen even called his friends to tell them about it.
All in all we ate at an Italian Restaurant and others...all was very good.
We travel lots and have come to the conclusion that this may skew our pallet and the like. We have been fortunate like so many of you to dine all over the world. We know that it is difficult for us to have an excellent meal and say now "that was the best".
In short, a restaurant has to be terrible for us to commit it to long term memory. That is simply awful but we eat out 3 to 5 times a week and we live in the Bay Area which is filled with excellent restaurants.
Exceptions as I write: The Coffee Shop in NYC, Maxim's in Paris(1990) and this awesome restaurant in Spain, Mallorca called Tristan...WOW!
The Restaurants:
Chanterelle...I liked the cheese tray. This is certainly a "special" place.
One If By Land Two If By Sea...I do not debate that this was once the "it" place. Our meal was nice but fell far short of what we thought we would experience. This was not a bad place. We enjoyed ourselves.
B. Smiths...Not a good night for the kitchen. I went on and on to my hubby about how we had to eat here. I had dinned here before. The food was tepid and lacked the punch that it once had before they moved to Restaurant Row.
My apple martini cost the same as my entree $12.95. In hindsight, we think they made a mistake dispite our $70.00 plus bill. That is not a complaint.
I think I covered this in my other post.
The Pizza place on W. 44th...Awesome!
Nicks Greek Taverna...The best dinner! We talked about Greece and the 2004 Olympics and on and on. My hubby and I spent 6 weeks in Greece and these waiters are really Greek. We ate and drank like family. They kept giving us stuff too!
The Coffee Shop: We will never forget this breakfast...never. A full jazz band with a really good singer played the whole time!!!! This was awesome. The food was excellent. Our teen even called his friends to tell them about it.
All in all we ate at an Italian Restaurant and others...all was very good.
We travel lots and have come to the conclusion that this may skew our pallet and the like. We have been fortunate like so many of you to dine all over the world. We know that it is difficult for us to have an excellent meal and say now "that was the best".
In short, a restaurant has to be terrible for us to commit it to long term memory. That is simply awful but we eat out 3 to 5 times a week and we live in the Bay Area which is filled with excellent restaurants.
Exceptions as I write: The Coffee Shop in NYC, Maxim's in Paris(1990) and this awesome restaurant in Spain, Mallorca called Tristan...WOW!
Dec 18th, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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The Wrap Up...almost:
If you have read this far...Thanks. I am just happy that nothing "bad" has happened as far a posters and readers...
THANKS!!!
We went to The WTC Site...Kim kinda covers how I felt. I left my hubby stayed and had some "discussions" with the vendors. I really can not say what the visit to the WTC is like. I have to let this rest in peace.
We saw EVERYTHING that one could see. We froze on the double decker bus for two 1/2 days but loved every mile of the tour.
The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade was EXCELLENT. This is a huge part of why went went at this time of year. We bought extreamly pricey tickets to a brunch at The Novotel Hotel. While horribly expensive we were very pleased. We had protection from the frigid cold, we had alcohol and tons of food. We enjoyed the wait staff and it was neat having a t.v. to watch when we got too cold outdoors on the balcony. We could see down Broadway while in the restaurant. We snapped photos and drank bloody marys and mimosa's which were included in the tarriff.
The hubby and son went to the Nicks at the garden while I did major damage on the upper east side. I spent time and money at Manolo Blahnik, Jimmy Choo, St.John, Chanel, Ferragamo and a host of others.
In general shopping in NYC is Excellent!
Our teen bought lots of things that they just do not have on our coast.
If you have read this far...Thanks. I am just happy that nothing "bad" has happened as far a posters and readers...
THANKS!!!
We went to The WTC Site...Kim kinda covers how I felt. I left my hubby stayed and had some "discussions" with the vendors. I really can not say what the visit to the WTC is like. I have to let this rest in peace.
We saw EVERYTHING that one could see. We froze on the double decker bus for two 1/2 days but loved every mile of the tour.
The Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade was EXCELLENT. This is a huge part of why went went at this time of year. We bought extreamly pricey tickets to a brunch at The Novotel Hotel. While horribly expensive we were very pleased. We had protection from the frigid cold, we had alcohol and tons of food. We enjoyed the wait staff and it was neat having a t.v. to watch when we got too cold outdoors on the balcony. We could see down Broadway while in the restaurant. We snapped photos and drank bloody marys and mimosa's which were included in the tarriff.
The hubby and son went to the Nicks at the garden while I did major damage on the upper east side. I spent time and money at Manolo Blahnik, Jimmy Choo, St.John, Chanel, Ferragamo and a host of others.
In general shopping in NYC is Excellent!
Our teen bought lots of things that they just do not have on our coast.
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Dec 18th, 2002 | 09:46 AM
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The Finale:
It is so hard to remember everything...
The Theatre!!!!!!!!!!!
We saw:
Harlem Song...WOW!
Dinner At Eight...A good clifhanger!
The Radio City Christmas Spectacular: Brilliant!!!!
Showtime At The Apollo...Too much fun!
Oh, we ate at Sylvia's in Harlem...Excellent and we made it to Michael Jordon's Steak House for drinks...a treat.
We saw too many celebraties to list...we danced we drank at The View and we enjoyed the many different NYC folks!
We dressed in layers and still froze but were too happy to care. I stuck with my Timberlands and for the special evenings we got dressed up like here in California and used the cabs for cover.
The Jazz and blues clubs are phenomenal and pricey but we went to the legandary ones. We found some free places in Greenwich which were great!
We felt safe and my hubby and I as well as our teen stayed out to all hours of the night and we hopped on the subway without any hesitations.
My best
Oaktown Traveler
p.s. thanks for the inspiration Kim.
It is so hard to remember everything...
The Theatre!!!!!!!!!!!
We saw:
Harlem Song...WOW!
Dinner At Eight...A good clifhanger!
The Radio City Christmas Spectacular: Brilliant!!!!
Showtime At The Apollo...Too much fun!
Oh, we ate at Sylvia's in Harlem...Excellent and we made it to Michael Jordon's Steak House for drinks...a treat.
We saw too many celebraties to list...we danced we drank at The View and we enjoyed the many different NYC folks!
We dressed in layers and still froze but were too happy to care. I stuck with my Timberlands and for the special evenings we got dressed up like here in California and used the cabs for cover.
The Jazz and blues clubs are phenomenal and pricey but we went to the legandary ones. We found some free places in Greenwich which were great!
We felt safe and my hubby and I as well as our teen stayed out to all hours of the night and we hopped on the subway without any hesitations.
My best
Oaktown Traveler
p.s. thanks for the inspiration Kim.
Dec 18th, 2002 | 09:46 AM
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Thanks Oaktown,
I am not the Kim you are refering to but am trying to plan a trip to New York next summer and will re-read your posts and use it in my trip planning.
Thanks for taking the time. All the best of the holiday season to you and your family.
I am not the Kim you are refering to but am trying to plan a trip to New York next summer and will re-read your posts and use it in my trip planning.
Thanks for taking the time. All the best of the holiday season to you and your family.
Dec 18th, 2002 | 10:07 AM
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I am glad that some of you enjoyed the postings. My pleasure!
What My Son Bought:
I too was at a loss for what our teen was talking about so I went with him on two occassions.
It goes like this:
The hats(baseball style) have designs, colors and symbols that they just do not sell out here. Upon return to California, the kids were all over him to try and get them these hats.
The jerseys and pants are about a season and a half ahead of here. Makes sense as the hip hop designers are in NY and distribution is immediate.
All in all I could see the style difference and going back to how teens think if you have it first then that too is a great thing.
A real fun time with him and the NYC merchants who think California is hot too!
Dr.Jays is the most prominent store for what the teens "must have". One is a block away from Macy's and the other is in Harlem near Bill Clinton's Office.
The Edison was too good to us to offer it up for some silly "discussion" about the toilet paper...Our sheets if you must know were "really" changed every day...now, go on back to sleep. At leat you have a theme to your nonsense.
My Best
Oaktown Traveler
What My Son Bought:
I too was at a loss for what our teen was talking about so I went with him on two occassions.
It goes like this:
The hats(baseball style) have designs, colors and symbols that they just do not sell out here. Upon return to California, the kids were all over him to try and get them these hats.
The jerseys and pants are about a season and a half ahead of here. Makes sense as the hip hop designers are in NY and distribution is immediate.
All in all I could see the style difference and going back to how teens think if you have it first then that too is a great thing.
A real fun time with him and the NYC merchants who think California is hot too!
Dr.Jays is the most prominent store for what the teens "must have". One is a block away from Macy's and the other is in Harlem near Bill Clinton's Office.
The Edison was too good to us to offer it up for some silly "discussion" about the toilet paper...Our sheets if you must know were "really" changed every day...now, go on back to sleep. At leat you have a theme to your nonsense.
My Best
Oaktown Traveler
Dec 18th, 2002 | 10:30 AM
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Glad you enjoyed the city. Oaktown Traveler.
I just want to correct some of the information you've given so that others can plan for their own trip correctly (when you search this forum, the typos will make it hard for people to find the info they want)
"Folks Art Museum" is obviously the Museum of American Folk Art.BTW,Did you also make it to the Lincoln Center annex of the museum?
"Schromburg" is the impressive Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, which is actually part of our world renowned public library system!
As far as paying full suggested admission donation at the Metropolitan Museum, well... consider it a donation (which it is) to a worthy institution. As far as feeling funny about giving less--that's each person's call. It is a donation, not a set fee, and you needn't worry about getting "a look" from the museum staff. Any reaction is probably more due
to weariness about answering questions (like "do I really have to pay the full amount?" "can I give just a dollar?" can I give 5 dollars for 2 of us?", etc.) than anyone "looking down on you". If specifically asked, I'm sure the staff is encouraged by their supervisors to try to elicit the maximum contribution for this worthy institution, but I promise all you NYC visitors, that any amount given is gladly accepted, without any problems. Just offer the money you feel you can or would like to give and say "here's $x for Y of us"
I just want to correct some of the information you've given so that others can plan for their own trip correctly (when you search this forum, the typos will make it hard for people to find the info they want)
"Folks Art Museum" is obviously the Museum of American Folk Art.BTW,Did you also make it to the Lincoln Center annex of the museum?
"Schromburg" is the impressive Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, which is actually part of our world renowned public library system!
As far as paying full suggested admission donation at the Metropolitan Museum, well... consider it a donation (which it is) to a worthy institution. As far as feeling funny about giving less--that's each person's call. It is a donation, not a set fee, and you needn't worry about getting "a look" from the museum staff. Any reaction is probably more due
to weariness about answering questions (like "do I really have to pay the full amount?" "can I give just a dollar?" can I give 5 dollars for 2 of us?", etc.) than anyone "looking down on you". If specifically asked, I'm sure the staff is encouraged by their supervisors to try to elicit the maximum contribution for this worthy institution, but I promise all you NYC visitors, that any amount given is gladly accepted, without any problems. Just offer the money you feel you can or would like to give and say "here's $x for Y of us"
Dec 18th, 2002 | 11:20 AM
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Dear "Me" Thanks a bunch for your help. My typos are many. Made it to the annex, cloisters, the Tavern...did not want to get the restless too stirred up.
Ok, on Nicks:
The correction: Uncle Nick's Greek Cuisine. 747 Ninth Avenue, Hell's Kitchen NYC. We walked from our diggs on w.47th.
On The Coffee Shop:
The correction: Coffee Shop Bar (yup, that is the real name...giggle)
29 Union Square West (212) 243-7969.
They are open 23 hours a day from 7:00am to 6:00am. Ahhh..it is listed as live Brazilian samba...jazz to me. You have to make reservations. We had none...it was packed. We actually took three stools at the counter...maybe it was the bar? Made no difference..What a treat.
Dear "She":
The store folks were merely glad that I was not you! (roll-eyes)
Again, God bless you. Try and enjoy this beautiful season of sharing,joy and peace...come on now.
Oaktown Traveler
Ok, on Nicks:
The correction: Uncle Nick's Greek Cuisine. 747 Ninth Avenue, Hell's Kitchen NYC. We walked from our diggs on w.47th.
On The Coffee Shop:
The correction: Coffee Shop Bar (yup, that is the real name...giggle)
29 Union Square West (212) 243-7969.
They are open 23 hours a day from 7:00am to 6:00am. Ahhh..it is listed as live Brazilian samba...jazz to me. You have to make reservations. We had none...it was packed. We actually took three stools at the counter...maybe it was the bar? Made no difference..What a treat.
Dear "She":
The store folks were merely glad that I was not you! (roll-eyes)
Again, God bless you. Try and enjoy this beautiful season of sharing,joy and peace...come on now.
Oaktown Traveler
Dec 18th, 2002 | 11:52 AM
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Just two questions.
1. Why are NYers so mercenary about how much people DONATE at museums? Don't forget -- it's a donation to a tax exempt institution.
2. Why do NYers take credit for everything that's good about New York City? It you listen to Me/Here it sounds like she created the NY public school system and built the Met. Just because you live somewhere doesn't mean you deserve praise for the Met being a great museum. In fact, it owes very little to the people of NY -- except, of course, the Rockefellers and other extrememly wealthy people who donated so much to it. I've always wondered why NYers try to take credit for these things when, at an individual level, they have nothing to do with them.
1. Why are NYers so mercenary about how much people DONATE at museums? Don't forget -- it's a donation to a tax exempt institution.
2. Why do NYers take credit for everything that's good about New York City? It you listen to Me/Here it sounds like she created the NY public school system and built the Met. Just because you live somewhere doesn't mean you deserve praise for the Met being a great museum. In fact, it owes very little to the people of NY -- except, of course, the Rockefellers and other extrememly wealthy people who donated so much to it. I've always wondered why NYers try to take credit for these things when, at an individual level, they have nothing to do with them.
Dec 18th, 2002 | 12:24 PM
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Laughing...
Store Folks are Folks. I do not know any CLERKS who work at the stores that I listed. Go ahead, ask them if they are CLERKS.
My grocery store person is "folk". My 24 hour gas/mart person is "folk".
If you had one once of depth to your relationships you too would have "folks".
"Folks" is a term that endears. Trust me. Where I spend my time and money is with my "folks".
"Folks" are all incomes, occupations, races, religions and so on.
Now go out and try and meet you some "folks".
Some Fodor's posters are "folks".
You have to feel that. Can't feel if you are out HATIN'. You know...as in player hating or travel hating or if you are into upper-east side-shopping hatin' or just plain ole hate-ing to break it down for you...hater? right? Stop hatin!
The food at The Coffee Shop Bar...big menu...I had the benedicts, hubby had pancakes and son "did" the french toast.
NYers Own...
Ok, it is so easy to defer to New York and them as being "first", founders, originals, taking credit or "representing"... as a concept. I think they are proud. I am proud of them.
This California girl gladly admits that New York "got-it-goin-on" as the "kids" would say.
Word.
My Best
Oaktown Traveler
p.s. now, how is that for the split personality? (some folks...)
Store Folks are Folks. I do not know any CLERKS who work at the stores that I listed. Go ahead, ask them if they are CLERKS.
My grocery store person is "folk". My 24 hour gas/mart person is "folk".
If you had one once of depth to your relationships you too would have "folks".
"Folks" is a term that endears. Trust me. Where I spend my time and money is with my "folks".
"Folks" are all incomes, occupations, races, religions and so on.
Now go out and try and meet you some "folks".
Some Fodor's posters are "folks".
You have to feel that. Can't feel if you are out HATIN'. You know...as in player hating or travel hating or if you are into upper-east side-shopping hatin' or just plain ole hate-ing to break it down for you...hater? right? Stop hatin!
The food at The Coffee Shop Bar...big menu...I had the benedicts, hubby had pancakes and son "did" the french toast.
NYers Own...
Ok, it is so easy to defer to New York and them as being "first", founders, originals, taking credit or "representing"... as a concept. I think they are proud. I am proud of them.
This California girl gladly admits that New York "got-it-goin-on" as the "kids" would say.
Word.
My Best
Oaktown Traveler
p.s. now, how is that for the split personality? (some folks...)
Dec 18th, 2002 | 12:42 PM
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Well, I thoroughly enjoyed your post, your enthusiasm and seeing NYC through someones eyes in such a positive way!
I am sure that it has nothing to do with the fact that you too, shop at Jimmy Choos and wear Manolos!
Whenever the double decker buses go by and I see tourists all bundled up and shivering, but doing it in order to get that view of our city, I smile and feel good that someone wants to visit NY and will think as well of it as you do.
Hurry on back!
NYGirl
I am sure that it has nothing to do with the fact that you too, shop at Jimmy Choos and wear Manolos!
Whenever the double decker buses go by and I see tourists all bundled up and shivering, but doing it in order to get that view of our city, I smile and feel good that someone wants to visit NY and will think as well of it as you do.
Hurry on back!
NYGirl
