alcatraz and public transportation passes

Old Jul 28th, 2009, 12:48 PM
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"Neopatrick: stop putting words in my mouth and giving out false impressions. On the other thread, I said specifically that the SF theater district is located within the Tenderloin and that there are many small hotels that have been revamped to cater mainly to the theater crowd. I've also said that the Tenderloin is ethnically the most diverse and that this fact along with the theater district being there makes for good choices in dining. I never said any of the junk that you implied in your post."

Yes, you did. You have made it VERY clear that the Tenderloin is a horrible and dangerous area. The theatres I mentioned are in the Tenderloin. Therefore by YOUR definition they are in a horrible and dangerous neighborhood. One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to follow basic logic. If the hotel is in a dangerous neighborhood, then the theatres in that same neighborhood are obviously in a dangerous neighborhood. Don't you HAVE to agree with that basic logic?

What you said on the other hand about some hotels catering to the theatre crowd, etc. and seemingly exempting them from being in a dangerous part of the Tenderloin ALSO applies to the Monaco. Duh!
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 01:42 PM
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Neopatrick, oh, come, come! Stop embellishing what I had to say, otherwise I'll accuse you of being an old lady - constantly embroidering on my posts!

My WHOLE point is that I don't consider the Tenderloin a very ROMANTIC neighborhood, which is what the OP wants. And it's funny that he hasn't come back to give us more clues as to budget and atmosphere so that we can give him better information.

I said that the Monaco is in the Tenderloin, which is true, even SF7307 isn't disputing that now.

I said that the Tenderloin has the highest crime rate in San Francisco, which is also true and no one has come in with any data to disprove this.

The reason why the Tenderloin has such a high crime rate is because of the presence of prostitutes, drug dealers, drug users, and other sundry "types".

Ergo, I personally don't believe this is such a ROMANTIC atmosphere.

For stating this, the whole thing has exploded, with Dayenu carrying the fiction to the moon and back by claiming that I am "trashing" all of San Francisco. Meanwhile, you all choose to ignore the "ROMANTIC" part of my posts.

"Therefore by YOUR definition they are in a horrible and dangerous neighborhood."

Nothing of the sort. I never said it's a "horrible and dangerous" place. Never used those words. You're the one using those words. You're embellishing.

I just don't consider a neighborhood of prostitutes, drugs, and homeless, with some blocks downright depressing, to be very "romantic".

I have posted for the OP and it's his decision whether he wants to stay at the Monaco or not. He asked for an "opinion" and I gave him one.

Too bad "you lot" are so unromantic.
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 03:18 PM
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"My WHOLE point is that I don't consider the Tenderloin a very ROMANTIC neighborhood, which is what the OP wants." - I am seeing some slow progress already! No mentioning of children traveling with the OP.

"And it's funny that he hasn't come back to give us more clues as to budget and atmosphere so that we can give him better information." - no, it's not funny. My guess would be that he's fed up and went elsewhere.

Maybe even on TTG.
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 03:24 PM
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Well, not exactly. All I said was, "even if it IS" in the Tenderloin -- not agreeing nor disagreeing with the assertion that it is.
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 03:32 PM
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Sorry, "even if it IS" - yawn
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 07:28 PM
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Come'on easytravler, you clearly have a problem here, not the rest of us. Give it up. We get it. YOU wouldn't stay there. Others have and would again. Now can someone discuss VALUABLE travel tips that answer the OP's question instead of obsessive rants that have nothing to do with the question being asked? No further opinion was asked in this thread for more rants about their hotel choice!
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 07:35 PM
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By the way, many people would consider the most romantic part of their weekend what goes on within their hotel room. What's happening outside on the streets has little or nothing to do with their "romantic" weekend.
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 07:55 PM
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You said it Neo!
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 08:00 PM
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neopatrick: you still don't get it.

It has NOTHING to do with what I would like or not like.

It has everything to do with how I read WHAT THE OP WANTS.

ROMANTIC

It appears you can't perceive what the OP wants and can only detail ad nauseum your own preferences and where YOU would like to stay.

Happens pretty often here. The OP's request is ignored or worse, when another poster posts in direct response to the query but it's not in accord with the dominant species' opinion, then all H*LL breaks loose.

"By the way, many people would consider the most romantic part of their weekend what goes on within their hotel room."

Yes, but witnessed by a goldfish borrowed from the front desk????? The goldfish might blab, ye know.
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 08:42 PM
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Such a victim.

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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 09:02 PM
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And here comes the irrelevant and off-base personal attacks.

What a nut!
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 09:21 PM
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Like I said...
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Old Jul 28th, 2009, 11:12 PM
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Yes?

Must be terrible to want to say something and not be able to get it out.
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Old Jul 29th, 2009, 12:26 PM
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I apologize for my apparent lack of ability to read. I still am unable to see where in this thread's original post the OP said anything about wanting a hotel in a ROMANTIC area of the city. You seem to see where she said that. That's ALL that is important -- how you feel about what she's NOT asking. She's simply asking for some activities and you are still focused on a previous post that has NOTHING to do with this thread. Obsess much?

My other point was that some people don't judge or base a romantic weekend on what may or may not happen on the street outside their hotel or what "type" or "class" of people they happen to pass.

Clearly YOUR idea of romantic IS based on that. Good for you. A phrase to keep in mind -- "to each his own".

But this one really makes me laugh if you were actually saying it to me:
"It appears you can't perceive what the OP wants and can only detail ad nauseum your own preferences and where YOU would like to stay."

Did you mean to say that into a mirror? I have actually never once mentioned ANYTHING in the world about my own preferences, nor have I even suggested where I would like to stay. Read my posts if you don't believe me.
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Old Jul 29th, 2009, 01:15 PM
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Clifbob....we just returned from SF recently. YES, it is worth seeing Alcatraz. It's an amazingly intriguing place. We did not take the night tour because it was full. Be sure you reserve tickets a week or two before your visit. FYI, we stayed in the Cow Hollow area; very trendy and hip. We did have a rental van, and took it out a few times. for the most part, we walked everywhere or took the bus. I wish we had purchased a MUNI pass. We ate at some neat places too. I think walking is the best way to see a city because there are a lot of little shops, etc you can visit. Be sure you take sweatshirts, sweaters or light jackets, especially for your visit to Alcatraz. Have fun!
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Old Jul 29th, 2009, 03:16 PM
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angelize,


Can you tell me some of the m=neat places you ate?
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