Why Do People Bother With Tripadvisor?
#61
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I started using TA when we moved from Florida to Portland, Oregon. I got so much help .. from neighborhoods to look in for our home, restaurants , everything .. and while we lived there, I knew I could go on those forums at any time and ask a question and someone would help.
After that, I was on there a lot, and then we moved with the help again of TA to Buenos Aires.
The people on those forums were SO great ... you always get a couple of people who are there more for personal entertainment than to help anyone but you can ignore them and focus on the people that are helpful and nice.
I ended up meeting people who posted on the forums .. I am still in touch with a few and of course, one of my very good/close friends I met on the Portland forums .. and now we are real life friends.
I think one of the best things about TA is the editors really edit .. if there is a complaint, it is dealt with and fairly most of the time.
After that, I was on there a lot, and then we moved with the help again of TA to Buenos Aires.
The people on those forums were SO great ... you always get a couple of people who are there more for personal entertainment than to help anyone but you can ignore them and focus on the people that are helpful and nice.
I ended up meeting people who posted on the forums .. I am still in touch with a few and of course, one of my very good/close friends I met on the Portland forums .. and now we are real life friends.
I think one of the best things about TA is the editors really edit .. if there is a complaint, it is dealt with and fairly most of the time.
#62
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<Volunteers respond.>
Actually you need to be nominated by someone & then accepted by TA if you're talking about "Destination Experts" on each forum. The rest of the posters are "volunteers" just like here that's true.
Besides tight editing I love having the PM feature. That's how I've gotten to know and sometimes met in person, posters on Trip Advisor more than ever will happen here at Fodor's.
Actually you need to be nominated by someone & then accepted by TA if you're talking about "Destination Experts" on each forum. The rest of the posters are "volunteers" just like here that's true.
Besides tight editing I love having the PM feature. That's how I've gotten to know and sometimes met in person, posters on Trip Advisor more than ever will happen here at Fodor's.
#63
Joined: Apr 2011
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As I said previously, I have mixed feelings about TA, primarily because of the uneven quality of their forums, and sometimes the more localized parts of otherwise worthwhile forums. It is very easy to manipulate a site where "destination experts" have to be nominated by others. That is how cliques are formed, and once a clique develops for an area, state, country or subject, they stake out their turf and turn it into a chatroom restricted to themselves. And virtually useless for everyone else. Just because someone lives, or says he does, in a certain locale, or works in a given travel industry, such as aviation, does not mean that person has a clue about the travel needs or issues of someone from another continent.
On a related note, while this conversation has been going here, the UK forum has been carrying a discussion, "Ignore Rick Steves," that, at least for now, seems to have run its course. I have not seen anything so far on the Rick Steves site or Trip Advisor sites against Fodor's. I think it is good that we have all three sites, warts and all.
On a related note, while this conversation has been going here, the UK forum has been carrying a discussion, "Ignore Rick Steves," that, at least for now, seems to have run its course. I have not seen anything so far on the Rick Steves site or Trip Advisor sites against Fodor's. I think it is good that we have all three sites, warts and all.
#64
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<turn it into a chatroom restricted to themselves>
That doesn't happen because TA deletes non-travel related posts pretty darn pronto. Posts that get chatty are closed down.
<have not seen anything so far on the Rick Steves site or Trip Advisor sites against Fodor's>
Because Fodor's is not a threat to either Mr. Steves or Trip Advisor.
That doesn't happen because TA deletes non-travel related posts pretty darn pronto. Posts that get chatty are closed down.
<have not seen anything so far on the Rick Steves site or Trip Advisor sites against Fodor's>
Because Fodor's is not a threat to either Mr. Steves or Trip Advisor.
#65
Joined: Jan 2005
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suze doesn't seem to understand that TA moderators do not patrol the forums and remove posts unless they are first flagged by someone. If your forum seems "tightly moderated" that is because someone (not a TA mod) is doing that.
And it does not have to be a DE.
And it does not have to be a DE.
#67




Joined: Jan 2008
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"Actually you need to be..."
Actually, everyone is a volunteer - DEs and just folks posting. At least, I'm not aware of anyone being paid by TA to post on the forums.
"suze doesn't seem to understand that TA moderators do not patrol the forums and remove posts unless they are first flagged by someone"
I agree. I do like the flagging process on TA and the immediacy of the response.
Re cliques or posts about Rick Steves -
Life is life. TA is free and free to everyone to post. I agree that folks talking amongst themselves is tiresome and I've suggested to newbies that there is a TA forum set up just to chat.
You get what you pay for. You're paying nothing so any good information one can glean is gravy. There have been plenty of anti-Rick Steves posts on Fodors through the years. People are people, no matter the forum.
Actually, everyone is a volunteer - DEs and just folks posting. At least, I'm not aware of anyone being paid by TA to post on the forums.
"suze doesn't seem to understand that TA moderators do not patrol the forums and remove posts unless they are first flagged by someone"
I agree. I do like the flagging process on TA and the immediacy of the response.
Re cliques or posts about Rick Steves -
Life is life. TA is free and free to everyone to post. I agree that folks talking amongst themselves is tiresome and I've suggested to newbies that there is a TA forum set up just to chat.
You get what you pay for. You're paying nothing so any good information one can glean is gravy. There have been plenty of anti-Rick Steves posts on Fodors through the years. People are people, no matter the forum.
#68
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I don't use TA - at all. Each time I have decided to check out a hotel (or whatever) there, there have been so many reviews that seemed "planted" that I had to check for other reviews by each poster, etc. and it took way more time than it was worth. Here on Fodors I've been posting long enough that I know (or at least know the screen names) of most of the regulars, so have some basis on which to judge a review. I've gotten lots of good info here on Fodors and given lots of info, especially on less usual destinations in Asia.
And, as others have noted, the rankings on TA are worse than useless.
And, as others have noted, the rankings on TA are worse than useless.
#69




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I just discount the "onsies". I assume they are plants. I scan and read the reviews of regular posters. Totally agree that the rankings can't be trusted - skewed by onesies. I think the forums are as good as the folks posting there and that varies widely by destination. It's a tool. A resource. Use it accordingly.
#72
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One thing to note about TA is that quantity does not always equal quality. Some with thousands of posts are clueless but virtually live there, posting dozens of times a day. Others with far fewer posts actually give good advice, and I look for those.
Also take the Destination Experts with a grain of salt. As long as they are giving specific advice about a destination, it is often worthwhile. Some, however, go overboard with crackpot opinions or simply wrong information about subjects they know nothing about. Again, it is a case of sorting out the fools from the good ones, those who consistently give good advice. Still, the fools are a PITA at times.
Also take the Destination Experts with a grain of salt. As long as they are giving specific advice about a destination, it is often worthwhile. Some, however, go overboard with crackpot opinions or simply wrong information about subjects they know nothing about. Again, it is a case of sorting out the fools from the good ones, those who consistently give good advice. Still, the fools are a PITA at times.
#73
Joined: Sep 2003
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I use tripadvisor mostly for the hotel pictures that regular people post. I have avoided hotels due to too many gross pictures by people. A hotel can sound good but pictures can show a different side of it.
The beach could be altered on "official" hotel pictures and it may not look like those pictures on a daily basis. People can post pics of a "free breakfast" that shows it's sparse. When rooms are less than clean or have chronic problems, people post this too. I find this to be helpful.
I take the written reviews with a grain of salt but I try to read multiple reviews and find themes in them. It's just one more place to find info. I prefer to have a Fodorite give a recommendation but there are so many places and not everyone here writes trip reports.
The beach could be altered on "official" hotel pictures and it may not look like those pictures on a daily basis. People can post pics of a "free breakfast" that shows it's sparse. When rooms are less than clean or have chronic problems, people post this too. I find this to be helpful.
I take the written reviews with a grain of salt but I try to read multiple reviews and find themes in them. It's just one more place to find info. I prefer to have a Fodorite give a recommendation but there are so many places and not everyone here writes trip reports.
#74
Joined: Feb 2014
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I use TA all the time and always carefully read all the reviews. It is easy to separate the 20-something honeymooners from the seasoned travelers and often easy to spot the plants.I travel many times a year and post often on TA.I found extraordinary guides in Prague and in Budapest from that site,although the only guide rated higher than the one I used in Prague was "Segway" which I thought was a joke.I take my own reviews very seriously and review hotels and restaurants in great detail.I am a luxury traveler and find TA has often been extremely helpful
#75
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I agree that top #10 lists are not the best things to plan your trips, but it gives you some orientation if you don't know anything about a place. I always consider other resources as well before going somewhere. That's my opinion.
But there also may be people who find it easier to have a list, do/see these things and that's it. Whatever you think, TA has lots of users (http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...ors-in-the-uk/) and that gives them the right to exist. Fair enough.
But there also may be people who find it easier to have a list, do/see these things and that's it. Whatever you think, TA has lots of users (http://www.statista.com/statistics/2...ors-in-the-uk/) and that gives them the right to exist. Fair enough.
#76
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TripAdvisor policies regarding listing properties are enabling fraudulent bookings. We had an unknown person steal our pictures and descriptions of one of our villas and list it on TripAdvisor and Holiday Lettings. When we notified both firms that this advertisement was unauthorized and that this person had no permission to rent the property or to use our content, they would do nothing about removing the ad. This house was being offered with online booking. The year prior we had guests arrive, who had booked online and paid for the villa, but did not have a reservation and the owners were never paid. In this case this family lost their money and had no place to stay.
Contrast this with our experience with YouTube, where someone had posted one of our videos without permission. Within a few hours of our notifying them, YouTube had removed the video and required the poster to show proof that they had permission to use the video. This is the correct procedure according to international copyright and IP law and it protects users and owners from potentially fraudulent activity.
It is up to guests, owners and legitimate agencies to expose these bad policies and to make potential guests aware of policies like those of TripAdvisor and Holiday Lettings, which put renters at risk of losing money.
Nina Burns
Adriatic Experience
Contrast this with our experience with YouTube, where someone had posted one of our videos without permission. Within a few hours of our notifying them, YouTube had removed the video and required the poster to show proof that they had permission to use the video. This is the correct procedure according to international copyright and IP law and it protects users and owners from potentially fraudulent activity.
It is up to guests, owners and legitimate agencies to expose these bad policies and to make potential guests aware of policies like those of TripAdvisor and Holiday Lettings, which put renters at risk of losing money.
Nina Burns
Adriatic Experience
#79
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I like TA, and generally read the bad reviews first and work my way up figuring that people who are unhappy will be more interesting.
When I write a review on TA and I'm happy, it's the same boring things.
The bed was comfortable and the place was clean... blah blah blah.
Which is what I want to read, over and over again.
I like to see why people were unhappy; maybe they were just expecting something different for the price and if that's the case that's fine. I might not mind if there's not a great view or it's not right in the center.
If they are unhappy with the desk clerk, who cares? They may be hard to get along with. If everyone is unhappy with the clerk, then that's saying something.
When I write a review on TA and I'm happy, it's the same boring things.
The bed was comfortable and the place was clean... blah blah blah.
Which is what I want to read, over and over again.
I like to see why people were unhappy; maybe they were just expecting something different for the price and if that's the case that's fine. I might not mind if there's not a great view or it's not right in the center.
If they are unhappy with the desk clerk, who cares? They may be hard to get along with. If everyone is unhappy with the clerk, then that's saying something.
#80
Joined: Aug 2011
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As I said.. I like and use TA,, but I do not trust every DE.. I have met several.. and they often do not even agree with each other!!! I have also seen a few with very strong bias.. fight with each other openly. That said.. THEY ARE ALL VOLUNTEER posters and nothing is that special about any of them other then experience and time to post and post and post.. lol . They are not paid.
I love the review sections and use them a lot.. if you can't figure out a plant then perhaps you should stay home .. or buhy that bridge for sale in New York.. lol
The photos by reviewers are awesome too.
I love the review sections and use them a lot.. if you can't figure out a plant then perhaps you should stay home .. or buhy that bridge for sale in New York.. lol
The photos by reviewers are awesome too.

