Airbnb / Horrible Experience!
#21
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There have been numerous news articles regarding the dodgy practices of AirBnb. To attack "Alamojo" for posting his/her negative experience puts this board in to nearly the same category.
Posters with no experience on an issue really should take a step back. And to those who disparage a post for grammar or layout (known as "paragraps" by the grammar police above). Is that the most relevant comment to this post?
I am thankful to Alamojo for posting his/her experience. It is just one more voice to make me (and other travelers) think twice when or if they use AirBnB.
<i>"Forewarned is Forearmed".</i>?
Posters with no experience on an issue really should take a step back. And to those who disparage a post for grammar or layout (known as "paragraps" by the grammar police above). Is that the most relevant comment to this post?
I am thankful to Alamojo for posting his/her experience. It is just one more voice to make me (and other travelers) think twice when or if they use AirBnB.
<i>"Forewarned is Forearmed".</i>?
#22
Joined: Mar 2015
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TC
I can't read a long text without breaking it.
If you want to raise interest, you try to make your case appealing or sexy, don't you ?
And you will note that I reacted to the first post, which was just a rant, and that my position changed over the length of the thread - maybe you can't read everything either or you're not in for subtleties, are you ?
And I thank you for putting me in the same category of the dodgy practices of Airbnb. Very subtle, actually.
I can't read a long text without breaking it.
If you want to raise interest, you try to make your case appealing or sexy, don't you ?
And you will note that I reacted to the first post, which was just a rant, and that my position changed over the length of the thread - maybe you can't read everything either or you're not in for subtleties, are you ?
And I thank you for putting me in the same category of the dodgy practices of Airbnb. Very subtle, actually.
#23



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TC: >>To attack "Alamojo" for posting his/her negative experience puts this board in to nearly the same category.<<
It wasn't that she posted her 'negative experience' by starting this thread -- it was that she dredged up <u>twelve</u> additional old threads in the space of a couple of hours and posted the same exact thing over and over and over and over.
That seems overly obsessive IMO. And it was only after being called to task and challenged that she managed to post an understandable version.
One thread - OK I get it. Being so upset she couldn't organize her thoughts - fine. But to basically hijack Fodors on Aug 7 posting to thirteen threads . . .
It wasn't that she posted her 'negative experience' by starting this thread -- it was that she dredged up <u>twelve</u> additional old threads in the space of a couple of hours and posted the same exact thing over and over and over and over.
That seems overly obsessive IMO. And it was only after being called to task and challenged that she managed to post an understandable version.
One thread - OK I get it. Being so upset she couldn't organize her thoughts - fine. But to basically hijack Fodors on Aug 7 posting to thirteen threads . . .
#24
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Oh come on...no one appointed you the Fodors posting police! If you don't like the post, don't read it......and don't add comments that have nothing to do with the subject. If you have first hand experience with the text...great. If not, why not stay quiet? You might learn something.
#25
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We had a very normal experience with Airbnb.
While the 3 bedroom apartment rental was for this past July in Paris, we had rented this apartment the previous September.
We took my GD, BF, sister, friend and it was an economical way for us afford this apartment for 6.
There was a middle man, specialapartments.com and they were terrific.
After Paris in July, the villa we rented was thru Home Away in Nice overlooking the sea. Fourteen family and friends were with us. This villa was also rented in September, but in 2013 and the owner gave us a decent discount because of renting 22 months in advance..
We all have different experiences and I for one would not hesitate to rent from Airbnb again.
While the 3 bedroom apartment rental was for this past July in Paris, we had rented this apartment the previous September.
We took my GD, BF, sister, friend and it was an economical way for us afford this apartment for 6.
There was a middle man, specialapartments.com and they were terrific.
After Paris in July, the villa we rented was thru Home Away in Nice overlooking the sea. Fourteen family and friends were with us. This villa was also rented in September, but in 2013 and the owner gave us a decent discount because of renting 22 months in advance..
We all have different experiences and I for one would not hesitate to rent from Airbnb again.
#26

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@iris1745 - FYI: http://www.fodors.com/community/euro...g-in-paris.cfm
#28
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Hi; I know, I have been on many, many threads about the local laws in Paris.
We know that Airbnb is now collecting the city tax.
I have seen numbers that suggest that Airbnb has in excess of 40,000 apartments in Paris.
Paris officials have perhaps raided a few hundred apartment owners, but have never put any tourist on the street.
I have read on some of these threads apartments being closed before renters arrived without access to the apartment they rented.
But no actual numbers.
I have a feeling, without any factual basis, that issues will be worked out.
Not sure if we will get back to Paris again to rent in an apartment, but for me, if I need an apartment, I will look at Airbnb and many others before making a decision.
Remember, I have been called immoral a few times by the saviors of Paris, so I have an exemption.
We know that Airbnb is now collecting the city tax.
I have seen numbers that suggest that Airbnb has in excess of 40,000 apartments in Paris.
Paris officials have perhaps raided a few hundred apartment owners, but have never put any tourist on the street.
I have read on some of these threads apartments being closed before renters arrived without access to the apartment they rented.
But no actual numbers.
I have a feeling, without any factual basis, that issues will be worked out.
Not sure if we will get back to Paris again to rent in an apartment, but for me, if I need an apartment, I will look at Airbnb and many others before making a decision.
Remember, I have been called immoral a few times by the saviors of Paris, so I have an exemption.
#29
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Immoral ?
Why ?
Because you don't care if the apt you stay in is legal ?
For me it is like buying something that has been stolen : you make a good bargain and consider it ok for whatever reasons. Yet you buy a stolen good from a thief.
If you rent from an owner who doesn't declare his income and help him by paying cash - you tell me the difference ?
But yes, it may be that we get a solution in Paris - one that would include paying taxes, so paying higher prices to renters if they want to keep their level of net income.
Which is fine for me.
The only thing I dislike with owners renting illegally is that they don't declare their income. I work, I pay tax. I put my money in a bank I pay taxes. I haves sdividends, I pay taxes. I buy a flat, I rent it I don't pay taxes. Why ? Moral ?
The only thing I don't like with people who rent illegal flats is that they say it is their right to do it. No. They are accomplices to fraud.
My opinion...
Why ?
Because you don't care if the apt you stay in is legal ?
For me it is like buying something that has been stolen : you make a good bargain and consider it ok for whatever reasons. Yet you buy a stolen good from a thief.
If you rent from an owner who doesn't declare his income and help him by paying cash - you tell me the difference ?
But yes, it may be that we get a solution in Paris - one that would include paying taxes, so paying higher prices to renters if they want to keep their level of net income.
Which is fine for me.
The only thing I dislike with owners renting illegally is that they don't declare their income. I work, I pay tax. I put my money in a bank I pay taxes. I haves sdividends, I pay taxes. I buy a flat, I rent it I don't pay taxes. Why ? Moral ?
The only thing I don't like with people who rent illegal flats is that they say it is their right to do it. No. They are accomplices to fraud.
My opinion...
#32
Joined: Aug 2009
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I had a very similar experience with Airbnb. I will never use them again. I had booked my stay overseas and wasn’t the gate getting on my flight when I received cancellation notice from Airbnb.
Apparently they decided they needed more verification of my identity (even though we had just returned from another vacation the previous month having used Airbnb) . Airbnb asked for pictures of my drivers license so I did that. Then they wanted a picture of the back of the DL with the strip. I did that. Then they wanted my cell number to text a verification code. I did that too. This went on and on. I refused to show them pictures of my passport because it had gone too far and they cancelled my reservation. Luckily the host and I continued to correspond and I was able to stay at her lovely place anyway. I will never use Airbnb again.
Apparently they decided they needed more verification of my identity (even though we had just returned from another vacation the previous month having used Airbnb) . Airbnb asked for pictures of my drivers license so I did that. Then they wanted a picture of the back of the DL with the strip. I did that. Then they wanted my cell number to text a verification code. I did that too. This went on and on. I refused to show them pictures of my passport because it had gone too far and they cancelled my reservation. Luckily the host and I continued to correspond and I was able to stay at her lovely place anyway. I will never use Airbnb again.
#34
Joined: Feb 2009
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We had a very normal experience with Airbnb.
While the 3 bedroom apartment rental was for this past July in Paris, we had rented this apartment the previous September.
We took my GD, BF, sister, friend and it was an economical way for us afford this apartment for 6.
There was a middle man, specialapartments.com and they were terrific.
After Paris in July, the villa we rented was thru Home Away in Nice overlooking the sea. Fourteen family and friends were with us. This villa was also rented in September, but in 2013 and the owner gave us a decent discount because of renting 22 months in advance..
We all have different experiences and I for one would not hesitate to rent from Airbnb again.
While the 3 bedroom apartment rental was for this past July in Paris, we had rented this apartment the previous September.
We took my GD, BF, sister, friend and it was an economical way for us afford this apartment for 6.
There was a middle man, specialapartments.com and they were terrific.
After Paris in July, the villa we rented was thru Home Away in Nice overlooking the sea. Fourteen family and friends were with us. This villa was also rented in September, but in 2013 and the owner gave us a decent discount because of renting 22 months in advance..
We all have different experiences and I for one would not hesitate to rent from Airbnb again.
What?? Are you saying, Homeaway connected to AirBnB? I thought it's a part of VRBO that has no connection to AirBnB. Hmmm...
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