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Jun 23rd, 2005, 03:10 AM
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I will answer anyway, but keep it brief....No, not a leftist...at least in the sense it is usually used in Argentina....
But I am particularly interested in the plight of the poor in Argentina, especially in the wake of the crisis of 2001...and efforts to combat poverty....
But I am particularly interested in the plight of the poor in Argentina, especially in the wake of the crisis of 2001...and efforts to combat poverty....
Jun 23rd, 2005, 04:21 AM
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Hi, Doc!
I am no expert on "the plight of the poor in Argentina, especially in the wake of the crisis of 2001...and efforts to combat poverty...." but perhaps I can help you understand.
So, write to me like you said you would.
At this writing, I expect to be in the Recoleta area Saturday afternoon, not sure of the exact time yet.
I am no expert on "the plight of the poor in Argentina, especially in the wake of the crisis of 2001...and efforts to combat poverty...." but perhaps I can help you understand.
So, write to me like you said you would.
At this writing, I expect to be in the Recoleta area Saturday afternoon, not sure of the exact time yet.
Jun 27th, 2005, 10:07 AM
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Hi, everybody!
The good drdawggy and his students may be taking my tour sometime within the next few days.
As an American who lives part of the time in BA, he is, at least as far as I'm concerned, the acknowledged top foreign authority on Argentina in this forum.
I imagine he will write a report on my tour and post it here, so everybody (myself included) can find out how good (or bad) it is.
The good drdawggy and his students may be taking my tour sometime within the next few days.
As an American who lives part of the time in BA, he is, at least as far as I'm concerned, the acknowledged top foreign authority on Argentina in this forum.
I imagine he will write a report on my tour and post it here, so everybody (myself included) can find out how good (or bad) it is.
Sep 4th, 2005, 07:58 AM
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avrooster,
We're on! My wife and I are coming to Buenos Aires in late Oct. and I can't think of a better way to get to know your City. Please contact me at [email protected]. I can't wait to show you around the magnificent mountains of Colorado in return and serve you a Buffalo Steak!
PAPAJAS
We're on! My wife and I are coming to Buenos Aires in late Oct. and I can't think of a better way to get to know your City. Please contact me at [email protected]. I can't wait to show you around the magnificent mountains of Colorado in return and serve you a Buffalo Steak!
PAPAJAS
Sep 4th, 2005, 09:50 AM
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Great, Mr. PAPAJAS!
As indicated higher up on this thread, my e-mail is [email protected]
Contact me at your convenience, to arrange for the exact day and time. As indicated in my first post on this thread, my tour has to be done from Monday to Thursday at about 6,30 PM.
Furthermore, I would suggest doing it during the first part of your stay, so, if we hit it off (which I'm sure we will) maybe we can arrange for other activities during the rest of your stay.
Next Wednesday, Sept. 7, I'll have forum member MauraNYC as the first volunteer for my tour, so it is very likely that, before you leave for Argentina, we'll have here some feedback from her about my tour.
I imagine the Colorado mountains must be really beautiful and I hope I will like buffalo steak.
As indicated higher up on this thread, my e-mail is [email protected]
Contact me at your convenience, to arrange for the exact day and time. As indicated in my first post on this thread, my tour has to be done from Monday to Thursday at about 6,30 PM.
Furthermore, I would suggest doing it during the first part of your stay, so, if we hit it off (which I'm sure we will) maybe we can arrange for other activities during the rest of your stay.
Next Wednesday, Sept. 7, I'll have forum member MauraNYC as the first volunteer for my tour, so it is very likely that, before you leave for Argentina, we'll have here some feedback from her about my tour.
I imagine the Colorado mountains must be really beautiful and I hope I will like buffalo steak.
Sep 18th, 2005, 05:45 PM
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Hello fellow travelers. I just wanted to post a message informing you all that I was the first person to take avrooster's alternative BA tour. It was most interesting to say the least. As Alberto says words can't describe the cartonero train, you have to see this to believe it. I also enjoyed seeing the very nice shopping center and supermarket, I think the biggest I have ever seen with the cheapest prices I have also ever seen!
We also went to a very nice Brazilian restaurant, Rodizio, in the port - I am not a red meat eater so part of the experience was lost on me but the food was very high quality and of course very reasonably priced for a non Argentinian. If you are a curious traveler I highly suggest taking this tour which is free of charge.
We also went to a very nice Brazilian restaurant, Rodizio, in the port - I am not a red meat eater so part of the experience was lost on me but the food was very high quality and of course very reasonably priced for a non Argentinian. If you are a curious traveler I highly suggest taking this tour which is free of charge.
Sep 21st, 2005, 08:01 AM
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Dear AVRooster
Can you help me? I am bringing a group of 16/17 year olds to play rugby in Argentina. This is not my first trip but I woinder if you can give me info about what to do with the boys in towns/cities such as Parana, Cordoba, Venado Tuerto and BA. I am looking for activities they will enjoy andwill also let them learn something about your country.
Thanks
EBAN from Cape Town
Can you help me? I am bringing a group of 16/17 year olds to play rugby in Argentina. This is not my first trip but I woinder if you can give me info about what to do with the boys in towns/cities such as Parana, Cordoba, Venado Tuerto and BA. I am looking for activities they will enjoy andwill also let them learn something about your country.
Thanks
EBAN from Cape Town
Sep 21st, 2005, 09:08 AM
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Hi, Eban!
I visited your town a quarter of century ago and always consider going there again, but the rand is very high, at the present time.
I'll think about your question, but it is a difficult one for me, because we only had daughters and they are already grown up, so I am out of touch about what you can do with a group of 16/17 years old males (except being driven crazy, of course).
One thing I'll do is ask my youngest (21) daughter.
You did not say what time of the year you are coming, budget, etc.
I must say I'm rather puzzled about why the parents of the boys on OUR rugby teams do not seem to be helping you with this, as they should be.
One suggestion: ask the same question on tripadvisor.com and direct it to santiagov, who does not post here any more. He may be better able to help you than I am and he could well be a former rugby player.
His English is not terribly good, but I hope you'll manage to communicate (joke).
I'll let you know if I get any bright ideas.
Of course, I'd be pleased to show you around Buenos Aires. You can write to me to [email protected] as indicated higher up on this thread.
I visited your town a quarter of century ago and always consider going there again, but the rand is very high, at the present time.
I'll think about your question, but it is a difficult one for me, because we only had daughters and they are already grown up, so I am out of touch about what you can do with a group of 16/17 years old males (except being driven crazy, of course).
One thing I'll do is ask my youngest (21) daughter.
You did not say what time of the year you are coming, budget, etc.
I must say I'm rather puzzled about why the parents of the boys on OUR rugby teams do not seem to be helping you with this, as they should be.
One suggestion: ask the same question on tripadvisor.com and direct it to santiagov, who does not post here any more. He may be better able to help you than I am and he could well be a former rugby player.
His English is not terribly good, but I hope you'll manage to communicate (joke).
I'll let you know if I get any bright ideas.
Of course, I'd be pleased to show you around Buenos Aires. You can write to me to [email protected] as indicated higher up on this thread.
Sep 21st, 2005, 05:21 PM
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Hi, Eban!
I saw you also posted this question in Frommer's and did not get much feedback.
However, in that thread you provided much more information than you gave me, such as: "They are coming to experience Argentina whilst playing rugby eg horse riding, boating, fishing, visiting ranches etc." I also read you plan to come next winter.
I again suggest you post on tripadvisor.com, providing as much information as possible.
Obviously, horse riding and visiting ranches should be easy and can be done in any number of places. Not exactly the right season for boating, but fishing should certainly be possible, particularly in Concordia and Paraná.
Again, I come back to the fact that the parents of the boys your boys play against should be of great help with this.
Of course, you could also research previous threads, both here and on tripadvisor.com and you should find at least part of the information you are looking for.
Talk to you later.
I saw you also posted this question in Frommer's and did not get much feedback.
However, in that thread you provided much more information than you gave me, such as: "They are coming to experience Argentina whilst playing rugby eg horse riding, boating, fishing, visiting ranches etc." I also read you plan to come next winter.
I again suggest you post on tripadvisor.com, providing as much information as possible.
Obviously, horse riding and visiting ranches should be easy and can be done in any number of places. Not exactly the right season for boating, but fishing should certainly be possible, particularly in Concordia and Paraná.
Again, I come back to the fact that the parents of the boys your boys play against should be of great help with this.
Of course, you could also research previous threads, both here and on tripadvisor.com and you should find at least part of the information you are looking for.
Talk to you later.
Sep 26th, 2005, 10:02 AM
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Dear AV Rooster
My humblest apologies. I did not go through your replies very carefully. Thanks for your offer.
I have been to Argentina several times before but am always looking for something different. Yes, you are correct the clubs we play against and parents who host the boys do help us tremendously but perhaps the readers may know something different and exciting.
Earlier this yearI brought a team as well and went up from BA via Santa Fe, Posadas to the falls and on the return we played in Concepcion del Uruguay. This was a great trip and the falls were unbelievable. We were there for 6 hours and the boys did not want to go home they enjoyed it so much.
See what you can do re more info and once again my apologies for not reading through all your replies.
Regards
EBAN
My humblest apologies. I did not go through your replies very carefully. Thanks for your offer.
I have been to Argentina several times before but am always looking for something different. Yes, you are correct the clubs we play against and parents who host the boys do help us tremendously but perhaps the readers may know something different and exciting.
Earlier this yearI brought a team as well and went up from BA via Santa Fe, Posadas to the falls and on the return we played in Concepcion del Uruguay. This was a great trip and the falls were unbelievable. We were there for 6 hours and the boys did not want to go home they enjoyed it so much.
See what you can do re more info and once again my apologies for not reading through all your replies.
Regards
EBAN
Sep 27th, 2005, 10:05 AM
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Hi-
It seems like you have a HUGE amount of "takers" for your tour.
I would also love to try it. We will not be there until December, though, so I was wondering if you could help me now with where would be the best place to stay.
We would like to be near the beach. Where would the best place be?
Also, we live in Brooklyn, right near the subway to Manhattan.
I look forward to hearing from you.
-rwsherman10@hotmail (feel free to email)
It seems like you have a HUGE amount of "takers" for your tour.
I would also love to try it. We will not be there until December, though, so I was wondering if you could help me now with where would be the best place to stay.
We would like to be near the beach. Where would the best place be?
Also, we live in Brooklyn, right near the subway to Manhattan.
I look forward to hearing from you.
-rwsherman10@hotmail (feel free to email)
Sep 27th, 2005, 10:46 AM
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rwsherman10:
No beach in Buenos Aires.
You ask about the "best" place to stay, without indicating any cost limitations. That would be the Alvear Palace Hotel. Best hotel, best location, but expensive. If that is not what you want, or no accomodations are available at the Alvear for your travel dates, you should do your "homework", by looking at any number of previous threads in which all kinds of hotel accomodations in Buenos Aires have been discussed in this forum and other tourism forums and then come back with more specific questions.
No beach in Buenos Aires.
You ask about the "best" place to stay, without indicating any cost limitations. That would be the Alvear Palace Hotel. Best hotel, best location, but expensive. If that is not what you want, or no accomodations are available at the Alvear for your travel dates, you should do your "homework", by looking at any number of previous threads in which all kinds of hotel accomodations in Buenos Aires have been discussed in this forum and other tourism forums and then come back with more specific questions.
Sep 27th, 2005, 04:41 PM
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"Cartonero" train:
For those of you who can read some Spanish, a reader's letter titled "El tren espectral" was published yesterday in our leading newspaper:
http://buscador.lanacion.com.ar/Nota...mp;high=cartas
For those of you who can read some Spanish, a reader's letter titled "El tren espectral" was published yesterday in our leading newspaper:
http://buscador.lanacion.com.ar/Nota...mp;high=cartas
Sep 30th, 2005, 04:26 PM
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Hola Alberto,
We are going o visit Argentina in late November we will be there for 2 wks some day in BA, Bariloch, Calafate and Iguazu. We are a group of 10 people and we are interested in your tour. We are flying form Mexico City (we are mexicans) and will like to know more about your tours. We will like o know some of those markets MauraNYC mentioned. If you can contact me at [email protected] I will appreciate it.
We are realy looking forward for this trip!!!!
We are going o visit Argentina in late November we will be there for 2 wks some day in BA, Bariloch, Calafate and Iguazu. We are a group of 10 people and we are interested in your tour. We are flying form Mexico City (we are mexicans) and will like to know more about your tours. We will like o know some of those markets MauraNYC mentioned. If you can contact me at [email protected] I will appreciate it.
We are realy looking forward for this trip!!!!
Sep 30th, 2005, 04:35 PM
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Alberto,
I noticed I made a mistake on the e-mail address... the correct one is [email protected].
I am looking forward to hear from you soon....
I noticed I made a mistake on the e-mail address... the correct one is [email protected].
I am looking forward to hear from you soon....
Sep 30th, 2005, 05:15 PM
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Well, Mr. Mc Velez (I hope you appreciate my sense of humor), when I worked in the hospitality business I usually related well to Mexicans, so we should have a good time together.
I suggest you do your homework by reading carefully this thread and others I have posted in and e-mail me to [email protected] telling me more about the dates of your stay in Buenos Aires, the people in your group and any further information you wish to provide.
The mall Maura mentioned is called the Unicenter and you do not find many tourists there, because it is away from town, but near where I live.
Let me hear from you, in Spanish, of course.
I suggest you do your homework by reading carefully this thread and others I have posted in and e-mail me to [email protected] telling me more about the dates of your stay in Buenos Aires, the people in your group and any further information you wish to provide.
The mall Maura mentioned is called the Unicenter and you do not find many tourists there, because it is away from town, but near where I live.
Let me hear from you, in Spanish, of course.
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Hola Avrooster..
Aqui estoy - a sus ordenes.
I hope to be in Buenos Aires from November 5 to 12th with a friend and would be interested in taking your tour. I am not sure whether my friend would want to though. Since it would be 1 or maximum 2 people, I was wondering if you have any other people doing the tour in that time period who I could join in with. Or would you be prepared to give the tour for one or 2??
You may wonder why I say my friend might not be interested. I am not sure she wants to see the "real" anything. We each want different things from our travels I think her main reason for going back to BA is to shop and perhaps eat and drink lattes in cute cafes. For example when she talks about the trip we took to Costa Rica, she tells people that what she remembers is "the nice hotel near the airport and the Tex Mex Restaurant around the corner form it." The "nice hotel" was the Hampton Inn (a hotel devoid of any character and besides not even that nice - but just like the ones we have here... So if that is what made the most impression on her when we saw all sorts of nature and more typical things in the country, then I am not sure exactly what she wants from her travel.
But perhaps she will surprise me.
This thread is getting very long... maybe it is time to restart it. (though it is full of interesting information and discussions)
regards,
Raquel
Aqui estoy - a sus ordenes.
I hope to be in Buenos Aires from November 5 to 12th with a friend and would be interested in taking your tour. I am not sure whether my friend would want to though. Since it would be 1 or maximum 2 people, I was wondering if you have any other people doing the tour in that time period who I could join in with. Or would you be prepared to give the tour for one or 2??
You may wonder why I say my friend might not be interested. I am not sure she wants to see the "real" anything. We each want different things from our travels I think her main reason for going back to BA is to shop and perhaps eat and drink lattes in cute cafes. For example when she talks about the trip we took to Costa Rica, she tells people that what she remembers is "the nice hotel near the airport and the Tex Mex Restaurant around the corner form it." The "nice hotel" was the Hampton Inn (a hotel devoid of any character and besides not even that nice - but just like the ones we have here... So if that is what made the most impression on her when we saw all sorts of nature and more typical things in the country, then I am not sure exactly what she wants from her travel.
But perhaps she will surprise me.
This thread is getting very long... maybe it is time to restart it. (though it is full of interesting information and discussions)
regards,
Raquel
