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Old Dec 19th, 2004, 02:48 PM
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http://nobelprize.org/peace/laureates/1987/
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Old Dec 19th, 2004, 03:50 PM
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http://nobelprize.org/peace/laureates/1987/

Thank you miguel.

I was just going to post this website and see that you have the same posting.

The website was sent to me by a dear friend in Costa Rica.

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Hi Guys! I stand corrected! Don't know why 1994 was standing out in my mind... Thanks for the facts, nothing but the facts!

Miguel, the original poster of that thread is an Oklahoma lady whom I've been in touch with by e-mail. She and I live about an hour apart. We'll have to get together sometime for a chat--she and her husband have some great trips under their belts! I'll check the latest on that thread. I've been swamped all afternoon!

No, I don't teach espanol, but have a few students who don't speak English, so I am an unofficial ESL teacher, I guess. I speak to them some in Spanish, but also encourage them to use English, to read aloud in class, etc. One little guy is making huge progress, but one of the girls really struggles. For the first time, I've been able to have parent-teacher conferences in espanol this year. Great progress on my part, and it makes me very happy! I love working with those kids, and most of the families are great people. It adds a lot of joy to my day!

I have a daughter who may be moving to Florida soon. If I ever get there to visit, we'll look you up! Feliz Navidad!
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Hello Percy:

Hope I can help you with you doub about when Oscar Arias Sanchez won the Peace Nobel Price.
As far as I know, he won the Prize in 1987 and it was offered for his efforts and projects for peace in Central America. As you know, some Central American countries have been involved in different war or struggles among them, so he worked to bring peace to these countries.

One more thing, following the quiz on Costa Rica, I forgot to mention that there was another civil war, it was named: "Guerra de la Liga" and it took place in 1835. The reason, main provinces (ALajuela, Cartago, heredia and San Jose) wanted to have the capital city, but this war only took 16 minutes, It was as a result of "Ley de la Ambulancia" , a law which was issued by one of our expresidents, Juan Rafael Gallegos in 1833 trying to avoid struggle among our citizens, this law said that our capital city would rotate from one of the main cities to the other one every 2 years, but it didnīt work, in 1835 Braulio Carrillos, one of our former presidents, and a very important person in Costa Ricaīs history nuled the law and set the capital in San Jose (maybe you donīt know that our capital was in Cartago before that)

One more thing, for those that donīt know, we use two last names (the first one is from our father and the second one from our mother, thatīs why, Oscar Arias Sanchez.

Ah! Percy, i must say that you have a great knowledge of our culture and history and you could even teach it to other people interested. As per my knowledge, thank you very much...but there is a reason...I just finished my carrer as a "tour guide", so I have my knowledges fresh!!

Talking about pineapple, it is true, we are exporting this product too, we are actually exporting many non-traditional products to other countries as after many years of producing and exporting coffee as our main income, we realized that it was affected by different international crisis which brought crisis to our economy as well...thatīs why we are promoting other products and tourism, as well.
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Sonair:

Thank you very muchfor your report and for the added information.

Yes,I knew that Cartago was the Capital until it was moved over to San Jose.

That is a very lovely and "must see" Church you have in Cartago.

But people DO NOT try to see this church on August 2nd !!!

You will make a very good Tour Guide I am sure of that.

You people are also exporting Cantaloupe now and doing it in a big way.. good for you.

Also , I was surprised that of all the sugar fields I saw last week in your lovely country that Costa Rica still has to import sugar !

I like all your desserts in your country. They are not super sweet like we have in North America.

Merry Christmas to you

Percy





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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 07:29 PM
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Although the agricultural exports are the traditional answer, Costa Rica is moving into the 21st century. Her number one export is now actually microprocessors.

The Intel plant outside of San José brings in most of the raw materials, assembles, and then ships out microprocessors that on the retail market are worth more than all of Costa Rica's other exports combined.

This sometimes slips through the cracks of statistical observations because the product is not mined or grown in Costa Rica, but economically it's the undisputed champion.

Another interesting export (although not in the same economic league with computer chips, coffee, bananas and lilies) are the baseballs manufactured in Turrialba for every major league game in the U.S. up to and including the world series.
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Old Dec 20th, 2004, 07:31 PM
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Here's a deceptive one to add to the list.

11) Who "named" Costa Rica, and why did they dub it the Rich Coast?
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 12:49 AM
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Ray, that is a Rawlings baseball plant in Turrialba? I read about it some time back and how fast the workers could do the stitches. And then there are the macadamia nuts. . .
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Yes, although Rawlins makes all of the balls on your local sporting goods store shelves in China, the ones for the major leagues are made in Costa Rica. They haven't moved it to a cheaper location because they are afraid that if the number of home runs were to go up or down significantly after changing manufacturing locations there would be a big brooha about juiced balls ect.

There is an interesting NYTimes article from January about baseballs and free trade.

Low-Wage Costa Ricans Make Baseballs for Millionaires
By TIM WEINER

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Low-Wage Costa Ricans Make Baseballs for Millionaires

Very controversial issue, is exactly what is happening with the "maquilas" clothes manufacturing in Latin America and the multimillion dollars corporation benefiting from this.

IMO, it has to be seen from both sides and how it is benefiting the locals too. Not sure about unemployment in Costa Rica, but the other Central American countries have incredible high level of unemployment, these manufacturing companies are helping all these people, providing employment, consequently bringing food to the table. It is true they get paid minimum wage, but they get paid the standard wages for the country.
From a foreigner prospective, this is even called slavery, the locals have to choices, starve or work at minimum wage, also most of these workers have hardly any education, grammar school if any.
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 07:22 AM
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Yes, I believe that is the article I read. I received the NYTimes online for awhile, so makes sense.

Miguel, you have a good point. I would think that as long as working conditions are not demeaning or abusive, the local economy would benefit a great deal from these plants. And, of course, the individuals.
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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 08:42 AM
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costaricaguide:
I think the answer to your question #11 is:

"Who named Costa Rica and why did they dub it the Rich Coast"?

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I think it was Christopher Columbus in about 1502.
He called it the Rich Coast because when Columbus came ashore the Indians were wearing glittering gold ornament.

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Old Dec 21st, 2004, 09:46 AM
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Percy,
I warned you that it was a deceptive question.... ;-)
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costaricaguide,

Was Percy's answer correct??If not why was it called the "Rich Coast"?

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The short answer is that if you look in most texts, or guidebooks they'll state that Columbus did indeed name Costa Rica

If you dig a little deeper it seems unlikely.

Columbus “discovered” Costa Rica in 1502 on his last voyage to the Western Hemisphere. He anchored in the Caribbean near the current location of Limón and sent out a landing party. Tradition says that Columbus christened this land Costa Rica, the “rich coast”. While he did state that he'd seen "more signs of gold in the first two days" than in years of other explorations, he referred to the area as La Huerta (The Garden). Grim descriptions in his logs report dense jungle and sucking swamps, and he returned to Spain as soon as repairs to his storm damaged ships were completed seventeen days later-never mentioning Costa Rica.


According to my history books, Gil Gonzálas Dávilla is a more likely source of what in the era of the conquistadors was an irresistible moniker. He employed brutal tactics to strip what little gold the Indians had scoured from the rivers of the Osa Peninsula on a bloody march from Panama to the gulf of Nicoya in 1522. After failing miserably in his mission to establish a permanent settlement, he returned home with the stolen gold and a proclamation that the area should be called the "Rich Coast" in a attempt to disguise his defeat as an auspicious exploration.

I's easy to see why the romantic Columbus version is more popular than the brutal subjugation and theft version, but the lack of his use of the phrase in his extensive logs seems to repudiate this.

There's yet a third version crediting Fernández de Córdoba who established the first successful Spanish settlement on the Nicoya Peninsula in 1539.

Any scholars out there with a definitive answer?
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Old Dec 22nd, 2004, 09:59 AM
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Thank You costaricaguide.

You shed a new light on this issue of why the Coast was named,"Rich Coast".

I enjoyed reading your detailed account.

Thank You once again.

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Old Jan 26th, 2005, 04:58 AM
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More Triva Questions:

Who designed the Costa Rican flag and why are the colors red, white and blue?

Who owned the land that the Liberia airport is built on?

Where did William Walker die and how?

Why does most of Latin America use two last names?

What is Oscar's full name?

By the way.... I got 9 of the 10 if computer chips is the right answer. Money wise bananas/pineapples and chips may lead, but the export that probably makes the most money for Costa Rica and Costa Ricans is probably coffee. The majority of the coffee plantations are still owned by Ticos. Initel and Standard Fruit are owned by foreigners as well as the land they occupy in CR. Some people believe the drastic drop in world coffee prices is a conspiracy to force world coffee farmers into bankruptcy so their plantations can be purchased for 10 cents on the dollar, the middle man (the farmer) will be cut out of the equation and the conspiritors profits will sky rocket when they get the coffee prices back to what they were in the early 90's.

PS........... I'm NOT buying coffee futures!
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Here are my answers for last questions of the triva quiz:

Who designed the Costa Rican flag and why are the colors red, white and blue?
It was designed by Mrs. Pacifica Fernandez in 1848. She was the wife of expresident Castro Madriz
Colors: red respresent blood from all people who died fighting
Blue: two oceans (Atlantic and Pacific)
White: liberty after indepence
Who owned the land that the Liberia airport is built on? Donīt know yet...but will check it later

Where did William Walker die and how?
He died in Honduras either in 1858 or 59. He was fusilated
Why does most of Latin America use two last names?
One last name is from father and the other one from the mother. I am not sure, but it must be a tradition brought by Spaniards
What is Oscar's full name?
Oscar Arias Sanchez

Please someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Old Jan 26th, 2005, 03:30 PM
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Thanks for the additional questions.


chuchi:
I am hardly the one to correct you

I knew about how the colcor blue in the flag came about but not about how the red and white came to be in the flag.

Also I knew about names coming from the father and mother as friends of mine in Costa Rica told me about this.

You know I do not know what fusilated means !!!!
If it has anything to do with being executed by firing Sqad,then this is what happened to William Walker in Honduras in 1858.

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Old Jan 26th, 2005, 10:33 PM
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Good thing this ain't baseball.........LOL pretty poor batting average.

Yes, Willy was gunned down in Honduras. This is the only one you have right.

Mrs. F did indeed "design" the flag BUT the colors may represent anything. That's not the question. How did it come to be those colors? (Hint: Turn the flag on it's side)

Can't give you hints for the airport. It would give the answer away.

Sure the two names are mom and dads..........but why!

Oscar has 4 names.

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