Customs in Europe
Mar 23rd, 2015, 03:25 PM
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Customs in Europe
This is my first trip to Europe. I will be leaving Dublin Ireland and connecting at CDG in Paris for my trip back home to the U.S.
My question is: we leave Dublin at 6:15 am. We arrive in Paris at 9:30 and leave Paris at 10:30 for SLC. The one hour scares me. I called Delta when they changed it to this brief time and they assured me it would be fine. When I inquired about changing it I was told it would cost me over $900. even though the tickets were 6 months out. Do I have to go through customs or recheck my suitcase? I am very worried about it. My sister has an hour and 20 minutes.
My question is: we leave Dublin at 6:15 am. We arrive in Paris at 9:30 and leave Paris at 10:30 for SLC. The one hour scares me. I called Delta when they changed it to this brief time and they assured me it would be fine. When I inquired about changing it I was told it would cost me over $900. even though the tickets were 6 months out. Do I have to go through customs or recheck my suitcase? I am very worried about it. My sister has an hour and 20 minutes.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 04:58 PM
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You do not have to go through immigration, customs or recheck your luggage.
But you do have to get from one gate to another (check which your planes will use) and CDG is HUGE. Plus you will have to go through security for the new flight.
There is no way I would take a one-hour connection - and I would think if you had more and they reduced it they would have to let you change to a later flight (but there may not be any until the next day).
For the best chance of making it sit as far forward in the plane as you can, know where your next gate is and how to get there and stat jogging as soon as you get off the plane.
But you do have to get from one gate to another (check which your planes will use) and CDG is HUGE. Plus you will have to go through security for the new flight.
There is no way I would take a one-hour connection - and I would think if you had more and they reduced it they would have to let you change to a later flight (but there may not be any until the next day).
For the best chance of making it sit as far forward in the plane as you can, know where your next gate is and how to get there and stat jogging as soon as you get off the plane.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 05:03 PM
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Thank you. I thought they should change it but wouldn't. There is a flight a couple of hours later to Seattle and we are between SLC and Seatac. Oh, well hope for the best. I hope to book a seat far forward as soon as they open seating. The flight out I am in the first row of the main cabin. Thanks again.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 05:23 PM
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One hour at CDG is risky even for less time consuming entry into the Schengen direction from the USA.
In you case, you are going through especially time consuming security check(s) at CDG to enter the USA. This is a near impossible connection unless you get an expedited escort to whisk you through the airport. I would make sure to have a reliable backup plan - what to do if you arrive much later than expected.
Months to departure has nothing to do with whether they would change the flights. They would only act if it required by regulation or to their interest. I think one hour, even if not practically possible, falls under "legal" layover limit and they are not under any obligation to fix the connection. Rather, they see this as yet another opportunity to gain revenue from travelers who cannot tolerate delays.
In you case, you are going through especially time consuming security check(s) at CDG to enter the USA. This is a near impossible connection unless you get an expedited escort to whisk you through the airport. I would make sure to have a reliable backup plan - what to do if you arrive much later than expected.
Months to departure has nothing to do with whether they would change the flights. They would only act if it required by regulation or to their interest. I think one hour, even if not practically possible, falls under "legal" layover limit and they are not under any obligation to fix the connection. Rather, they see this as yet another opportunity to gain revenue from travelers who cannot tolerate delays.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 06:49 PM
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If a later flight from CDG would get you to your destination not long after your original flight - and it's not a super busy time - I wouldn't lose sleep over it myself, especially if there is more than one later flight. (Unless you are traveling on an especially busy day or very busy time of the year.) Delta will know which passengers are connecting and trying to make the flight; they may hold the flight if you are ten minutes late or something but not if you are an hour late. Could be it will be an easier connection than you expect.
I'd post my query over at FlyerTalk where you may find people who have actually done this connection fairly recently and can report on it realistically.
I'd post my query over at FlyerTalk where you may find people who have actually done this connection fairly recently and can report on it realistically.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 07:13 PM
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Something doesn't add up time wise. Dublin to Paris is a 90 minute flight so even with the time change there's some extra time. You will need a passport stamp at CDG. Is it Air France for the first leg? AF now has very short legal transfers, something like 40 minutes, for terminal 2.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 08:03 PM
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<<so I'm not sure she'd be going through immigration upon arrival at CDG for a connecting flight out of Schengen to the US>>
Actually Andrew and Nytraveler you may be correct if you are able to transit airside between terminals / gates
Actually Andrew and Nytraveler you may be correct if you are able to transit airside between terminals / gates
Mar 23rd, 2015, 08:09 PM
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OK, just to know for sure: I looked up arrivals from Dublin and departures to the US. (Salt Lake City has no departures tomorrow it appears so I picked Atlanta instead.) Both uses terminal 2E. If that is the same for sallygee's connection, then there is no immigration, only a security check:
http://www.easycdg.com/1/information...aulle-airport/
http://www.easycdg.com/1/information...aulle-airport/
Mar 23rd, 2015, 09:08 PM
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You will have to go through passport control when arriving in Paris as Ireland is not a member of the Schengen countries, and not considered a domestic flight. Arrivals and departures are on different levels.
Mar 23rd, 2015, 09:29 PM
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"You will have to go through passport control when arriving in Paris as Ireland is not a member of the Schengen countries, and not considered a domestic flight.
Almost certainly untrue.
Assuming the flights are on the same ticket, the poster's luggage will be through-booked and the poster will be given a boarding pass for the transatlantic flight at Dublin. If this is the case, the poster will stay airside and make an international-to-international connection at CDG, going through security before embarking. If the luggage is not through-checked, life starts getting very messy.
<b> This would be the case whether the flight involved different terminals or the same terminal. And it is the standard process for international to international transfers throughout the civilised world.</b>
As so often happens, the United States almost always has an exceptionally bureaucratic and passenger-unfriendly procedure for a situation everyone else handles straightforwardly. With a couple of minor exceptions, a passenger with the misfortune to make an international to international transfer in the home of the oppressed has to go through both US Immigration and Customs.
In France, however - as in all other developed nations - passengers from outside Schengen transferring to another non-Schengen destination just go straight to their next departure gate.
Almost certainly untrue.
Assuming the flights are on the same ticket, the poster's luggage will be through-booked and the poster will be given a boarding pass for the transatlantic flight at Dublin. If this is the case, the poster will stay airside and make an international-to-international connection at CDG, going through security before embarking. If the luggage is not through-checked, life starts getting very messy.
<b> This would be the case whether the flight involved different terminals or the same terminal. And it is the standard process for international to international transfers throughout the civilised world.</b>
As so often happens, the United States almost always has an exceptionally bureaucratic and passenger-unfriendly procedure for a situation everyone else handles straightforwardly. With a couple of minor exceptions, a passenger with the misfortune to make an international to international transfer in the home of the oppressed has to go through both US Immigration and Customs.
In France, however - as in all other developed nations - passengers from outside Schengen transferring to another non-Schengen destination just go straight to their next departure gate.
Mar 24th, 2015, 12:57 AM
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hetismij2, tom_mn said "so even with the time change" and he's right. If they leave Dublin at 6:15am, call it 7:15am with the time difference, they should be in CDG by 8:45am French time at the latest.
That gives an hour and three quarters before the SLC flight, which should be enough, especially with an airside flight connection. Even allowing for 8:45am becoming 9:00am by the time they disembark, it should still be enough.
That gives an hour and three quarters before the SLC flight, which should be enough, especially with an airside flight connection. Even allowing for 8:45am becoming 9:00am by the time they disembark, it should still be enough.
Mar 24th, 2015, 09:26 AM
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There will be no immigration since the OP will transit airsde - never actually entering France (so Schengen has nothing to do with it).
BUT, even if all one tickets (and I assume it is) if you don't make the flight for some reason (late departure from Dublin, delay getting a jetway, being seated at the back of the plane, not moving fast enough to the next gate, etc) the airline is required to put you on the next plane to your destination on which they have an open seat. This may be later the same day, but flights might be full and it might end up being the next day.
I would check all of the flights out of CDG - not just to your home airport but other US airports where you might have to connect - so IF you miss the scheduled flight you can tell them which flights they should look at.
BUT, even if all one tickets (and I assume it is) if you don't make the flight for some reason (late departure from Dublin, delay getting a jetway, being seated at the back of the plane, not moving fast enough to the next gate, etc) the airline is required to put you on the next plane to your destination on which they have an open seat. This may be later the same day, but flights might be full and it might end up being the next day.
I would check all of the flights out of CDG - not just to your home airport but other US airports where you might have to connect - so IF you miss the scheduled flight you can tell them which flights they should look at.
Mar 24th, 2015, 12:17 PM
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There should be no problem with this transit, and since it is the airline that set it up, you should almost hope that there <b>is</b> a problem, since the airline would be responsible for rerouting you if necessary and probably upgrading you for the inconvenience.
Mar 24th, 2015, 02:20 PM
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I just checked the Delta flight. It's an unusual routing for flights back to the US from Dublin, but it's the only direct flight they have going to Salt Lake City.
If the OP will be clearing US Customs in Dublin before catching the flight CDG, she needs to check with Delta to see what time she has to be at the airport to clear Customs.
The last time we where flying home from Dublin, it was a bit confusing since they had moved US Customs to an area away from the main terminal waiting area.
If the OP will be clearing US Customs in Dublin before catching the flight CDG, she needs to check with Delta to see what time she has to be at the airport to clear Customs.
The last time we where flying home from Dublin, it was a bit confusing since they had moved US Customs to an area away from the main terminal waiting area.
