Where to propose in Europe?
Dec 16th, 2016, 11:38 AM
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Not my thing, but I am frankly, old-er. Won't even say where I got engaged.
Seems like many young people in the US today do make a big production of getting engaged, and they all want to capture it in pictures or video, so you have to do what you know your girl friend would like. It will be cold, so hard to depend on good weather. Some places, I would be afraid of dropping the ring. Are you staying at any really lovely hotels with beautiful views? Even if too cold to be on a balcony, standing at the window looking out at snow or having a nice dinner in front of the window, looking out, would be nice. Not over the top spectacular, but romantic and with time to savor the moment.
You could have the ring beautifully packaged and present it to her on a silver tray, sure room service could provide that and flowers.
In cold weather, especially, Venice is too far for a day trip. If you can stay a couple of nights in Venice, that would be lovely, and a nice place to propose - in your hotel room with a nice view of a canal. We stayed at a hotel with windows overlooking a little campo and the Grand Canal. With shutters open, it was fun to play Romeo and Juliet with my husband going down and calling up. OK, kind of silly, but romantic to me, and not silly at all if you hold up a ring box when she looks out.
Seems like many young people in the US today do make a big production of getting engaged, and they all want to capture it in pictures or video, so you have to do what you know your girl friend would like. It will be cold, so hard to depend on good weather. Some places, I would be afraid of dropping the ring. Are you staying at any really lovely hotels with beautiful views? Even if too cold to be on a balcony, standing at the window looking out at snow or having a nice dinner in front of the window, looking out, would be nice. Not over the top spectacular, but romantic and with time to savor the moment.
You could have the ring beautifully packaged and present it to her on a silver tray, sure room service could provide that and flowers.
In cold weather, especially, Venice is too far for a day trip. If you can stay a couple of nights in Venice, that would be lovely, and a nice place to propose - in your hotel room with a nice view of a canal. We stayed at a hotel with windows overlooking a little campo and the Grand Canal. With shutters open, it was fun to play Romeo and Juliet with my husband going down and calling up. OK, kind of silly, but romantic to me, and not silly at all if you hold up a ring box when she looks out.
Dec 16th, 2016, 12:18 PM
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>>What if she refuses?<<
That's why he's considering the roof of the Duomo.>
who will end up over the edge - him or her with a refusal?
How about proposing at Juliet's Balcony in Verona?
And why is it tradition for the man to propose- why can't women propose?
Why is this male chauvinistic tradition being perpetrated today?
Someone has to be first to suggest marriage I guess but why the man - if he never proposes the girl is left hanging.
That's why he's considering the roof of the Duomo.>
who will end up over the edge - him or her with a refusal?
How about proposing at Juliet's Balcony in Verona?
And why is it tradition for the man to propose- why can't women propose?
Why is this male chauvinistic tradition being perpetrated today?
Someone has to be first to suggest marriage I guess but why the man - if he never proposes the girl is left hanging.
Dec 16th, 2016, 12:39 PM
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Again why should a woman be put on the spot by an out of the blood proposal, assumingly with an expensive ring ready, in a special setting - putting huge pressure on her to say yes?
And again why can't a woman or any partner do it- put the man on the spot?
Such a decision IMO should be done by sitting down together and discussing marriage as a mutual proposal
when a man proposes the woman tells everyone "Oh John proposed to me last night on the roof of the Milan Duomo and I said yes"
can you see the reaction to any man who would say to his family and friends "Jill proposed to me last night; eyebrows would be raised and his manhood called into question.
So I suggest the OP find yes a romantic setting and then discuss marriage and if both then break into joy - a great way to start a marriage.
And again why can't a woman or any partner do it- put the man on the spot?
Such a decision IMO should be done by sitting down together and discussing marriage as a mutual proposal
when a man proposes the woman tells everyone "Oh John proposed to me last night on the roof of the Milan Duomo and I said yes"
can you see the reaction to any man who would say to his family and friends "Jill proposed to me last night; eyebrows would be raised and his manhood called into question.
So I suggest the OP find yes a romantic setting and then discuss marriage and if both then break into joy - a great way to start a marriage.
Dec 16th, 2016, 02:36 PM
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Some good points, PalenQ.
My husband and I talked a number of times about getting married, finally decided and actually set a date, then went together and I picked out my rings. To this day, it is nice remembering being in the store and trying different rings.
Can't imagine anyone proposing without being quite sure of the answer, but have seen videos of women running away when the proposal was done at a big public event like at a ball game. If I were this young man, I would probably propose before the trip, so it would be a celebration trip.
My husband and I talked a number of times about getting married, finally decided and actually set a date, then went together and I picked out my rings. To this day, it is nice remembering being in the store and trying different rings.
Can't imagine anyone proposing without being quite sure of the answer, but have seen videos of women running away when the proposal was done at a big public event like at a ball game. If I were this young man, I would probably propose before the trip, so it would be a celebration trip.
Dec 16th, 2016, 02:44 PM
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https://www.bustle.com/articles/4676...etting-engaged
I found it very interesting that an unromantic proposal, poor choice of ring, etc. were top causes for rejected proposals.
Guess old fashioned, simple discussions and decisions are a no-go today.
I found it very interesting that an unromantic proposal, poor choice of ring, etc. were top causes for rejected proposals.
Guess old fashioned, simple discussions and decisions are a no-go today.
Dec 16th, 2016, 04:17 PM
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I would assume or hope the OP has discussed getting married with his fiancee and not popping it out of the blue.
Sassafrass and her future husband are the perfect example of what I think should be done together not unilaterally.
If OP is not 100% positive the fiancee wants it it would be cruel IMO to her to do so on such a trip- and hoping that a romantic setting may persuade her is even worse.
Again I assume OP and fiancee have discussed this together and she is waiting for a presumptive proposal and then in a neat setting - if not it's a bad plan.
Sassafrass and her future husband are the perfect example of what I think should be done together not unilaterally.
If OP is not 100% positive the fiancee wants it it would be cruel IMO to her to do so on such a trip- and hoping that a romantic setting may persuade her is even worse.
Again I assume OP and fiancee have discussed this together and she is waiting for a presumptive proposal and then in a neat setting - if not it's a bad plan.
Dec 16th, 2016, 05:31 PM
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Agree that the marriage has to have been discussed in detail - so you're both SURE - before the actual proposal. And I can;t imagine someone presenting me with a ring I had never seen.
In fact, DH proposed to me at a very romantic moment - in bed in a wonderful suite with our balcony looking out the Bay of Naples - with champagne and choc strawberries for before and after. But we had been living together for several years and had picked the ring out together a couple of weeks earlier - had it specially made (I had to control him, he wanted a stone too big. I like substantial but NOT ostentatious).
If you haven;t had all of the discussions around marriage and all it entails - it's way too early to propose. Or you will likely end up as half of those whose marriage doesn't make it. (I always think they are the people with the proposal in skywriting but who never talked about how many kids they wanted or if she would continue her career, where they wanted to live, and a million other more intimate issues.)
In fact, DH proposed to me at a very romantic moment - in bed in a wonderful suite with our balcony looking out the Bay of Naples - with champagne and choc strawberries for before and after. But we had been living together for several years and had picked the ring out together a couple of weeks earlier - had it specially made (I had to control him, he wanted a stone too big. I like substantial but NOT ostentatious).
If you haven;t had all of the discussions around marriage and all it entails - it's way too early to propose. Or you will likely end up as half of those whose marriage doesn't make it. (I always think they are the people with the proposal in skywriting but who never talked about how many kids they wanted or if she would continue her career, where they wanted to live, and a million other more intimate issues.)
Dec 16th, 2016, 07:53 PM
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I do not know when in February you are going, but if its late in the month you could do it in Venice sometime during Carnivale.
http://www.carnevale.venezia.it/en/
Even though the city will be busy, there are times, and places to get away. It would be memorable for sure.
It does not take 4 hours to get there from Milan but I would spend the night regardless.
http://www.carnevale.venezia.it/en/
Even though the city will be busy, there are times, and places to get away. It would be memorable for sure.
It does not take 4 hours to get there from Milan but I would spend the night regardless.
Dec 16th, 2016, 11:41 PM
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Dec 17th, 2016, 02:42 AM
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I cannot imagine a "scene", especially a rigged one, for a proposal. And I absolutely cannot imagine a photographer on board for such an intimate moment. My DH just looked at me sideways one morning after we crawled out of bed and were sipping a coffee and said "Let's get married and have a party." So we did.We got married on the street in front of our apartment in DC. The police halted the traffic for a half-hour, our gay friend who worked for the city government in DC said the vows and signed the papers, we all retired to the bar/café across the street, and we had a ball.
Then we got married again here in France, which was a hoot. We are so married in so many places it's a blizzard of paperwork.
We had a lot of fun picking out our rings. They are made of prehistoric woolly mammoth tusk. That has a certain resonance with us that most other people would not appreciate, I think, but we live in the land of prehistory and feel its presence every day and especially every night. Besides, I hate diamonds and am not a jewel freak - I'm a cheap date and don't like Champagne, either.
Then we got married again here in France, which was a hoot. We are so married in so many places it's a blizzard of paperwork.
We had a lot of fun picking out our rings. They are made of prehistoric woolly mammoth tusk. That has a certain resonance with us that most other people would not appreciate, I think, but we live in the land of prehistory and feel its presence every day and especially every night. Besides, I hate diamonds and am not a jewel freak - I'm a cheap date and don't like Champagne, either.
Dec 17th, 2016, 03:26 AM
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KJA - I have a friend who, after some reflection, dropped the guy but kept the ring! Can you imagine anyone doing that? That should be against the law.
I remember the first time I proposed. I just pulled out the piece of paper and read the words my mother had written for me.
I remember the first time I proposed. I just pulled out the piece of paper and read the words my mother had written for me.
Dec 17th, 2016, 06:07 AM
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Only the OP will know what his intended fiancé's preferences are for the actual proposal...the times they are a-changin...get on Pinterest if you're curious and look for "proposal pictures"...everything from kid's birthday parties to proposals have become a production. There are many who have high expectations of their significant other when it comes to this.
To each their own. As for mine, he proposed on a quiet hike in Colorado with no one around, and it was perfect. He carried the ring around in his pocket for a few days while the box dug into his leg just waiting for the right moment. OP, I trust that you know what your intended really wants out of a proposal. Don't overthink it too much. Wait for the right moment. Plan a trip that seems right for you both, including those places that you would both really enjoy. If that includes Venice or Lake Como or whatever, just go there like you would on a normal trip. I would personally recommend you drop scheduling a "proposal" photographer, that way you can propose at the moment that feels right. But that's me. If you feel like you need a photographer to capture all of this, why don't you schedule one for the very end of your trip after you've proposed? It could be your engagement photo session instead, which would still give you very memorable photos that you both would enjoy. And then the pressure is off and will allow your moment to be much more private and natural.
To each their own. As for mine, he proposed on a quiet hike in Colorado with no one around, and it was perfect. He carried the ring around in his pocket for a few days while the box dug into his leg just waiting for the right moment. OP, I trust that you know what your intended really wants out of a proposal. Don't overthink it too much. Wait for the right moment. Plan a trip that seems right for you both, including those places that you would both really enjoy. If that includes Venice or Lake Como or whatever, just go there like you would on a normal trip. I would personally recommend you drop scheduling a "proposal" photographer, that way you can propose at the moment that feels right. But that's me. If you feel like you need a photographer to capture all of this, why don't you schedule one for the very end of your trip after you've proposed? It could be your engagement photo session instead, which would still give you very memorable photos that you both would enjoy. And then the pressure is off and will allow your moment to be much more private and natural.
Dec 17th, 2016, 06:24 AM
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Actually I proposed in a restaurant according to my wife. But it was a done deal already.
I have no recollection. Shame.>
Ah get plastered and you have to live with the aftermaths, literally, for the rest of your life or so far anyway.
I have no recollection. Shame.>
Ah get plastered and you have to live with the aftermaths, literally, for the rest of your life or so far anyway.
Dec 17th, 2016, 06:57 AM
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;-)
You got that one straight PQ but she was the one who needed to get drunk to say yes.
She is the one who is nice beautiful and intelligent.
I am the rude and rough one.
But I make great children. So she kept me.
You got that one straight PQ but she was the one who needed to get drunk to say yes.
She is the one who is nice beautiful and intelligent.
I am the rude and rough one.
But I make great children. So she kept me.
Dec 17th, 2016, 08:00 AM
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>>It does not take 4 hours to get there from Milan . . .<<
It does when you factor in getting from hotel to station and from the station to say St Mark's - and the same in reverse.
>> . . . but I would spend the night regardless.<<
Exactly
It does when you factor in getting from hotel to station and from the station to say St Mark's - and the same in reverse.
>> . . . but I would spend the night regardless.<<
Exactly
Dec 17th, 2016, 12:00 PM
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Milan to Venice faster trains take about 2.5 hours but yes to a cherished proposal site may take another hour -longer if you as many get lost.
OP has not said ho long he or they have -just one day? Coming from where? Never came back to respond?
What do you think OP?
OP has not said ho long he or they have -just one day? Coming from where? Never came back to respond?
What do you think OP?
