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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 01:31 PM
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Where to go when going alone?

The recently topped thread, "do you vant to be alone" about solo traveling has me thinking. I've been to Europe 5 times in the past 4 years but always with others (husband, friend, whole family, teenage daughter). Now, partly due to circumstances, but partly because I'd like to try it, I'm thinking of next summer doing a two week trip alone. I'm sure I'd be comfortable in London (or anywhere in England) or Paris, but those are the two places I've been the most (3 times to each) and I'd really like to try somewhere different. But I'm concerned about both language barriers and ease of finding my way around. Where have people (especially women) gone and felt are good places to go solo for the first time? I've done more car rentals than train travel but for a solo trip would probably want to stick to trains, and I do like to move around quite a bit, rather than stay in one place the whole time. Any suggeestions?
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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 02:16 PM
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My daughter, when she was 25, spent the summer alone (sort of; she was part of an opera company) in Lucca, Otaly, and after the opera was over, stayed another week there, visiting Cinque Terre several times, and enjoyed it very much.

She especially like the peace of being alone after the performance season was over and she could relax.

I've been alone (man) in Amsterdam, Dusseldorf, Paris, and London, and prefer the latter two, just because they are more intereting cities.

Perhaps your best bet would be to use London or Paris (or both) as a home base, and then take one day or two-three day trips from each of them.

I have two friends, sistes, women in ther 50s, who travel a fair bit on business. When one sister had to go to a convention in Switzerland, the otehr joined her after the convention, and instead of organizing their own trip, as they've done on busienss many times, they threw themselves on the mercy of a bus tour operator, and loved it.

No thinking, no planning, just enjoying, and they saw a lot of the country. If you were to pick the right tour (which ain't all that easy) you'd have decent company, lots to see, and no worries.

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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 02:57 PM
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I would honestly pick THE place you've ALWAYS wanted to see that ALSO seems like it would have the absolutely worst "language barriers" and that seems as if it would be impossible to find your way around.

Then, I would research it and then DO it.
The amount of pleasure AND the self-confidence building you'll get out of this success will be invaluable.

Otherwise, stick to where everyone else has gone, and "felt comfortable" etc., etc.,..and end up being not yourself, but like everybody else! This is the chance you've been waiting for...don't blow it by being too cautious.
 
Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 03:05 PM
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I've only been to London & Paris alone so I guess I'm not much help I find London alone great. There's so much to see & do and in the evening theater. My biggest problem traveling alone is what to do at night. London theater solves the problem. York is some place I've never been & people on this board like it a lot. I think cities are easier alone because of cabs & public transport.

Although I love Paris,, I found it lonely on my own. Perhaps because to me it's a very romantic place (although I've been with a girlfriend & thought that was great!).

I think Nice & the cote d'azure would be fine alone. Plenty of public transport & lots to see & do. I also think Venice is an easy city to manage but you might miss not being able to share the magic. I've never been, but Ireland sounds very friendly.
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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 03:10 PM
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PS, if you have a particular interest that your husband doesn't share (ie gardening, art, music) you might consider a tour that concentrates on that.
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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Venice (4 nights), Florence (4 nights),
Orvieto (1 night) and Rome (5 nights).

Easy to use the train. Open-Jaw ticket.

Do daytrips from Florence to Sienna and Lucca.
 
Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 03:25 PM
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Scandinavia is very easy for solo female English speakers.
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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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I've been lots of places alone and never felt particularly uncomfortable; the Netherlands, Italy, London, Paris, Lyon, Switzerland, Croatia and Slovenia. One advantage of traveling alone in Europe (particularly Switzerland) is that the hotels often cost about half what they do for two. Go where you have been wanting to go and don't worry about being solo.
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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 04:47 PM
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If you're big concern about being alone is safety, Switzerland and the Scandinavian countries have certainly felt the safest to me...mostly becauise they are incredibly rich countris so there aren't any destitute beggars or "young toughs" to muck up your experiences.

In Switzerland, much of the "sightseeing" is just hiking in the Alps or skiing, depending on the season, and those are perfect activities for a solitary traveler yet also offer you the opportunity to meet lots of people, so you won't be alone if you don't want to.
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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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I often travel alone. I've found Italy easiest. In general, I'd rather not travel alone where I do not know the local language, but I did travel alone a little bit in Greece and enjoyed it. However, in Greece I did not go to remote places where there are few foreign visitors, as I occasionally do in Italy.
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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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I, too, have traveled alone, mainly for business. As a woman I have had the problem of what to do in the evening. It's OK if there are movies, theatre, or concerts, but if not...bring a good book. In the US one can always shop the malls..it's boring, but it is something to do. In Europe, most of the shops close early, so shopping is out. With a group, the evening problem is solved. So I would recommend joining a group trip or go to England. There are lots of places to go in England, the trains are excellent, and there are malls that are open in the evening.
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Old Oct 15th, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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I tried going to/through Italy 3 times alone, but couldn't stay alone for very long!

I've been to a huge chunk of Europe alone. Ireland is fantastic for the solo female traveler, in my opinion, because it's so easy to make friends if you can stir up the guts to go into a pub alone.

Italy would get my vote, although it was not my favorite country. People are pretty friendly; they are used to tourists so language isn't that much of a problem in tourist areas, (and if they can't speak English, it's amazing how much you can communicate with gestures!) There's plenty to do, see, and eat there. It's pretty hard to get bored in Italy, and there is a lot to see in one country, so you can hop around on a train all over the place if you get bored.
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Old Oct 16th, 2003 | 03:00 AM
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Thanks for all the replys. It's sounding like Italy might be good for me. I have been there only once for two weeks so obviously there's plenty more to see. I really wanted to go somewhere besides France and England, for though I really love them, there is so much in Europe that it seems foolish to keep going back to the same two countries until I've seen more of the rest of it.

I was kind of thinking about Prague, Vienna, Venice and Florence. Anyone done Prague alone? Can you get by with just English and whatever phrases you can get from a guide book? Also, is it possible to do any of the Italian Lakes region without a car? Thanks again.
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Old Oct 16th, 2003 | 03:25 AM
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I highly recommend Vienna as a destination for a woman traveling alone. I have always felt very safe walking around central Vienna alone after dark. Plus, there are many things to see. My command of German is modest at best, but I've never had any problems. It's also a city where you will see many women alone at cafes, etc.
Vienna is a good base for doing side trips to Prague (either alone or on an organized day trip) or Salzburg (3.5 hours by train each way; so it's a long day, but still doable).
Switzerland is also a good place for a solo women. For example, you could be based in Basel (excellent museums, good restaurants, great shopping, charming old town) and do a variety of day trips--Luzern, Thun, Bern, Zurich--all reached by train in 1 to 2 hours. It might be nice to be based in a smaller city as a change (since you have already visited two large European capitals).
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Old Oct 16th, 2003 | 03:40 AM
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You could do Prague, Vienna, and Venice in 14 days and travel by train without a car. You would also have time for a few daytrips as well.

Do an open jaw ticket. The Vienna to Venice leg is long (7 hours), but has some great mountain and lake views.
 
Old Oct 16th, 2003 | 06:01 AM
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On the Italy forum, Ira posted an amazing journal of his trip with his wife. I don't know what the future brings but, at the moment, I am alone.
His journal made it clear to me that I could do it too! Apparently, they got around beautifully on public transport...safe and sound. AND they got to see an awful lot of great "stuff"! Take a look for that post. With more and more women in the working world travelling and more and more women going along just "cause we can", it is possibly getting safer and safer and more "open" attitudes...like dining alone, etc.
 
Old Oct 16th, 2003 | 12:48 PM
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I'm so glad to hear some of you think Prague, Vienna and Venice might be a sensible trip since for some reason that combination appeals to me.

Degas - thanks for the info that the Vienna Venice train ride has great scenery. The length of the ride was one of the things I was concerned about, but if the scenery is great that would help. So does a day train make more sense than an overnight?

BTilke - I'm glad to hear that Vienna is a comfortable place for a single female.

susancoleman - I think we have something in common - aren't you the other person (besides me) who keeps recommending the Hotel St Andre des Arts in Paris? Any suggestions for places of that caliber in Prague or Vienna?

Anyone know of any good websites for booking accomodations in Prague or Vienna? I know of many for London, Paris and Italy, but haven't found too many for Prague or Vienna? I'm pretty much a two star kind of person.
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Old Oct 16th, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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Isabel, I also did the Prague, Vienna and Venice thing (except I stopped by Florence, then backtracked to Venice). It's totally great to do alone in my opinion. Prague is amazing, and definitely in the top 3 of the large cities I visited in Europe. In fact, Vienna was anticlimactic to me after Prague (seemed too expensive when it really wasn't terrible), but many people love Vienna, and you will have a great chance to decide for yourself.

In Prague I can recommend the Betlem Club. Great location near the Charles Bridge and in the middle of everything. Not that expensive too, but nothing fancy either. Decent breakfast is included. There are lots of recs for Prague hotels here that come up easily in a search. You can book directly with the hotels.

In Vienna I stayed at the Hotel Drei Kronen. It was nice, clean, and not far from the "ring". The breakfast here was pretty good.

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Old Oct 16th, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Isabel, that sounds like a lovely trip! I've always particularly enjoyed being alone in Vienna, but I do recommend you stay "within the Ring" -- that way you can walk out comfortably at night. Strolling through the Stephensplatz and down Kartnerstrasse is a great evening activity.

The Konig von Ungarian is a wonderful, family-like hotel, right behind St. Stephens Cathedral -- but if you find it too pricey, I'm sure there are others within the Ring that you'd like.

Have fun!
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Old Oct 18th, 2003 | 08:23 AM
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The hardest part of traveling alone for me is dining by myself in a really great restaurant. I'm going to Paris next month for the first time, and would love to have a few great, luxurious meals. Does anyone have any suggestions for restaurants where I might feel welcome dining alone? Thanks, Dan
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