Undiscovered Places in Paris
Feb 10th, 2016, 03:40 PM
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You might look at some of the less popular and less crowded places. I love St Denis which is the burial place of French Kings and away from central Paris. Musee Marmottan is in a beautiful, more residential area of Paris and is lovely. If you enjoy Impressionistic art, it has a great Monet collection. L'Orangerie houses huge Monet canvases and is far less crowded than the Louvre and D'Orsay.
I love Paris and I hope you enjoy your trip!
I love Paris and I hope you enjoy your trip!
Feb 10th, 2016, 04:22 PM
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So many of these threads turn into bitch sessions. What must newcomers think of us? I sort of care because I don't want Fodor's to shut it all down.
You don't mention how long you are going to be in Paris. See what you want, it's your trip. I've been to Paris more times than I remember and I still haven't seen all the "biggies" or at least not since my first trip at age 20.
Passy is an interesting area with a pretty shopping street where you'll see lots of beautifully dressed Parisiens. Little streets behind the Blvd Haussmann and over near the Bourse serve great mid-day meals to immaculate businessmen and women but am not sure this would interest someone your age. The food can be outstanding and reasonable, often in the 18-20€ range for three courses.
Not sure why 18€ menus should be avoided, as someone mentioned. The street food is good, crêpes, falafal, etc. Just read that the French are eliminating lots of circumflex so I may be spelling crêpes wrong.
The restored houses of authors and artists are all around Paris, Victor Hugo's in the Place des Voges, Delacroix's in a tiny square off Blvd St Germain. The smaller street off Blvd St Germain have smaller boutiques, pricey, however.
You don't mention how long you are going to be in Paris. See what you want, it's your trip. I've been to Paris more times than I remember and I still haven't seen all the "biggies" or at least not since my first trip at age 20.
Passy is an interesting area with a pretty shopping street where you'll see lots of beautifully dressed Parisiens. Little streets behind the Blvd Haussmann and over near the Bourse serve great mid-day meals to immaculate businessmen and women but am not sure this would interest someone your age. The food can be outstanding and reasonable, often in the 18-20€ range for three courses.
Not sure why 18€ menus should be avoided, as someone mentioned. The street food is good, crêpes, falafal, etc. Just read that the French are eliminating lots of circumflex so I may be spelling crêpes wrong.
The restored houses of authors and artists are all around Paris, Victor Hugo's in the Place des Voges, Delacroix's in a tiny square off Blvd St Germain. The smaller street off Blvd St Germain have smaller boutiques, pricey, however.
Feb 10th, 2016, 04:53 PM
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Please go to Musee Marmottan.
We love the 14th. The cemetery there is very interesting though I never found Samuel Beckett's grave. Montparnasse, no crowds like some of the others.
Where are you staying?
We love the 14th. The cemetery there is very interesting though I never found Samuel Beckett's grave. Montparnasse, no crowds like some of the others.
Where are you staying?
Feb 10th, 2016, 06:45 PM
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Shops for teens:
Jennyfer near Gare de Nord.
Mango on Rue Rivoli.
You may also like Chantal Thomass on Rue Saint-Honorè. Racy. But you would probably like that.
$$$$ Very Expensive: Isabel Marant on Rue Jacob.
Amin Kader in the Rue de la Paix. The Countess de Billy shops here.
Colette in the Rue Saint-Honorè.
And, of course, there is Chanel on the Rue Cambon.
Thin
Jennyfer near Gare de Nord.
Mango on Rue Rivoli.
You may also like Chantal Thomass on Rue Saint-Honorè. Racy. But you would probably like that.
$$$$ Very Expensive: Isabel Marant on Rue Jacob.
Amin Kader in the Rue de la Paix. The Countess de Billy shops here.
Colette in the Rue Saint-Honorè.
And, of course, there is Chanel on the Rue Cambon.
Thin
Feb 11th, 2016, 07:57 AM
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It is simply not true that because a place is mentioned in a book then "by definition" it is undiscovered.
If one really wants to get into definitions, then try the defination of "intelligent" -- which means "to read between the lines" -- and give yourself a stretch and try to come to an intelligent reading of the OP's request.
Once again, the real problem is that the OP identified herself as female and young in her original post, and she attracted the usual crew of resent-the-adventurous-young-females harpies to lecture and slap her around and spit.
Had she simply shown up and said she was hoping to someone could guide her to old Fodor's threads about Paris by a wise old rich lady named Gracejoan who apparently spent months at a time in Paris doing absolutely nothing of cultural interest except shopping and going to restaurants, Fodorite-sisters in kind would have happily helped out with advice about immersing oneself in trivia in Paris and where to buy jars of jam with little bows on them.
If one really wants to get into definitions, then try the defination of "intelligent" -- which means "to read between the lines" -- and give yourself a stretch and try to come to an intelligent reading of the OP's request.
Once again, the real problem is that the OP identified herself as female and young in her original post, and she attracted the usual crew of resent-the-adventurous-young-females harpies to lecture and slap her around and spit.
Had she simply shown up and said she was hoping to someone could guide her to old Fodor's threads about Paris by a wise old rich lady named Gracejoan who apparently spent months at a time in Paris doing absolutely nothing of cultural interest except shopping and going to restaurants, Fodorite-sisters in kind would have happily helped out with advice about immersing oneself in trivia in Paris and where to buy jars of jam with little bows on them.
Feb 11th, 2016, 08:24 AM
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Also I think it is just sad that some of the loudest mouths on Fodor's have absolutely no feeling for a traveler's desire to see how Europeans or Parisians live and discover what local customs are.
I've read more than one trip report of people visiting Italy who had occasion to go to an Italian post office, or an Italian pharmacy, or look for some "mundane" necessity, and this experience was really very thought-provoking to them and was more of a "travel" experience than looking at the colosseum.
Why wouldn't somebody want to go to Paris and see local Parisian life? And even if they thought their American attitudes and habits were shared the world over, why would they go out of their way to be nasty to a young person embarking on their own discoveries of the world they actually live in?
Maybe other people travel for the joy of experiencing the variety of the world and to be surprised -- and indeed find both -- rather than looking to constantly confirm what they think they already know with certainty.
More evidence it is not the old who are wise, but the young and innocent.
I've read more than one trip report of people visiting Italy who had occasion to go to an Italian post office, or an Italian pharmacy, or look for some "mundane" necessity, and this experience was really very thought-provoking to them and was more of a "travel" experience than looking at the colosseum.
Why wouldn't somebody want to go to Paris and see local Parisian life? And even if they thought their American attitudes and habits were shared the world over, why would they go out of their way to be nasty to a young person embarking on their own discoveries of the world they actually live in?
Maybe other people travel for the joy of experiencing the variety of the world and to be surprised -- and indeed find both -- rather than looking to constantly confirm what they think they already know with certainty.
More evidence it is not the old who are wise, but the young and innocent.
Feb 11th, 2016, 11:49 AM
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I agree 100% with sandralist - I always have sought out ordinary cafes and street markets, etc on my travels - places with few tourists and locals bellying up to the bar - in Paris just go into any outlying area in central Paris and you will find a slew of these local places - you do not need to ask for recommendations as there are so so many.
Even going to Mass in an ordinary church in France lets you mingle with the locals - though in this case nearly all older folks IME as church-going among French in general is in the single digits % wise I hear.
Even going to Mass in an ordinary church in France lets you mingle with the locals - though in this case nearly all older folks IME as church-going among French in general is in the single digits % wise I hear.
Feb 11th, 2016, 12:19 PM
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Last chance to see rue Dénoyez in Belleville: http://anyportinastorm.proboards.com...z-75020?page=1
Feb 11th, 2016, 12:28 PM
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sandralist on Feb 11, 16 at 12:24pm
I always hit up Boots or a pharmacy in other countries. I don't take much because I love to try the sample sizes. I bought the washcloth mitts for many of my gf's last visit and filled them with little odds and ends for gifts. Germany has some of the best skin products and the makeup from France is fabulous. I can't stay out of cooking stores. I buy my niece tart pans and other baking items for their restaurant.
I almost forgot you have to visit here:
https://shakespeareandcompany.com/
Buy a book and have them stamp it. I love their totes as well. Great little cafe also.
I always hit up Boots or a pharmacy in other countries. I don't take much because I love to try the sample sizes. I bought the washcloth mitts for many of my gf's last visit and filled them with little odds and ends for gifts. Germany has some of the best skin products and the makeup from France is fabulous. I can't stay out of cooking stores. I buy my niece tart pans and other baking items for their restaurant.
I almost forgot you have to visit here:
https://shakespeareandcompany.com/
Buy a book and have them stamp it. I love their totes as well. Great little cafe also.
Feb 11th, 2016, 12:35 PM
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I met a Parisian friend in the 20th this morning - near Porte de Montreuil. Our plans to do some research in some nearby archives changed and we instead decided to explore a little bit. My friend has lived in Paris her whole and I have been here less than a year - but she asked me if I had any suggestions - because I know a lot about Paris that she doesn't know.
We ended up on a nice walk through Village Charonne, and eventually ending up at Porte de Bagnolet. We stopped at 3 cafes along our way and I am certain that there was not a tourist in sight. It was a lovely and interesting walk in a part of Paris that few people visit.
We ended up on a nice walk through Village Charonne, and eventually ending up at Porte de Bagnolet. We stopped at 3 cafes along our way and I am certain that there was not a tourist in sight. It was a lovely and interesting walk in a part of Paris that few people visit.
Feb 11th, 2016, 12:48 PM
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I wonder why at least on poster seems determined to rain on the OPs parade?
I actually spend a lot of time in the 14th and while there are tourists, it's not like everyone I run into is American LOL!
There are some interesting shops in there too. One of my favorites just for the bizarre factor is a china outlet on General LeClerc (at least I think that's where it is) I always see interesting things there (not that I have ever had the urge to actually buy any of it!)
I actually spend a lot of time in the 14th and while there are tourists, it's not like everyone I run into is American LOL!
There are some interesting shops in there too. One of my favorites just for the bizarre factor is a china outlet on General LeClerc (at least I think that's where it is) I always see interesting things there (not that I have ever had the urge to actually buy any of it!)
Feb 12th, 2016, 07:36 AM
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Have a wonderful trip to Paris and to all the other places you noted, lisamariana. I'm saving this thread for my upcoming trip to Paris and have been compiling a list of places I've missed or that folks have mentioned. I'd love to read about your trip when you return!
Just ordered Undiscovered Paris--thanks Stu. And, have saved Adele link, thanks, MmePerdu.
Just ordered Undiscovered Paris--thanks Stu. And, have saved Adele link, thanks, MmePerdu.
