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Old Jul 6th, 2001 | 09:23 PM
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"unclean left hand"

Hesitate to bring this up, but .... I was waiting for a plane last week at the gate in an airport and struck up a conversation with a couple (probably in their fifties) who were just returning from a cruise and who were obviously still feeling friendly toward strangers....said they traveled several times a year and have been just about everywhere. I told them my husband was a bit nervous about his upcoming trip to India, and asked them how they enjoyed their trip there and immediately, they both began telling me that he should bring toilet paper with him to India...they said that they never saw any there, that Indians in India do not use it, it is not their custom (this couple has even visited very wealthy friends there and found that even they did not have toilet paper in their bathrooms...just a little sink and faucet next to the toilet (not a bidet) to wash their "unclean left hand" after using the toilet. (They said you can reach over and wash your hand while you are still seated on the toilet). I have never heard of this "unclean left hand" before...have any of you? Is it true? (believe me...this is not a troll post!) My husband is freaking!! <BR>
 
Old Jul 6th, 2001 | 09:27 PM
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It is probably true that there is a sink in the toilet area. In Japan the tops of the toilets have a little sink so that you can wash your hands then the water is used to flush, thus saving water. Don't know anything about the unclean left hand thing.
 
Old Jul 6th, 2001 | 10:02 PM
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In the Arab middle east you always offer things to people with the right hand as the left hand is used for (how do I put this) toilet functions. There is always a hose and faucet, (or in poorer areas a jug of water), next to the toilet for washing. Guess it's a similar situation in India.
 
Old Jul 6th, 2001 | 10:29 PM
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To the lawyers out there: Now we have a new way of looking at "unclean hands."
 
Old Jul 6th, 2001 | 11:03 PM
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As a British lawyer I'm intrigued-what are unclean hands in the States? <BR>On the point,I've not come across this problem in India despite several visits.The hotels and restaurants I've been to had toilet paper.A word of warning though,avoid the toilets in the Red Fort in Delhi,they rank(pardon the pun) as the worst ever. <BR>Perhaps a new thread topic?
 
Old Jul 6th, 2001 | 11:41 PM
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I had a sociology teacher who went to India and did not know of this custom....he went on a trip to India and, doing as the locals do, ate with his hands. However, being left-handed, he was eating with his left hand. All action around him STOPPED, everyone was looking at him like he was a freak. And THEN someone explained to him that you eat with your right, and you perform toilet functions with the left. Yes, it's true!
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 12:38 AM
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Yes, you only eat with your right hand. A friend of mine said it felt really stange having this poor left hand sort of feeling ashamed of itself. In Indian restaurants in places like Manchester or Bradford where the clientele is mainly from the sub continent, the loos have lavatory paper but also have a sort of jug with a long spout for washing afterwards.
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 07:07 AM
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Art
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Anyone ever figure out how to use the 3 sea shells in "demolition man"? <BR>
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 08:09 AM
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This being said, I loved my trip to India and found that there was toilet paper in most bathrooms.
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 08:22 AM
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In some higher priced hotels, there is an attendant on hand to clean the offorementioned area for a very reasonable fee. <BR>
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 09:08 AM
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&lt;&lt;In some higher priced hotels, there is an attendant on hand to clean the offorementioned area for a very reasonable fee&gt;&gt; <BR> <BR>ummmmmm....would that be known as a "buttler"?
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 09:12 AM
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More useless trivia: <BR>in Latin, the word for "right" (as in right hand) is "dexter", which also implies "correct or orthodox". <BR>The word for "left" is "sinister". <BR> <BR>Poor left handed souls must have realy been persecuted (actually they were forced to become righties). <BR>
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 09:54 AM
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This has got me very worried, i'm travelling to the middle east and india/pakistan and i'm left handed, <BR>What if I forget, and touch someone with my left hand? will I be arrested or something? <BR>These attendants that are available to wipe youe behind for you, can you refuse and do it yourself? <BR>
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 10:29 AM
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No, you must let the attendants wipe for you. You wouldn't want to deny them the occupational fulfillment for which they got into the personal care business in the first place, now would you? <BR>Don't be such an American prude. <BR>Just bend over and get buffed.
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 11:12 AM
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Not all americans are prudes, i'm not, but i definitely will not let someone else wipe me where the sun dont shine.
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 11:22 AM
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ohhh, but my dear sweet non-prudish lynn, in Italy the sun shines EVERYWHERE! <BR>Nothing is off limits here! <BR>Look me up when you're in Capri.
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 11:28 AM
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Thanks for the offer Luigi, <BR>I would love the chance for you and your fratelli in capri to clean me. <BR>Ciao bello
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 11:36 AM
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(From a specialist in cross-cultural studies.) <BR> <BR>Yes, in all of the Middle East, not just the *Arab* Middle East, the left hand is considered 'unclean' because it is used for 'toilet purposes.' <BR> <BR>It is washed afterward with water where water is available, and with sand where water is not available. But in spite of the fact it has been washed after being used, it is still considered unclean. <BR> <BR>Muhammad, the Prophet of Islam, is quoted as having said, "He who eats with his left hand eats with the Devil." <BR> <BR>So you should not eat with your left hand in any *Muslim* country. <BR> <BR>And not in India, nor the Far East. <BR> <BR>Also, you should not pass anything to another person with your left hand, including your credit card, money, or a tip. Use the right hand for this and for receiving your credit card or change back. <BR> <BR>If you are giving someone a gift in those parts of the world, it is best to use both hands, as the use of just the right hand conveys half-hearted or reluctant giving. <BR> <BR>And when entering a home, restaurant or - especially - a place of worship, the right foot should be the first one to touch the interior floor of the establishment. <BR> <BR>Another "foot thing" to be aware of is that in the Middle East, Subcontinent and Far East is that it is considered a grave insult to point the bottom of your shoe or foot toward another person. So the habit of Western men (mostly) of resting one ankle on a knee, with the bottom of the shoe pointing toward another person, should be avoided. <BR> <BR>But most people in these countries will realize you are a Westerner and will take this into account, so don't let it distract you too much. <BR> <BR> <BR>
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 11:36 AM
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Oh Blimey, <BR>I have just applied for a position in the new delhi hilton that wanted a personal care attendant with warm hands. <BR>I do not think I will be filling this position. <BR>A thousand opologies for the inconvenience.
 
Old Jul 7th, 2001 | 11:47 AM
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<BR> <BR>John has some good advice. For lefties, unless you can sign with your right hand, have your own pen handy for signatures so you don't have to return something which you used your left hand for. <BR> <BR>As he said, most places you will visit as a tourist will be very understanding if you do something counter-cultural. You may not be so fortunate with business contacts, especially if you need something from them. In either case, it usually pays to be sensitive to whatever culture you are in. <BR> <BR>Rich
 


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