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Old Jan 23rd, 2003, 11:19 AM
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traveling with friend recovering from surgery

I will be traveling to France next week with a friend who is recovering from heart surgery and probably won't be up for extended walks. We are spending the first three nights in a hotel on rue Cler in Paris. Any suggestions for those days or for the next 9. Should we rent a car or just visit places we can reach by metro or bus?
Old Jan 23rd, 2003, 11:51 AM
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Fortunately, there a quite a few sights, cafes and restaurants within easy walking distance of the rue Cler--Les Invalides, the Eiffel Tower, and possibly the Rodin Museum (if your friend can walk that far).
I highly recommend taking the bus over the metro if you can. Most of the metro stops involve a lot of walking up and down stairs. The #82 bus stops on the corner of rue du Champ de Mars and the Avenue Bosquet (very close to the rue Cler) and will take you over to the Right Bank to see the Arc de Triomphe. It's a nice ride; you'll see several interesting sights along the way. Study the bus routes--from the Ecole Militaire area you can get to most places in Paris by bus.
Don't forget that the American Hospital in Neuilly is fully staffed with English speaking specialists. They also take Blue Cross/Blue Shield.
It might be helpful for your friend to print out a sheet describing his/her condition and a list of medications she's taking and include the telephone numbers of her physicians. Have it laminated if possible (to protect it from damage) and carry it with you.
Remember to stop in a cafe whenever your friend feels tired. Keep one-third of your day for "down time" to rest and relax.
Have a great trip and I hope your friend has a wonderful time.
Old Jan 23rd, 2003, 12:54 PM
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What about one of those bus tours that drive you all around the city and narrate about the major sites? Haven't done it so can't give details but I saw them all over Paris.
Old Jan 23rd, 2003, 02:09 PM
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I believe "bus tour" has a good idea. Years ago on my first visit to Paris I took one (Cityrama, if my memory serves me)and it was enjoyable and very "stress-free". They have many options to choose from, both in sites and time duration.

Driving in Paris can cause ANYONE to have "une crise cardiac"! No car.

I would consider a taxi, too. I have never been ripped off by one yet and it would keep the superfluous walking down, delivering you right to the door.

I'd avoid the metro as during rush hour (heures de pointes)you're packed in like sardines (could his chest take getting squeezed up against yet) and some of the "correpondances" require a lot of walking/stairs.

Re: hotel. Does the hotel have an elevator, if not ask for a lower floor. Depending on healing of incisions he may want a firm (at least not the "roll into the middle" variety)matress and some extra support pillows for comfort.

I'd make sure I had extra medications and that the meds. list gave the scientific names, not the brand name as is frequently the case. I'd also have a copy of the most recent ekg tracing for comparison "just on the remote chance". If you have it, you won't need it.

Bravo for not letting this interfere with living life to the fullest! Have a great time!
Old Jan 23rd, 2003, 03:53 PM
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1. Definitely do not rent a car in Paris.
2. Avoid the metro--too many stairs to climb. Take buses and taxis.
3. If the two of you like Impressionist art, I would strongly recommend Musee d'Orsay. As museums go, this one would allow for a relaxed visit. Just take the elevator to the third level and strolled.
4. Both the Eiffel Tower and Arc de Triomph have elevators that will take you to the top.
5. The center of the city on Ile de la Cite would be fine for a casual walk to see some of the best of Paris--Notre Dame and Ste. Chapelle.
Old Jan 24th, 2003, 09:53 AM
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I believe that there is at least one bus tour company that has hop on and hop off service for the main tourist sites--tourist office on champs elysee is starting point. if your friend enjoys contemporary art, the galleries down from place michel make a fine stroll and most of them will have a chair available for a short sit. lots of bars for coffee or wine in area. as for further travels, you can book at lot of day trips by van with Paris as a center- Giverny, Chartres and the Loire Valley come to mind. Rue Cler is a fine base because of the large number of good restaurants and hotels in a compact area.
Old Jan 24th, 2003, 09:59 AM
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Wow I applaud your friend. I hope he/she has a good recovery. Have you thought about a wheelchair? That way your friend does not have to walk too much. We did that for our uncle and it worked out great. He was able to do more and not get too tired.
Old Jan 24th, 2003, 08:34 PM
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You didn't mention where you are flying from, but flying immediately after any surgery to one year after can be very dangerous due to blood clots from altitude and confinement for many hours in a plane. Do have the doctor approve the trip first. Then make sure your friend takes asprin daily or whatever anti clotting agent that is recommended.Walking every 30 minutes on the flight is recommended and upgrade to business class if possible-use mileage clubs.
How much climbing and how much rest is required is also necessary info from the doc. Paris requires YEARS of touring to see all, but the basics can be covered in a couple days with a little walking, taxis and planning. The Louvre, Eiffel Tour (maybe lunch or dinner at Jules Verne) expensive but worth it if the weather is clear. A trip on the bateaux mouche on the Seine,
a stroll to the Place Opera and a drive or easy walk to the Arc d'Triomphe is all manageable in a couple days strolling. Check the local maps. Subways have stairs and escalators and come in handy for longer jaunts.
My husband and I both had surgury this year (me, bone tumor in the leg and he had a stent in the heart artery) and we
followed doctors orders and saw Australia 3 months later and are still alive. Relax and enjoy, stress is what kills!
Bon Voyage and follow doctors' orders
Old Jan 25th, 2003, 08:29 PM
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Thanks for all the info. We leave Thursday and are looking forward to a wonderful and healthy trip!
Old Jan 25th, 2003, 08:56 PM
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There are half a dozen or more bus routes in the area, all with stops at or close to Place de l'Ecole Militaire. Go into the metro station there as ask for a bus map. You might also want to pick up a packet (carnet, pronounced "carnay") of ten tickets as you need them (you can share a packet). There are no bus transfers, so you need a new ticket for each bus.

Also handy is L'Opentour, also with a stop nearby. You can buy a two day pass. This has the closest stops to all the sights and attractions. See www.ratp.fr for a map and more information. (You can also download and print a nice regular bus map at that site.)
Old Jun 7th, 2003, 09:54 AM
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Kitin, would you mind elaborating on your uncle's experience using a wheelchair while touring Paris?
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We just came back from Paris and the Rue Cler area. We stayed at the Hotel Relias Bosquet..they had an elevator and very helpful front desk staff. They helped arrange a Yellow Shuttle from the airport to the Hotel, a private van tour and other tips re: Paris. Be careful re: the current strike situation and plan on buses not being available from day to day as well as lots of traffic...take extra money for cabs. From the Eiffel Tower (cab over)you can take Batobus boat for a nice relaxing scenic ride up and down the Seine during the day. Most of the walking is on flat level ground except the Metro which is not a good idea so if like most post cardiac patients the cariac rehab program includes walking you should have no problem....just reveiw in advance how far something is and then plan accordingly. You might also want to take a cell phone in case you want to talk with the MD at home.
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I seem to be touting the bus all the time but it is a great way to get around and NO STAIRS. It takes a bit of study but worth it.

Also, get a detailed discussion from his doctor so that if need be the physicians in Paris will know what is going on. And may it not be necesary.

There is another great museum for impressionistic art and all on the level to get there and elevators in the building - the Marmottan. Also, there is pleasant park to walk to thru to get there. The Picasso museum is easy to get to and in an interesting part of town with a nice cafe near by.
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Heads up! Gmama posted her request back in January for a trip leaving the week after she posted. If she's still around, maybe she could post her trip experience with her recovering friend.
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Oh rats! I should've previewed the reply above this one. Here goes again: Heads up! Gmama posted her request back in January for a trip on which she was leaving the week after she posted. If she's still around, maybe she could
post her trip experience.

There now. Maybe there aren't so many participles (or whatever) dangling.
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