transportation in venice

Jun 24th, 2006, 11:44 AM
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transportation in venice

We are booked on a 7-day cruise to the Greek Islands in the first week of Sept. this year, and are going to spend two days in Venice before boarding. How do we get from the airport to the hotel as directly and economically as possible? The private watertaxis are very expensive. $180.00 one way for two!!! Any way to beat that without 3-4 stops and prolonged walking with our luggage?
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Jun 24th, 2006, 12:01 PM
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The water taxi doesn;t operate per person - you can have 2 people or 8 - and the price is the same. And $180 sounds very high. Check with other threads here - people seemm to be paying more like $80 or so.

Are you buying this from a travel agent or other supplier who's taking a huge cut - rather than asuming negotiation with the pilot on the spot (gets you the best price).

As to how to get to your hotel - it depends on where it is. Have you looked at their website - or contacted them? Do they have their own pier? Are they near a vaporetto stop? Will they send a bellman to meet you to deal with the luggage?

There are other options - bus or land taxi to train station - but then you have to take the vaporetto from there.

I would map your hotel and contact them to get better info.
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Jun 24th, 2006, 12:41 PM
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nytraveler, thanks for your info. The $180 quote came from an agency. I have e-mailed the hotel directly and they only suggested a watertaxi. I have already mapped the hotel location. The hotel website suggests taking the shuttle boat from the airport to St. Mark's Square (travel time ca. one hour), but does not elaborate on how to get to the hotel from there. There is no mention of a bellman... This is only a 3-star hotel, but in terms of location and amenities perfectly adequate for this short stay. I would like to know about the 'how and where', and preferably arrange our transportation ahead of time, as I anticipate crowds during that week (Venice Filmfestival and traditional Gondola Parade). Another concern will be transportation upon departure (hotel to cruise pier). Another couple will join us in Venice for the cruise (arriving a day later), therefore we will be able to split the cost for the trip to the pier. Our cruise reservation agent has already arranged prepaid transportation from the pier to the airport upon our return. Cost; $30/person.
Any more thoughts or info are welcomed.
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Jun 24th, 2006, 12:53 PM
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Arranging transport ahead of time will cost a whole lot extra - since you're using a travel agent of some sort who will want a hefty profit.

You may be best off taking the bus to the train station and then taking a vaporetto to San Marco - but you will have to deal with your own luggage. And if you don;t have a good map of the area and the exact route to the hotel you could be walking a lot.

You could also get a water taxi there - which is much closer and would cost much less than from the airport. (And the WT from the airport doesnt take anywhere near an hour - they;re saying that to boost the cost.)
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Jun 24th, 2006, 12:54 PM
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I think that the max a watertaxi would cost you is 100euro travelgems. Would this be acceptable to you?

Regarding your hotel..doesn't their website show a map regarding their location?
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Jun 24th, 2006, 12:56 PM
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Does the Web site of your hotel have a map on it? That should let you see whether there are any or a few or many bridges between the hotel and the closest vaporetto stop.

If there are not too many, then I would take the ATVO express bus (blue one) from in front of the airport to Piazzale Roma in Venice. Piazzale Roma is flat, and there is a vaporetto stop. Take the No. 1 or No. 82 vaporetto to either Vallaresso or San Zaccharia stop, depending on the location of your hotel.

The Alilaguna shuttle boat takes an age, goes around the less attractive "back end" of Venice and, if I remember correctly, it doesn't even have a deck from which you can see Venice approaching.

On the other hand, the No. 1 and the No. 82 vaporettos take you along the Grand Canal for your first magnificent view of Venice's "main street"!

The price for a water taxi from the airport to Venice these days is about 80 or 90 Euro, so $180. is quite overpriced.

If you can give us the name of your hotel, we may be able to be more precise.
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Jun 24th, 2006, 01:06 PM
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Travelgems-if you say the hotel, or if the hotel gives a vaporetto stop, then perhaps we'll be able to give you directions on how to get there.

I would definitely take the Alilaguna watter shuttle to San Marco rather than pay the exorbitant rates of the water taxi. You are going to be there at the most exciting and probably the most crowded time in Venice: The Venice Film Festival starts Aug. 30 this year, and runs for around 10 days or so, but the Regatta Storia (historical regatta), one of Venice's biggest cultural events, is on September 3rd of this year, so besides the enormous crowds, there will likely be no vaporettos or any type of water taxi service running for the length of that event.

I too, plan on trying to be in Venice on September 3d, because I very much want to see the Regatta Storica, a spectacular event which commorates the welcome given to Catharine Coronaro, the Queen of Cyprus, after she renounced her throne for Venice. There is a procession of 16th century style boats down the Grand Canal, with the Bucintoro, the ornate boat representing La Serenissima, at the lead. After the procession, the rowing contests (always going on in Venice during the warmer months) begins. This I want to experience no matter the crowds.
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Jun 24th, 2006, 03:16 PM
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180e sounds outrageous. It should be about half that. I agree not to book in advance. Telling us where your hotel is will help provide best options.

I just posted info on this subject here
http://fodors.com/forums/threadselec...2&tid=34825382
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Jun 24th, 2006, 03:26 PM
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We just returned from Venice last week. We were charged 130 Euro (which we were able to split with another couple) to take us via watertaxi from our hotel to the dock by the airport plus the shuttle that drove us to the actual terminal. They originally quoted us 90 Euro, but that would not include the shuttle to the terminal. I think the shuttle was a good idea as I am not sure how else you would get from the terminal to the dock--it did not appear to be too far, however I would not want to do it lugging luggage etc. I would agree with the other posters regarding knowing the exact location of your hotel. The great part of the watertaxi is that it takes you straight to your hotel (if it has water entrance) and thus you don't have to try to figure out where to go once you get off the vaparetto--those streets in Venice are very confusing and it is very easy to get lost--again not a fun thing to do if you have lots of luggage. I would suggest trying to find someone to split the fee of the taxi. We were very lucky as we were able to split watertaxis charges with other people who happened to be going to the same places. Have a great time!
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Jun 24th, 2006, 03:29 PM
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40E to get from the terminal to the dock? That's an outrage. It is walkable. There used to be a free shuttle for this but I had read here it was discontinued. But 40e for that distance is just crazy.
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Jun 24th, 2006, 03:42 PM
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I agree it sounded crazy to me too, but the other couple that we were sharing the watertaxi with had alot of luggage after traveling for 3 weeks and thus we could either pay 90 Euros on our own or split the cost and pay 65 Euros by going with them. I did not see any free shuttle--though our flight was very early in the morning--we arrived at the airport when it opened at 5:00 AM, so if there is a shuttle maybe it just was not up and running. Personally I found the transportation costs to be quite staggering throughout Italy. Fortunately, we mostly walked and rarely took taxis, but on those occasions that we did take taxis (particularly in Rome) we found that even "official" taxis attempted to add unapproved surcharges etc. I think we only had one taxi ride where the meter was not already running when we got in.
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Jun 24th, 2006, 03:49 PM
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If you don't have too much luggage, it
can be a pleasant 10-15 minute walk from the Airport to the dock, or vice versa. Otherwise, you can just grab an airport taxi outside the airport to take you down to the boat dock.

The Venice Airport boat dock is the loading point both for private water taxis (motoscafi) and the Alilaguna water shuttle into Venice.

As I posted on the other thread there is a new water shuttle service: the Alilaguna Gold shuttle-which is a direct service line for Euro 25/pp-there are NO stops between the Airport and San Marco, and return. Much better alternative than the regular Alilaguna lines, which take 70 minutes and stop at the other islands before getting to San Marco.
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Jun 24th, 2006, 09:43 PM
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Thank you all very much for your collective input. Hotel Castello is the name of our accommodation, and it is on SS. Filippo e Giacomo, close to Saint Mark's Square, the Bridge of Sighs and the Palazzo Ducale. The hotel website mentions the Actv Water Bus Lines # 1, 51 and 82 and the San Zaccaria stop.
Will that help ? I have found the hotel on the map, but it still doesn't tell me how far away it would be from St. Mark's, or from the San Zaccaria stop, and how we would get to the hotel from there.
As I mentioned before, I am also concerned that due to the special events taking place on that weekend, the availability of transportation might be more limited at arrival and departure times (Sept. 1st and 3rd respectively).
If any of you could help me figure this out, I would really appreciate it.
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Jun 24th, 2006, 10:32 PM
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We always take the Alilaguna boat shutttle to and from the airport. If I remember correctly it is 10 Euros per person. There is a curtesy shuttle bus from the dock to the terminal. If you are fit, you can walk and drag your wheeled suitcase from the boat stop near St. Mark's to the hotel. I am 65, my husband is 72 and we always do it without any problem. I honestly think that water taxi is a waste of money. Alilaguna is a great service!
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Jun 25th, 2006, 04:05 AM
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Ok, travelgems, I've looked up where your hotel is. It is not on water so doesn't have a water dock. This means even if you take a water taxi, you'll still need to do some walking. Make sure all your cases have wheels! You have all the choices I and others outlined.

1) Regular Alilaguna to San Zaccaria stop (San Marco). The walking instructions read"

"stop at San Zaccaria (landing stage n. 16), then take the street right in front, called Calle delle Rasse; at the very end of it, turn left into Campo SS.Filippo e Giacomo, on the right you'll see our sign. "

People on tripadvisor wrote the hotel was "in an alley" meaning it's a narrow passage. There's evidently a fruit stand right next to the hotel. Here's someone's photo
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserR...ce_Veneto.html

Spygirl reports on the gold alilaguna for 25e/person that's faster as an option.

2) Land bus to P. Roma (about 9e/person) and then vaparetto (local water bus) down the Grand Canal to San Zaccaria. Then follow same walking instructions. They say:
"Line 1 takes about 50 minutes, it's the slowest ride, but you can enjoy the wonderful panorama of the Grand Canal with its palaces overlooking the water. On line 51 (green line) you can reach the hotel in 25 minutes."

I think this is probably the way I'd go in your place. It also eliminates the problem of getting from the terminal to the dock. The land buses or taxis should be right out the front. I might then splurge on a water taxi when you leave.

You could also take a land taxi to P. Roma and then the vaparetto. I'm not sure how much more it would cost.

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Jun 25th, 2006, 02:13 PM
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Hi mclaurie! Thanks so much for the indepth information. I have printed out all your info and the Alilaguna time schedule. The pic of the alley with our hotel entrance was a real bonus. Having grown up in Europe myself , I am a bit more philosophical about the often somewhat 'colorful' surroundings in european cities...Thanks to your kind efforts, and those of Spygirl, luli38 and nytraveler, we can make an educated decision. We do have luggage with wheels and are able to fasten our carry-ons on top of the suitcases, enabling us to walk with relative ease.
I am sure that other travelers, going on the same journey, facing the same situations will be thankful for your input. Thanks to you, I am looking forward to the trip with more confidence and will report back about our experiences upon our return in Sept. This was my first attempt at posting anything, and I am glad I did.
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Jun 25th, 2006, 03:56 PM
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I have appreciated the tips given to travelgems. Does anyone have a suggestion for our Marco Polo Airport arrival in Venice? We are fit and will be able to walk easily with our luggage. We are staying at the Casa Cosmo. The book describes the location: on tiny Calle di Mezzo just off Calle delle Ballotte a block from the Merceria, San Marco 4976 (Southeast of the Rialto Bridge)
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Jun 26th, 2006, 07:24 AM
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A few weeks ago we paid $100 to get form our hotel to the airport...5 people, lots of luggage.
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Jun 26th, 2006, 07:59 AM
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You don't have to reserve a water taxi. Just walk outside the airport, they are right there and waiting.
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KWP, ask your hotel for directions.
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