Too many people??!!
Jul 27th, 2007, 11:16 AM
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Jul 27th, 2007, 11:23 AM
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"What if all nineteen turn out to be genuises?"
We have to risk not spawning in that quantity, because the odds overwhelmingly favor them turning out to be more hatracks.
Does limiting population equal eugenics in your tiny universe? Poor fellow.
We have to risk not spawning in that quantity, because the odds overwhelmingly favor them turning out to be more hatracks.
Does limiting population equal eugenics in your tiny universe? Poor fellow.
Jul 27th, 2007, 11:37 AM
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Real numbers...assume 6.5 billion humans. Try a 1% increase per year. I get 65 million new humans! Next year the total will be greater. All tourist sites will have more visitors next week, next, month and next year! Solutions are many. Visit local sites. Improve your home site..add a swimming pool, put in a tennis court, start a hobby, learn to cook...
Jul 27th, 2007, 02:56 PM
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I don't mind a lot of people unless it's really hot outside and I rub into other people's bodies. Two places I went that were too crowded with heat - NY Times Square in May 2-3 years ago with 90 degrees temps, London several years ago when it was 87 degrees. Totally miserable trying to visit places with large crowds and sweaty people (myself included).
Jul 27th, 2007, 11:19 PM
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The Vatican museums. About the only place where I've felt like cattle being shuffled along to the slaughter. Cannot move an inch or view the artwork in peace. We were packed liked sardines all the way.
Jul 28th, 2007, 01:04 AM
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Agree w/prev. posters nominations of
Dubrovnik (in Oct) re cruise ships.
Fortunately, I was able to see alot
early before the cruise ship hordes
arrived. And the Louvre (in April)
To begin with, the Mona Lisa is small and the ropes are set far out & the
crowds were not orderly. Enjoyed the
Musee D'Orsay more for that reason.
Dubrovnik (in Oct) re cruise ships.
Fortunately, I was able to see alot
early before the cruise ship hordes
arrived. And the Louvre (in April)
To begin with, the Mona Lisa is small and the ropes are set far out & the
crowds were not orderly. Enjoyed the
Musee D'Orsay more for that reason.
Jul 28th, 2007, 03:44 AM
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Several people have sworn by the traveling off season theory to avoid crowds. Well I travel in March (off season) and in July every year (I get lots of vacation time but no choice as to when to take it). Yes, in many cases there are less crowds in March. Ile St Louis in Paris comes to mind. BUT - you can't go by this all the time. Someone just mentioned Venice in July as August as being very crowded. Well, it is, but according to the hotels, it is WORSE in May, June and September. Check the hotels price lists, July and August is NOT high season in Venice, spring and fall are. Also, everyone's experience differs. The first response to this thread mentioned the Royal Mile in Edinburgh as crowded. I was just there five days ago, I would definitly NOT call it crowded by any stretch. I think in August when the festival is on it probably is, but not in July (at least this July).
Also, there are definitly ways to make crowds less of an issue. Mainly, get up EARLY. I like to take photos early in the day and have found even the most crowded places to be peacefully deserted before about 10-11 in the morning. And, go a couple of steps off the main "tourist route" in any given place and you'll ususally find blissfull peace and quiet (and that includes Venice, Florence, Paris, etc in "high" season.).And spend the night in places that are crowded with bus tour day trippers between 10 and 5, usually a totally different experience (e.g. small Tuscan towns like San Gimi, etc).
Also, there are definitly ways to make crowds less of an issue. Mainly, get up EARLY. I like to take photos early in the day and have found even the most crowded places to be peacefully deserted before about 10-11 in the morning. And, go a couple of steps off the main "tourist route" in any given place and you'll ususally find blissfull peace and quiet (and that includes Venice, Florence, Paris, etc in "high" season.).And spend the night in places that are crowded with bus tour day trippers between 10 and 5, usually a totally different experience (e.g. small Tuscan towns like San Gimi, etc).
Jul 28th, 2007, 05:43 AM
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There are just too many people on Earth and in maybe just sixty years there could be twice as many people about. Any tourist place worth going to is packed with people and even in off season people flock there.
It was one reason I could not wait to leave the UK for. Living in rural France I have maybe 60 people living within a mile radius of me and don't see anybody unless I leave my property.
Though many people here say how much they love Paris (not far away), I can't stand the place because of the crowds everywhere.
It was one reason I could not wait to leave the UK for. Living in rural France I have maybe 60 people living within a mile radius of me and don't see anybody unless I leave my property.
Though many people here say how much they love Paris (not far away), I can't stand the place because of the crowds everywhere.
Jul 28th, 2007, 06:02 AM
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kaneda, I'm in NYC, which possibly influenced why I asked the question in the first place: I love cities and city life, and most European cities (save London?) are still of a size one can comprehend as a traveler, while so many in other places have grown huge: Lima, Peru is 9 million! Shanghai, 12 million. Anyway, I don't mind at all living around people, but don't care for being cheek-by-jowl, even here in NY. You won't find me in Times Square on New Year's Eve.
I agree with Isabel about getting up early: insomnia while in Paris had me out on the streets well before 6:00 AM for a walk and first coffee several days running. Possibly the most beautiful hours I've spent in Paris. Though you can't get in to attractions, you can definitely see the architecture, see the city wake up, enjoy the early light (and photo ops, as Isabel points out) enjoy having the sidewalk to yourself! And though churches may not begin their "tourist hours" until later, you may catch a mass in progress. There will be warm bread and lots of locals stopping for morning coffee or whatever ritual fits the place. A great way to get to know a culture, actually.
I agree with Isabel about getting up early: insomnia while in Paris had me out on the streets well before 6:00 AM for a walk and first coffee several days running. Possibly the most beautiful hours I've spent in Paris. Though you can't get in to attractions, you can definitely see the architecture, see the city wake up, enjoy the early light (and photo ops, as Isabel points out) enjoy having the sidewalk to yourself! And though churches may not begin their "tourist hours" until later, you may catch a mass in progress. There will be warm bread and lots of locals stopping for morning coffee or whatever ritual fits the place. A great way to get to know a culture, actually.
