To be alone with nature without giving up the usual benefits of civilization
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Did you have something particular in mind? This is how I like to travel--in a secluded nature spot, but with restaurants within walking distance.
Here are a couple places that might inspire you:
Outside Camogli, Italy:
https://la-rosa-bianca-di-portofino-...li.booked.net/
Kardamyli, Greece:
https://www.booking.com/hotel/gr/gik...-messenia.html
Vetulonia, Italy:
https://www.baciarino.com/
Here are a couple places that might inspire you:
Outside Camogli, Italy:
https://la-rosa-bianca-di-portofino-...li.booked.net/
Kardamyli, Greece:
https://www.booking.com/hotel/gr/gik...-messenia.html
Vetulonia, Italy:
https://www.baciarino.com/
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Look at the west coast of Scotland , DM if you want I'm not posting where to go on a public site.
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There are any number of areas where you'll be alone if you walk / hike. Is that what you have in mind? Most people go where it requires no effort to get there, so if you're willing to put in just a little effort it makes all the difference.
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Look at the west coast of Scotland, DM if you want I'm not posting where to go on a public site.
BC, I feel that way about my favorite Irish village. We are going to Islay next May but not for the faint of heart getting there. Not flying as weather causes many delays. Taking the ferry.
BC, I feel that way about my favorite Irish village. We are going to Islay next May but not for the faint of heart getting there. Not flying as weather causes many delays. Taking the ferry.
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Rent a traditional chalet/alphut in the Swiss alps: https://www.airbnb.ch/rooms/19193377...LeeijZyhjhTOfu
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Look at the west coast of Scotland, DM if you want I'm not posting where to go on a public site.
BC, I feel that way about my favorite Irish village. We are going to Islay next May but not for the faint of heart getting there. Not flying as weather causes many delays. Taking the ferry.
BC, I feel that way about my favorite Irish village. We are going to Islay next May but not for the faint of heart getting there. Not flying as weather causes many delays. Taking the ferry.
I’m about to build a house in one area which is at the far extreme of what people would call perfect. Otters, deer, wild cats, dolphins, whales, basking sharks, bloody pine martens everywhere (pests but cute) and the rest. Together with Michelin star food and some bloke in a white van with the best seafood in the world. Do I want to advertise it ....No!
Islay has the best whisky in the world and yes .....the logistics put most people off.
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If you haven't been to Greece before be prepared for some really "natural" areas, especially the mainland.
The Mani in the south of the Peloponnese Peninsula is truly wild with some of the most spectacular scenery I've seen in all my travels. Yet there are towns/villages that offer conveniences like shops, markets and tavernas.
The history of the Mani goes back centuries and was the home of the start of the Greek War for Independence against the Ottoman Empire. The locals are welcoming but have an edge you want find in other parts of Greece.
They love to party, enjoy life and if you pick up a few words or phrases of Greek you'll make instant friends.
The rest of the Peloponnese offers almost as much "nature", history, character, friendly locals, great food, alcohol, history, fantastic villages, scenery, beaches but you can still stay at villages that offer conveniences but not over-the-top tourism like Santorini or Mykonos.
Lots of islands to consider but you'll need to find the ones that don't get all the hype like the Big Names Ones!
More research on your part will discover that many areas of Greece are not the tame, wait on you hand-and-foot, do anything for tourism like other countries.
The Mani in the south of the Peloponnese Peninsula is truly wild with some of the most spectacular scenery I've seen in all my travels. Yet there are towns/villages that offer conveniences like shops, markets and tavernas.
The history of the Mani goes back centuries and was the home of the start of the Greek War for Independence against the Ottoman Empire. The locals are welcoming but have an edge you want find in other parts of Greece.
They love to party, enjoy life and if you pick up a few words or phrases of Greek you'll make instant friends.
The rest of the Peloponnese offers almost as much "nature", history, character, friendly locals, great food, alcohol, history, fantastic villages, scenery, beaches but you can still stay at villages that offer conveniences but not over-the-top tourism like Santorini or Mykonos.
Lots of islands to consider but you'll need to find the ones that don't get all the hype like the Big Names Ones!
More research on your part will discover that many areas of Greece are not the tame, wait on you hand-and-foot, do anything for tourism like other countries.
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I loved my time in the Dolomites for its combination of spectacular scenery and near at hand civilization,
Solo in Italia once again: Venice, Bologna (Ravenna), Ortisei, Bolzano, Verona. See post 30 for photos. I thoroughly enjoyed Ortisei, but you could stay up higher for a more away from it all experience, e.g., https://www.uhrerhof.com/en.html.
Solo in Italia once again: Venice, Bologna (Ravenna), Ortisei, Bolzano, Verona. See post 30 for photos. I thoroughly enjoyed Ortisei, but you could stay up higher for a more away from it all experience, e.g., https://www.uhrerhof.com/en.html.
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If you haven't been to Greece before be prepared for some really "natural" areas, especially the mainland.
The Mani in the south of the Peloponnese Peninsula is truly wild with some of the most spectacular scenery I've seen in all my travels. Yet there are towns/villages that offer conveniences like shops, markets and tavernas.
The history of the Mani goes back centuries and was the home of the start of the Greek War for Independence against the Ottoman Empire. The locals are welcoming but have an edge you want find in other parts of Greece.
They love to party, enjoy life and if you pick up a few words or phrases of Greek you'll make instant friends.
The rest of the Peloponnese offers almost as much "nature", history, character, friendly locals, great food, alcohol, history, fantastic villages, scenery, beaches but you can still stay at villages that offer conveniences but not over-the-top tourism like Santorini or Mykonos.
Lots of islands to consider but you'll need to find the ones that don't get all the hype like the Big Names Ones!
More research on your part will discover that many areas of Greece are not the tame, wait on you hand-and-foot, do anything for tourism like other countries.
The Mani in the south of the Peloponnese Peninsula is truly wild with some of the most spectacular scenery I've seen in all my travels. Yet there are towns/villages that offer conveniences like shops, markets and tavernas.
The history of the Mani goes back centuries and was the home of the start of the Greek War for Independence against the Ottoman Empire. The locals are welcoming but have an edge you want find in other parts of Greece.
They love to party, enjoy life and if you pick up a few words or phrases of Greek you'll make instant friends.
The rest of the Peloponnese offers almost as much "nature", history, character, friendly locals, great food, alcohol, history, fantastic villages, scenery, beaches but you can still stay at villages that offer conveniences but not over-the-top tourism like Santorini or Mykonos.
Lots of islands to consider but you'll need to find the ones that don't get all the hype like the Big Names Ones!
More research on your part will discover that many areas of Greece are not the tame, wait on you hand-and-foot, do anything for tourism like other countries.
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I’m lucky in that I live in Central Switzerland which allows me to explore on my e-bike. Today I was in a place that few know, even the locals. Nature pure. It was. The first time I heard the loud buzzing of bees and other insects simply due to lack of no other noises.

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This is such a First World Problem. Reading about this request brought back a memory ...
About 15 years ago,I found a bargain air fare to London & took along my son-in-law's mother (who'd always longed to see England but husband not interested ). We lucked into a bus route from Stratford to Bath that would take us thru the scenic Cotswolds... and were seated beside a quiet Asian woman, with a backpacK & a trekking stick. We asked where she was headed. Very softly, in halting English, she told us of her passion. She was from Thailand, a short-order cook in a Bangkok diner. Many years ago, she fell in love with pictures in a book, of the English countryside & its footpaths. Now she saves all year long, and each Fall, on her only time off - 2 weeks in the off-season - she buys economy ticket to Britain and walks for 2 weeks, each time a new section on the long route she plans out during the other 50 weeks of the year. Her face lit up with joy, telling us.
For my trips to Greece, a lifelong yearning only realized in my 60s, I scrimped year-long, took no other trips, set a €50daily budget. Now that Greece is probably no longer in my future, I still know how blessed I have been to pursue that dream. It was not a family hobby it was my passion, and I have been fortunate to also find joy.
About 15 years ago,I found a bargain air fare to London & took along my son-in-law's mother (who'd always longed to see England but husband not interested ). We lucked into a bus route from Stratford to Bath that would take us thru the scenic Cotswolds... and were seated beside a quiet Asian woman, with a backpacK & a trekking stick. We asked where she was headed. Very softly, in halting English, she told us of her passion. She was from Thailand, a short-order cook in a Bangkok diner. Many years ago, she fell in love with pictures in a book, of the English countryside & its footpaths. Now she saves all year long, and each Fall, on her only time off - 2 weeks in the off-season - she buys economy ticket to Britain and walks for 2 weeks, each time a new section on the long route she plans out during the other 50 weeks of the year. Her face lit up with joy, telling us.
For my trips to Greece, a lifelong yearning only realized in my 60s, I scrimped year-long, took no other trips, set a €50daily budget. Now that Greece is probably no longer in my future, I still know how blessed I have been to pursue that dream. It was not a family hobby it was my passion, and I have been fortunate to also find joy.
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I’m about to build a house in one area which is at the far extreme of what people would call perfect. Otters, deer, wild cats, dolphins, whales, basking sharks, bloody pine martens everywhere (pests but cute) and the rest. Together with Michelin star food and some bloke in a white van with the best seafood in the world. Do I want to advertise it ....No!
It is a real problem in many places though. Word gets out and they get overrun. First the "influencers" with their over perfect photos and then the mob arrives, or worse they promote themselves and become victims of their own success like the NC500.
If I knew somewhere so idyllic sounding there is no way I would post it's whereabouts on Fodors!


