SaozinhaP

Really coffee, please: a few years ago I start looking at the trademark of the coffee before ask for it... Segafredo, Nicola, Delta, Cristina in the N, etc.
Lobo Mau: I have the same problem, more than 40 are already allocate to my Id card, but I'm saving: I only use 37, by the moment.
The "work (...?)" its a naugthy comment on the large quantity of info you find the time of kindly provide about Pt!
Is it usual to see that a recent post has disappeared with the answers?

lobo_mau

I came to a week end in upper Alentejo in Sogra's Inn. The room is not very large but it's really a family environment. The food is top quality.
I'll let you know the details after return to Lisbon.

bailey6325

Hi all!

I'm new to this board and I want to thank you for this wonderfully informative thread. My husband and I will be visiting Portugal this May/June and I am currently investigating car rental in Portugal. We don't plan to have a car while in Lisbon or Porto, but right now we plan to hire a car for driving around the other parts. My question is this - is it really as dangerous to drive in Portugal as they say? I have read mixed reviews - some write that we shouldn't worry and others talk about it being the most dangerous in Europe. What advice can you offer me? Can you calm my fears?

Thanks!

lobo_mau

I like the Baileys Irish Cream but I prefer the matured reds (don't take this as personal).

lobo_mau

Believe it or not, I know people who drove in Portugal and survived to tell the experience. Therefore I believe it isn't that bad.
Next Monday I'll post some EU official statistics and you may judge by yourself

Sher

lobo_mau. Have sent you an email with the dates for our GTG in Lisbon. I do not have your correct address. Please email me when you have time so I can tell you the exact dates we will be there.
[email protected]

mari5

Bailey: NO, driving in Portugal isn't nearly as bad as some people are saying. We (my husband, 3 children, and I) lived there 2 yrs in the l970's). I drove everyplace, drove right down into center of Lisbon with ladies for lunch and shopping (though most of them would NOT drive into the city). My husband and I returned last year for 5 days and really enjoyed it. Rented a car (medium/full) from Avis I believe, and drove everyplace.ie; Lisbon, out the coast to Cascais, Estoril, up to Sintra etc.
Roads are good, stay in your own lane, and it's really no worse than most cities of Europe. In regard to "other parts" of Portugal , you will have a great time..and it's easy driving. The people are very nice and helpful. and it truly IS a beautiful, interesting country.

lobo_mau

For Baileys. EU official statistics -fatalities in Europe, rate by million population:

Malta 33
Netherlands 50
Sweden 54
United Kingdom 56
Denmark 69
Germany 71
Finland 72
Ireland 89
France 93
Italy 97
Austria 108
Luxembourg 110
Spain 113
Slovakia 113
Estonia 124
PORTUGAL 125
Hungary 127
Belgium a) 131
Czech Republic 135
Slovenia 137
Poland 148
Greece 153
Cyprus 154
Lithuania 216
Latvia 220

a) last available data for Belgium is 2002, all other countries is 2004.

check: http://europa.eu.int/comm/transport/care/index_en.htm

SaozinhaP

Lobo Mau,
If Alto Alentejo means around Elvas and Portalegre, please report on your "outdoors" food experience...

lobo_mau

While in Elvas region I ate mostly in Sogra's Inn. It's incredibly unexpensive
Outside Sogra's Inn, I experienced the Restaurant "A Maria" in Alandroal, the highlight of any travel. I went there with the webmaster and author of www.discoverportugal2day.com and the bill was around 100 euros for 6. Good value for money imho. I tryed "O Isaias" in Estremoz. I had there grilled Burras (pork maxilar bone, it was ok, except for the poor pig had bad teeth). Another good option is Varchotel, with all the collection of black pig meats, including burras and the famous secrets. It has a minus, as is in the first node of the highway coming from Spain, it's usually packed with Spaniards (mostly during weekends).
I went to Vila Viçosa Pousada and I didn't like. The food buffet is ok, but tooo much expensive. I think the reference of that region is "A Bolota" in Terrugem, but I don't have first hand experience (I guest it to be expensive).

SaozinhaP

"A Bolota" this summer had the main dishes around 18-24 € and (conventual) desserts around 15 €.
You missed restaurant "A Estalagem", at Arronches, for the house special: carpa with poejos - go ahead, translate this one!!!

seetheworld

Hi Baily. Here's some info that may be helpful.

http://tinyurl.com/j4wlk

lobo_mau

I haven't tried A Estalagem yet. I'll go there as soon as I can. I don't dare to translate "carpa and poejos", I think that it is a mission for Matt. Hi Matt, where are you? Did you get lost in a place with no Internet.

Seetheworld, I don't wish to comment the site, except the chapter "language tips" It's hilarious!!! I recommend it to any Portuguese readers willing to spend the afternoon with a smile on their face

seetheworld

Lobo, it actually brought a huge smile to my face, lol. You can also use any of those phrases on a "bad date" while in Portugal.

bailey6325

All - thank you for the great info on driving in Portugal.

seetheworld - that's a great document - full of useful info - thanks!

bardo1

Just an FYI for the Lisbon interested that US Airways is starting non-stop service to Lisbon from Philadelphia and has a promotional fare of $723 (during JUNE 2006) round trip (includes all taxes/fees).

Sher

bardo. There are even ff tickets available because that is how we got ours.
I am so excited.
You leave Philadelphia at 8:30pm and arrive in Lisbon 8:30 am.

lobo_mau

Hi Sher
I sent you 2 emails yesterday. Did you receive them?

Sher

Yes, I did receive them but only the ones that said you were writing from your mother-in-law's.
Is this the email address you want me to use to send you the dates of our stay?

lobo_mau

yes please. it is my only personal email. feel free to email without no problem at all