The Cavern Club - Liverpool

Aug 6th, 2005, 04:45 PM
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The Cavern Club - Liverpool

We are planning a trip to Europe next year for Christmas. Our son (14) is a serious music junkie & wants to visit Liverpool. Of course, he wants to see The Cavern Club. My question is, will he be allowed in the club? If so, when is the best time to go? Thanks
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Aug 6th, 2005, 05:23 PM
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I don't know what their policy is, but I would imagine that being the historical and tourist site that it is, it should be possible to get him in before an evening's show, if not for a show.

If not, resort to the fine art of finagling. You know, the old sob story,"obsessed with history," " he's come thousands of miles and it would mean a lot to him." You know the routine.

Then if all else fails, remember the old saying, "Money talks" Ten pounds maybe?

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Aug 6th, 2005, 09:50 PM
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I'm not sure of their policy either, but you can e-mail them via their website.

I hope you will do the Beatles coach tour as well. Your son has great taste in music!

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Aug 7th, 2005, 08:28 AM
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Thanks for the suggestions. I may have to resort to begging. ;-) We're coming from Tampa, Florida. Definitely, a long way to experience a disappointment. I'll email them to see. We'll probably take the 2 tours I've seen info. on & visit the museum, along with anything else that is Beatles related.
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Not wishing to be a wet blanket, but...

You do realise this isn't the real Cavern? It's a mock-up built a few yards away from where we used to get hot and sweaty in the early 60s (when being under 15 was practically a requirement to get in). The new place has the same address the real one had, though I understand it no longer has the authentic smell of greasy hamburgers and unwashed teenagers (none of us had houses with baths back then).

The new Cavern is open as a tourist site in the daytime, and will take anyone's money. As a simple guide to life in today's Liverpool: offering a bribe to bouncers at the door of any pub or club is very, very, stupid (they take offence very easily, they're a lot bigger than you and a lot less socially graceful, and it'll cost them their job in a pub or club with an age policy). But smiling and saying you've come from somewhere remote (or even Florida, which in Liverpool counts as next door) will get you practically anywhere, including the men's toilets at The Philharmonic pub, which aren't a pale imitation of the original.

Incidentally, you might try taking your son to the Ann Summers sex shop in Whitechapel, a few yards from the Cavern. This (in its previous incarnation as a record shop) was where Brian Epstein first heard about the Beatles in 1961, and took over their management.
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Aug 7th, 2005, 09:37 PM
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flanneruk is correct. The New Cavern is a recreation of the original, which was destroyed in the '70's. And when he says "Ann Summers Sex Shop", be aware this means a sexy lingerie store, not unlike Victoria's Secret (not a brothel.) I hope you do the Beatles coach tour, as well as the Forthlin/Mendips tour of Paul's and John's homes. This is where they wrote and rehearsed their early songs. Even if it is a new Cavern, your son will be thrilled to walk down Mathew Street and imagine what those days were like. For us baby-boomer Americans, Liverpool can be a place of magic and mystery, despite its scruffy atmosphere. The locals will be delighted to see you. If you have any other questions about the 'Pool, post 'em here.
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Aug 8th, 2005, 07:38 AM
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Aside - kjosker. Bribery may well be popular, or expected, in many cultures, but it is really 'not the done thing' here in the UK. Prepare for a few raised eyebrows at the minimum if you ever try it here.
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Aug 8th, 2005, 10:06 AM
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Thanks for the advice. We did know that The Cavern Club isn't the original, but he still really wants to see it. I'm glad to see that we Floridians are practically locals. Hi, neighbors. ;-) I just wish it only took a quick drive to get there. I think the bribery hint was said tongue in cheek. Most Americans aren't in the habit of bribing our way into things either. I'm glad you explained what the sex shop was. The things that went through my head. I'm sure I'll be back with many more questions, as they arise.
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Aug 8th, 2005, 11:03 AM
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Kate, you can get off your sanctimonious high horse because that horse is not going to ride. The British are no better or no worse than people anywhere else. To intimate that they are is the essence of racism.

You cannot suggest to me that bribery is non-existent in the UK. I've seen it. Does it make me think any less of the UK? No it doesn't. It's a part of human nature in its basest form. Of course that doesn't make it right, nor does denying its' existence.

That's what I meant by not making the rules; I simply accept human nature for what it is. No condecension or thinking someone else is superior or inferior.
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Aug 8th, 2005, 12:15 PM
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"Bribery may well be popular, or expected, in many cultures, but it is really 'not the done thing' here in the UK. Prepare for a few raised eyebrows at the minimum if you ever try it here."

Sure about that?

UK Bribery Loopholes Criticized

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Sorry, but it seems it very much IS "the done thing" in the UK. But oh, I forgot, it's only those "other cultures" that do it right?

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