Go Back  Fodor's Travel Talk Forums > Destinations > Europe
Reload this Page >

TGV Confusion CDG to Nice

Search

TGV Confusion CDG to Nice

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 08:28 AM
  #1  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
TGV Confusion CDG to Nice

When I look at direct TGV trains from Charles de Gaulles to Nice on May 4, 2011, it seems like there are 2 trains leaving at 11:42 going directly to Nice with no stops. The train numbers are # 9826 and # 5164. The only difference I can see is that # 5164 is a duplex train. Yesterday I reserved 2 Prems seats on # 9826 in 1st class at 40 Euros each. Seats in 2nd class were 90 Euros for 2 seats. I booked on the TGV Europe site.
My question I guess is, are there really 2 TGV trains to Nice leaving at the same time, both trips are 6 hours and 22 minutes and both arriving into Nice at the same time? Thanks for your help.
Mallary is offline  
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 08:46 AM
  #2  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 35,166
Likes: 0
they show trains for the next day. Those are two different trains based on the date. They could not run two trains at the same time on the same track, of course.

09825 is for may 5th, I believe, and 05164 for may 4th

The time schedule shows you that and if you clicked to buy it you would see the date, hope you would notice. The 9826 train says "jour+1" on it if you ask for trains for May 4th, because it is on may 5th.

So check your ticket and see what date it is. When I checked to buy that train, it clearly said it was for may 5th.
Christina is offline  
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 08:53 AM
  #3  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Thank you for your quick response. Our tickets have the Depart 04/05 a 11:42 de Charles de Gaulle 2 TGV
Arrivee 04/05 a 18:04 a Nice City
TGV 9826
Mallary is offline  
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 09:28 AM
  #4  
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,129
Likes: 0
Train 9826 goes from Brussels to Nice. Train 5164 goes from Lille to Nice. The two TGVs are joined at Charles de Gaulle and continue as one train to Nice. Therefore, from the airport to Nice, passengers can reserve seats in either train, but you cannot walk between the two parts of the train. Each part of the train will have a bar.
TGVs often run this way. From Paris to Brittany, for instance, there are 20-carriage TGVs to Rennes where the train divides: a ten-car train goes via northern Brittany to Brest, and a ten-car train goes via southern Brittany to Quimper.
GeoffHamer is offline  
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 09:35 AM
  #5  
Original Poster
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Thank you very much for your answers. Do both trains have the same car number? Is there a way to tell if you are in the Car #4 of 9826 or Car # 4 5164? Pardon me if this is a stupid question. This is our 1st TGV experience and 2nd train experience from CDG.
Mallary is offline  
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 09:36 AM
  #6  
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 3,179
Likes: 0
<<They could not run two trains at the same time on the same track,>>

Actually the SNCF does do this. They typically run a regular TGV which is physically connected to but not otherwise accessible to an iDTGV train which follows. The two trains have different numbers, different compositions but otherwise the arrival/departure times are identical.

I find just as Christina points out, the 9826 departs on May 5th, the 5164 departs on May 4th.
Sarastro is offline  
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 09:50 AM
  #7  
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,129
Likes: 0
There will be no confusion over carriage numbers. If they are eight-car trains, one will have carriages numbered 1-8 and the other will be 9-16. At the station there are signs to indicate the layout of the train to tell you which part of the platform to wait.
In this case, train 5164 from Lille arrives at Charles de Gaulle at 1132; train 9826 arrives from Brussels at 1136. Train 9826 must therefore be in the rear. The combined train leaves at 1142.
GeoffHamer is offline  
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 09:54 AM
  #8  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 49,560
Likes: 0
Also, I have found in most cases where there are two distinct but connected trains, there are always train personnel at the quais to make sure you get to the right car on the right train.
StCirq is offline  
Old Feb 9th, 2011 | 10:07 AM
  #9  
20 Anniversary
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 35,166
Likes: 0
yeah, I see that, it is weird. I don't use TGV-europe, only the main voyages-sncf website and they seem to have different info on those trains. Well, as long as you have a train ticket with that date on it, I think you are okay. Sometimes they do give two different numbers to the same train, though, but usually that is for a TGV and iDTGV number or something like that, and then it will be different cars. I've never seen two diff. train numbers, both for a regular TGV, for the same train. Maybe one is for the upper deck and the other not.
Christina is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Original Poster
Forum
Replies
Last Post
jill_h
Europe
23
Feb 15th, 2016 04:12 PM
ILUVPARIS
Europe
5
May 7th, 2015 09:38 AM
hikergirl11
Europe
11
Apr 5th, 2011 06:51 AM
cocofromdijon
Europe
4
May 10th, 2009 04:58 AM
Scott
Europe
15
Jul 9th, 2002 08:48 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement -