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Old Apr 5th, 2008, 10:09 AM
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Schuler, DAX:

Ewigi Liebi was a hit song by Swiss soft-rock group mash. It was adapted for Yodelling choir by the head of Jodelchörli Wiesenberg. Here are the original version and my attemps of translation into standard German and English:

Origina text (pasted from mash's website)

nimm mich i arm & drück mich fescht a dich & la mi nummä los
ich tanke mich grad a dier uf, will’s eifach so guet tued
ich ha di gärn, ich bruchä dich, ja ich bi süchtig nach diär
doch garantiä chan ich diär keini gä, dass es für immer so wird si


ewigi liäbi - das wünsch ich diär
ewigi liäbi - das wünsch ich miär
ewigi liäbi - numä für üs zwei
ewigi liäbi - fühl mich bi dier dehäi


säg nid für immer & säg nid niä, ich gibä alles für dich uf
di blick hed igschlagä i mis härz, hesch mich zum brännä bracht
troffä vo dem stromstoss, wo so guet tued, würdi alles machä,
alles gä, alles für dich tuä, ich la dich nümmä los


ewigi liäbi ...


ich weiss, liäbi chunnt & gad, wiene cherzä schmelzt sie wäg
ja, wienäs lied hört sie eifach uf oder sie haut eifach ab
niemmer seid, es sigi liecht, es isch es einzigs gäh & näh
s’git kei verlüürer oder gwünner i dem würfelschpiel...


ewigi liäbi ...

standard German:

Nimm mich in den Arm und drücke mich fest an Dich und lasse mich nicht mehr los
Ich tanke mich geradezu an Dir auf weil es einfach so gut tut
Ich habe Dich gern, ich brauche Dich, ja ich bin süchtig nach Dir
Doch kann ich Dir keine Garantien geben, dass es für mich immer so sein wird

Ewige Liebe - das wünsche ich Dir
Ewige Liebe - das wünsche ich mir
Ewige Liebe - nur für uns zwei
Ewige Liebe - ich fühle mich bei dir zuhause

Sag nicht "für immer" und sage nicht "nie", ich gebe für Dich alles auf
Dein Blick hat in mein Herz eingschlagen Du hast mich zum Brennen gebracht
Getroffen vom Stromschlag, der so wohl tut, würde ich alles machen,
Alles geben, alles für Dich tun, ich lasse Dich nicht mehr los.

Ewige Liebe...

Ich weiss, Liebe kommt und geht, wie eine Kerze schmilzt sie weg
Ja, sie hört einfach auf wie ein Lied oder sie haut einfach ab
Niemand sagt, es sei einfach, es ist ein einziges Geben und Nehmen
Es gibt weder Verlierer noch Sieger in diesem Würfelspiel

Ewige Liebe...


English:

Take me in your arm and squeeze me tightly and don't let me go
I fill up on you, because it feels so good
I love you, I need you, I am even addicted to you
But I can't give any guarantee that it will stay this way forever

Eternal love - this is what I wish you
Eternal love - this is waht I wish me
Eternal love - only for the two of us
Eternal love - I feel at home with you

Don't say "forever" and don't say "never", I give up everything for you
Your glance has hit my heart, you have set me on fire
Hit by that impulse, which feels so good, I would do anything,
Give everything, do any thing for you, I won't let go of you.

Eternal love...

I konw, love comes and goes, melts away like a candle
Yes, it simply ends like a song or simply beats off
Nobody claims it to be easy, it is all a matter of give and take
There are no losers and no winners in this game of dice

Eternal love...


Have a nice week end and enjoy your trip.

Phil.
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Old Apr 5th, 2008, 12:34 PM
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Thanks Phil.

My godson's teacher is the lead singer (Patrick Bernhard) for Mash. They have other songs as well but the above song is the best! Did you get the translations from their website? I searched for the English translation but didn't look on the Mash website.
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Old Apr 5th, 2008, 12:40 PM
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schuler:

You're welcome. No, I did the standard German and English translations myself.

Not too much Brunner in your region today? *grin.

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Old Apr 5th, 2008, 01:49 PM
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Thanks Phil. An dir auftanken makes total sense! At the same time, you did an incredibly good english translation. I'm amazed how good/subtle your English is, not sure if you learned it in Scandinavia or in the US/UK?
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Wie, bitte? OK Phil. I've read through your whole text and understood every word except for the last line.

"Brunner?" Für mich nur Kauderwelsch. Klär mich auf!
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DAX:
In school, at home, in Switzerland.

schuler:
"Brunner" as in "Toni Brunner", as in "SVP", as in "idiot".

G'night.

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Old Apr 5th, 2008, 02:28 PM
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Hoi Phil!

Brunner once mentioned he'd like to see McCain win. I believe it.

I wish they'd leave Widmer-Schlumpf alone. She may prove to be an outstanding Bundesrat.

Guet Nacht! Bhüeti Gott!

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Old Apr 6th, 2008, 07:40 AM
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I am in awe of the democratic check & balance system in Switzerland especially after learning how the Nationalrat was able to take away the Bundesrat seat from the charismatic Blocher and the SVP can't do anything about it. I'm trying to understand more. Does the National Council vote on the Federal Council seats every 7 years? Is it a constutional arrangement or merely a coalition consensual agreement to do so?

It's just interesting how Widmer Schlump could ago against her own party (leaders) by taking over Blocher's seat. I assume they can't yank her off the party, so is she constitutionally good for the next 7 years?
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What canton of Switzerland are you going to?

I'm quite familiar with Sankt Gallen and Aargau.
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You may not want to mention that Switzerland is the only civilized country i think where hunting cats is legal and then selling their pelts for garments

200 metres or more from it home and the cat apparently is fair game
I was shocked by an article in the NYTimes docmenting this disgusting practice.
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Pal: I finally found a Swiss article about this. Seems that there are a few hunters that shoot wild cats in the forest. Some even sell the furs. And, yup, if it's a LEGAL hunter, then it's legal.

The hunting organisation does not promote cat hunting. They promote cat castration. Only a few people say wild housecats are deadly for small forest animals.

This is not a widespread activity. I can imagine there are a few people that do it and once the media gets a public reaction, some new laws might be made.

Please, please don't think Switzerland is a cat killer country. We're not. Cars kill more cats than the few hunters.

Here's the article: (in German)
http://www.blick.ch/news/schweiz/im-...schossen-83585

Personally, this Widmer-Schlumpf scandal is making me nervous. The poor woman is getting death threats and won't attend public events because of the high cost of security around her. Kind of shows what kind of people are in the SVP. Not a pretty picture indeed. (Nor is she, unfortunately, but the Bundesrat speak highly of her.)

http://www.swissinfo.org/eng/front/P...2000&ty=st
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Old Apr 6th, 2008, 08:52 AM
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Another article on cat fur:

http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/front/Ca...true&ty=st

Just don't tell the children about it. It really isn't what Switzerland is about.
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If the OP is still looking for young children's versions of Heidi, I'd recommend the Little Golden Books' Heidi. Gorgeous illustrations, too. Of course there are many Heidi's for young children.

I also think any sort of books with lots of big, colourful photographs of the Alps, Swiss villages, cows, etc., would be fun for them to look at, like a coffee-table book. Then you could just have a nice time looking at the books with them and talking to them and answering their questions, and see what sorts of things pique their curiosity. A children's world atlas with good illustrations would be great, too.

Another fun book might be 'Asterix in Switzerland'. Your children would be far too young to actually read it, or even to really understand it if read aloud to them, but the illustrations are great and some of course are very silly, like the Romans getting completely tangled up and covered in melted cheese whenever they have a fondue. I started "reading" Asterix books with my dad when I was about 4yrs old; I loved the illustrations and the visual gags, and my dad would sort of tell me the story of what was going on, explain the jokes to me and some of the historical or cultural context behind them. I think this would be a great way to get them thinking about their trip.
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Old Apr 6th, 2008, 09:24 AM
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I found the answer to my question in the articles from your link. I see that she's constitutionally elected by the Parliament for the next 4 years as the justice minister. It's such an unprecedented power struggle at the highest government level. What threw me off is how the parliament was able to pick a mere kantonal Beamte to replace the most powerful party leader as justice minister. I can see why the SVP is upset by the coup d'etat. That's just beautiful Putsch. She's a brave woman to stay on the Bundesrat despite everything. I wonder if the SVP will try to get 50.000 signatures to start a national referendum to remove her. Or is the parliamentary seat election sacred from referendum?

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Mrs Widmer-Schlumpf wasn't a simple cantonal "beamter". She was member of a cantonal government ("Finanzdirektorin": similar to finance minister of a Bundesland in Germany or treasurer of a state of the US). As such, she had to be elected by the population of her canton.

It is not uncommon to elect members of cantonal governments to the federal government, supposing that they got training on the minor job to do the major one. Of the present seven members of Bundesrat, 3 were ministers in their respective cantons when they were elected to the national government.

She was also chairwoman of the conference of cantonal finance ministers, a post which is more powerful than is generally acknowledged, as the major part of tax money raised in Switzerland remains with the cantons. So, in political circles, she was far better known than would appear from outside the politically interested community.

As Bundesrätin, she is elected for 4 years without a possibility to remove her from office. There is no option of a referendum (50'000 votes) or initiative (100'000 votes) to remove a sitting Bundesrat.

The seven members of the Bundesrat, the Swiss government, are elected every 4th year after national parliamentary elections in joint session of parliament. Outside this 4-year rhythm, elections to the Bundesrat occur only when a member resigns.

So far she has not made any blunders or mistakes and the Bundesrat seems to work in better harmony than during the last four years with Mr. Blocher as member.

I am confident, that all this unpleasant campaigning will stop once the electorate notices that there is no substance behind the noise made by the SVP, and that cult of a political leader is not equivalent to efficient political work.

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Phil,

What an excellent post. Thank you.

I still think it's a shame she can attend public events with high level security. I don't recall that ever happening in Switzerland before.
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can'T attend public events...
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Can't attend public events without high level security.

Guet Nacht!
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