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Old Apr 19th, 2013, 09:48 AM
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Can I do all these 5 things if I happen to spent 1 full day in Breinz and then back to interlaken?

Ballenberg Open Air Museum
Brienzer Rothorn Steam Cog Railway
Lake Brienz Cruise
Walk along Brunngasse
Giessbach Falls

Is yes, what shall be the order?
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Old Apr 19th, 2013, 12:10 PM
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Is yes, what shall be the order?>

A full day yes - take the boat first to Geissbach Falls - spend an hour or so there until the next boat and get off at Brienz - hop the postal bus to the open-air museum and then back to Brienz for the steam train to the summit - I walked back down and it was really nice and easy on nice wide paths - and then take the train quickly back to Interlaken-Ost.

A Swiss Pass covers everything - boat, train and even gets free entry to the Ballenberg museum - about a $20 value there all told.

Lake Thun is very different and I actually think Lake Brienz has more varied things to offer - Lake Thun IMO has better views of the snow-capped Jungfrau Massif and the places neckervd mentions are also sweet, especially Oberhofen and its waterside castle.
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Old Apr 20th, 2013, 08:29 AM
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"Can I do all these 5 things if I happen to spent 1 full day in Breinz and then back to interlaken?"

Well, it depends on the time you spend at Ballenberg. Some people spend there almost the whole day, others not mor than 2 hrs.
And it depends on the time of the year.


I think it would be possible on Saturdays between July 6th and Sept 14th, because then, you have a evening boat

You may try: Interlaken dp 8.04 by train - Brienz 8.22/8.37 - Ballenberg ar 8.49, dp 14.07 - Brienz ar 14.22, dp 14.58 - Rothorn ar 15.57, dp 16.28 - Brienz 17.32, dp by boat 17.40 - Giessbach See 17.50/20.50 - Interlaken Brienzerse ar 21.53.
On other days, you can do the same, but you have to skip Giessbach Falls. You can just go by boyt to Giessbach See and remain on board up to Interlaken ar 18.33.

If you follow the suggestion of Palen, you arrive at Brienz at 12.20 and will then have to make a choice between Ballenberg and Brienzer Rothorn: both would not be possible at this time of day.
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadm.../2013/3470.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadm...013/31.151.pdf
http://www.fahrplanfelder.ch/fileadm...s/2013/475.pdf
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Old Apr 20th, 2013, 08:34 AM
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PS) If you leave Ballenberg 2 hrs earlier, you can do all
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Old Apr 20th, 2013, 08:55 AM
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hi neckervd, I will be in Switzerland in mid-june.....and I am going on a Monday....
I do not mind leaving early morning and doing the complete tour..!!

I do not understand why I need to spend 5 hrs at Ballenberg?? or the earliest dp is @ 14:07 only?
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Old Apr 20th, 2013, 09:47 AM
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Ballenberg: I sent you the link to the complete timetables of
Lake Brienz boats
Brienzer Rothorn railay
Ballenberg bus
(see above). You can leave Ballenberg every hour from 10.07 until 21.07.
The area is open from 9am until 6pm, the more than 100 houses (in 13 groups) from 10am until 5pm
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Old Apr 20th, 2013, 04:39 PM
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bookmarking for our upcoming trip-thanks!
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Old Apr 21st, 2013, 03:37 AM
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hi I really dont understand the way around in brienz....

this is what I understood and planned....I read that the earliest boat ride is at 11:15am

leave interlaken ost for brienz...
catch boat to-n-fro giessbach falls...(where can I find time table?) price is CFH 39pp
catch brienzer rothorn railway...price is CHF 84pp return trip
now ballenberg museum if I have enough time....price is CHF 22pp
Walk along Brunngasse and return to Interlaken....

please let me know if I am getting it wrong?!
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Old Apr 21st, 2013, 03:42 AM
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Also if I happen to buy the boat ticket,,,,can i hop on/off anywhere it stops?
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Well if doing all that it is a no-brainer IMO to buy a Swiss Pass - the $20 entry fee at Ballenberg is also covered and all boat and train travel - 50% off on the steam train to the mountain top - plus all your other travels - the Swiss Pass for you is yes a great deal - just flash it and hop on the boat and off and on... the cost of the day out on Lake Brienz all told that is covered by the pass would be probably $100 alone - figuring museum fee pass covers, boat, train even the funicular from Geissbach boat dockto Geisbach Hotel/Falls is covered.
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Old Apr 21st, 2013, 08:17 AM
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Palen is right. Check the Swiss Flexi Pass, the Swiss Pass and the Berner Oberland Pass and decide which one is the best for you. Your decision may depend on the fare you got for your Milan - Spiez ticket and for your Zurich - Paris ticket as well as on your decision to visit Jungfraujoch or not.

As to the timetables, I can only repeat that I sent you everything 24 hrs ago. If you read them, you will have no more questions.
BTW: there is no boat leaving any Lake Brienz pier at 11.15.
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Old Apr 21st, 2013, 08:53 AM
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hi, does getting a swiss pass has advantage on buying Milan-Spiez ticket & Zurich-Paris ticket?
yes, i definitely want to do jungfrau....(i read that there is a advantage of 25% or 50% off with passes on jungfaru)

below are my travel connected to Swiss cities

Milan - Spiez (day 1)
Spiez - Interlaken (day 1)
Interlaken - Junfrau (to-n-fro) (day 2)
Interlaken - Brienz (day 3)
Boat ride @ Brienz (day 3)
Ballenberg Museum (day 3)
Breinzer Rhotorn Cog Way (day 3)
Interlaken to Lucerne (day 4)
Lake Lucerne Boat Ride (day 4)
Mt. Pilatus Trip (day 5)
Lucerne to Zurich (day 6)
Zurich to Rhine Falls (day 6)
Zurich - Paris (day 7)

Which pass is the best for these exursions?
Swiss Flexi Pass - is for travel on non-consecutive days. btw for 4 days it is CHF 891.00 for 4 of us.
So Day 1-3-5-7 are only valid? Am I right?

Also, where can I find whole day time tables for brienz boat transfers?
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Old Apr 22nd, 2013, 01:31 AM
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"Also, where can I find whole day time tables for brienz boat transfers?"
I sent them to you 41 hrs ago and I told you that again 17 hrs ago. All you must do is to have a look at them.

"Which pass is the best for these exursions?"
I told you yesterday that your decision may depend on the fare you got for your Milan - Spiez ticket and for your Zurich - Paris ticket. I don't know which tariff you got (GA, smart, smart1, Piccolo, Loisir, Loisir reduit, etc) Check then the passes for the Swiss legs (Swiss Pass, Swiss Flexipass, Bernese Oberland Pass, Swiss Half Fare Card or similar)and buy the the most apropriate one.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2013, 04:45 AM
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don't forget the Jungfrau Bahn Pass valid on the really expensive Jungfraujoch train and the Schilthorn cable way and many more - not as wide-ranging as Berner Oberland but could be the best for some plans - with a Swiss Pass you get a discount on either the Berner Oberland Pass or Jungfrau Bahn Pass I believe.
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Old Apr 22nd, 2013, 12:21 PM
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http://www.jungfrau.ch/en/tourism/tr...al-travellers/

this give you the price of various rail lines covered by the Jungfrau Bahn Pass - a Swiss Pass covers many or gives 50% off (25% Kliene Scheidegg to Jungfraujoch summit and back).

You can see how really expensive mountain railways can be - get some kind of pass for what you are planning!
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Old Apr 27th, 2013, 10:28 AM
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Hi I am thinking of taking the 8 day swiss saver pass...even though I will be technically using it for 6 days....

do I need to booj junfrau and mt. pilatus trips in advance???

Also, what is the best way to visit rhine falls....I was initially thinking of taking the train from zurich....but I also got a suggestion of a 3-4 hr tour via tour
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Old Apr 28th, 2013, 01:25 AM
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Rhine Falls: if you stay at Zurich, take the train from Zurich: every 30 min. If you want to combine Rhine Falls with the visit of the medieval city center of Schaffhausen and the Munot castle, it's easy to do so, as it is easy to go by Rhine river boat from Schaffhausen to Stein am Rhein and Lake Constance.
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Old Apr 28th, 2013, 03:51 AM
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do I need to booj junfrau and mt. pilatus trips in advance???>

No you cannot even make reservations on those two things IME - I've always just shown up and got seats - anyway I do not think you can reserve and nothing to worry about.
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Old Apr 28th, 2013, 12:00 PM
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It seems that Jungfraubahn finally capitulated vis a vis the pressure of people from overseas and offers now the possibility to book seats
http://shop.jungfrau.ch/en/bergbahn?___from_store=de
But as Palen told you, there is no need to do so.
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Old Apr 29th, 2013, 05:38 AM
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thanks for the update neckervd!
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